Odd Alliance vs Annoying Silence Rebuttal
I see that youve changed your initial post of how horrible my team would work to how great theyd work.
My concern here is that as of my posting my write up the ORIGINAL was what you had posted, and then suddenly when you posted your write up the NOW was included. This makes me question weather or not you had a gameplan in mind with my disgrunted team that you changed after reading my write up. Honestly, going with your original write up would have hurt you greatly and I was anticipating reading your write up so I could debate it, but now I see its changed after initially posted in your first post. Not to mention your one write up also now has two other posts following it that details a little on it, which I dont think is allowed either.
This is why you NEED to stop posting crap before its ready and do it in Microsoft Word or Notepad or something. Its getting stupid. This has been the rule since day one and I know I personally have called you out on it two times now, and Wiegeabos stated it in general before now. Rules are rules, follow them. They keep it clean so that theres little room to question if someones cheating or not, and in this situation Im not sure you arent. It takes the fun out of it for the rest of us.
Now on to the actual debate
Again, same as last week... this goes against every bit of each of their characters, especially X-Man's. It doesn't matter if it's a competition or a good will concert to cure aids... Nate will not work or strategize with Stryfe at all. Stryfe is a psychopath on par with Apocalypse. Yes, Stryfe hates and wants to kill Apocalypse, but he's just as bad himself and always has been. Nate hates anyone like that, and being that he knows Stryfe, knows how he is, knows all that... he will not work with Stryfe. And yeah, Stryfe's main beef was with his family, but he killed millions in his future that he had no beef with, and if he learns that Nate is still an extention of his family, and also has a relationship with Scott and Jean, well that would make him just as good as Cable to Stryfe. It just WON'T happen in the slightest, and there's a 99% chance that they'd be at each other yet again this match. I gave them the benefit of the doubt for the sake of getting some type of write up done fairly, but to be honest, and this isn't even just me trying to get votes, I think having them both together on your team is 1) redundant, and 2) suicide every week. They would kill each other over anyone else week in and week out.
My problem with this is that you have Nightcrawler and Multiple Man on your team, but you do squat with them. You basically kill them off at the beginning of every week that they're in because they're only fodder for Mountjoy. It's the same strategy over and over again. Not that there's anything wrong with the strategy, but with someone as versatile as Mountjoy... I'd suggest a bit more creativity.
My issue here is that yes, Stryfe can carry them in bubbles and keep the water out, but he cant create air within them. For as much as they are doing here, theyd suffocate fairly quickly. Not to mention itd take a lot of concentration for Stryfe to create bubbles for not only the Annoying Silence team but also for all the Mountjoy multiples, not to mention those being created throughout the battle.
On the other side of action, at the bottom of the ocean, its too risky for blink to teleport anywhere(with very limited areas in which she could teleport(having the threat of teleporting into the sea around her, instantly killing her or anyone else)).
This is honestly something I havent thought about but Im fairly certain people typically teleport into water without problem because it isnt solid, like rock or structures. I have no proof though, so voters take it for what it is.
This would do nothing for Vulcan. He can use energy to blast a hole out like an explosion and fire out like hes flying through space. Not to mention he can just feel the gravity of the area and figure out that if he has to climb or fly a certain direction, then thats up. This would honestly be a thirty second delay at best. And yeah, the water would come in, but he has energy to propel him and he doesnt need to breath, as hes gone weeks through space without breathing. Not a problem, and of course, with Vulcan free to battle, just about everything that follows this point is altered dramatically for ASs bad.
This wouldnt work either. He gave Hulk the armor to enhance his strength, and this would work for Mountjoy as well, but it does nothing for making him teleport into water. If theres anything about teleporting into water that could hurt someone its that persons molecules merging with the hydrogen and oxygen of the water (which I dont think would happen). Even with the armor, if you say the water would kill someone, this would still take place even for Mountjoy. Even with the armor, Nightcrawlers powers are useless and theres still just a lot of Mountjoys floating around with no propulsion to depend on.
Again, X-Man and Stryfe working together is impossible
wont happen, and likely theyd be at each others throats. But to put blinders on belief and assuming theyd do this
this is a very weak way to take out an uber. Weak Weak Weak Weak Weak!
I honestly dismissed the preasure being that Marvel characters are always visiting Atlantis in suits without worrying about the preasure thatd likely be there. Id assume the same goes for the write up. But if you want to focus on that, then what the heck is your team doing for preasure? All the Mountjoys fighting? Are they all protected by Stryfe? Is his concentration enough to protected Mountjoys (and focus and follow them so they dont leave the bubble), mentally search out Domina, and protect himself? I dont see this happening.
I dont see how the basalisk field would do anything here, as Magneto acts at the spead of thought and doesnt need movement. Slowing him down wont do anything and likely hed grab the metal of Mountjoys blood and have his way with him. And again, Mountjoy wont be able to teleport underwater (according to your write up
I think they can in mine, but were debating yours here), so this whole strategy goes to crap.
Ill skip a bit here and go to the end
He wouldnt need to shut off their powers, just blow the crap out of them. Multiple Man can multiply with force, but if hes fried to a corpse in a blast (and Vulcan does this a lot), he wont multiply, and once Multiple Mans prime self is defeated the rest disappear, and with a wave of energy killing them, it wouldnt be long before Mountjoys a husk and the dupes disappear. I literally see it taking maybe twenty seconds, and only that long due to the teleportation
if it can even happen.
Anyhow, Ive detailed picky things, but theres one huge thing that bugs me here. I have a team led by Magneto
one of the most militant strategic minds in Marvel Comics
. And yet not in a single moment of your write up is there a shred of strategy for the Odd Alliance, and not only that, but never once does a single member of the team even DEFEND THEMSEVLES!!! No attack, no defense, NOTHING! They just stand there and take whats coming to them like newbs. In fact, the only offensive or defensive move used was by Vulcan in the end and only because it multiplies Madrox, thus, hurting them more. Magneto just holds up a bubble. Blink and Proctor sit in the bubble. Vulcan hides in a hole. Domina goes nighty night. And thats it. Horrible and unbelievable treatment of the Odd Alliance.
Of course, all this dealt by a team led by enemies Stryfe and X-Man working together in unison to make it all happen.
I rest my case.
Winner Odd Alliance
