Guardians of the Galaxy Early Guardians of the Galaxy Box Office Prediction Thread

[DarthSkywalker]

Okay so name some separate franchises with intersecting stories, characters or details.

Yes, some of the solo movies have self contained stories but often they have details and characters that appear or impact other MCU films.

Seperate franchises don't share the same characters or story arc.

We get Loki's origin in Thor, his failed attempt to conquer Earth in Avengers and Loki's release from prison in Thor 2.

In Cap 1 we get the origin of SHIELD, Captain Americs, and the tesseract. In Avengers we get a modern update of all three. In Cap 2 we see the fall of SHIELD.

Iron Man 2 introduces major SHIELD characters, Avengers shows SHIELD help organize the superhero team, Iron Man 3 shows Tony Stark shell shocked from the events of Avengers.

Black Widow has appeared in Iron Man solo movies and Captain America solo movies. Nick Fury has appeared in Iron Man solo movies and the Agent of SHIELD tv show.

Thanos will like play a bigger role in solo movies moving closer to Avengers 3 as a mastermind behind the scenes.

These characters are connected, they share the same continuity, they visit each other's movies and their smaller stories are part of a larger picture.

Separate franchises do none of those things.

Then you tell me all the franchises that have films that aren't all under the same name? You know, like Star Wars or Harry Potter?

It is Iron Man, Iron Man 2, Iron Man 3. Not Marvel's Avengers Episode I: Iron Man. It is Captain America: The Winter Soldier. So on and so forth. The subtitle comes after the franchise name, which belongs to each individual character. They are not called spin offs, they are called solo films for a reason.

Look at the Guardians of the Galaxy trailers. It is from the studio that brought you, "Iron Man, Captain America, Thor, and The Avengers". You notice how they separate them? Because they are different franchises.

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

Okay so name some separate franchises with intersecting stories, characters or details.

Question Tarrantino movies. Share the same universe, the same continuity but are individual franchises.

Pixar movies have their characters show up in other movies as Easter eggs. They could exist in the same same continuity. But A Bugs Life isn't the same franchise as Toy Story

Yes, some of the solo movies have self contained stories but often they have details and characters that appear or impact other MCU films.

These characters are connected, they share the same continuity, they visit each other's movies and their smaller stories are part of a larger picture.

Separate franchises do none of those things.

You're confusing continuity with franchise

A movie franchise is a series of movies focusing the same characters or concept. So iron Man 1, 2 and 3 is the iron man franchise. You don't get a continuation of his story in a Thor movie as that's the Thor franchise

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Question Tarrantino movies. Share the same universe, the same continuity but are individual franchises.

Pixar movies have their characters show up in other movies as Easter eggs. They could exist in the same same continuity. But A Bugs Life isn't the same franchise as Toy Story



You're confusing continuity with franchise

A movie franchise is a series of movies focusing the same characters or concept. So iron Man 1, 2 and 3 is the iron man franchise. You don't get a continuation of his story in a Thor movie as that's the Thor franchise

 

[The Endless]

But you get the continuation of Thor's story, along with Iron Mans and Caps in Avengers.

It's pretty complicated really.

You can't compare it to Tarantino's films i don't think. They aren't continuous stories. They just have references to characters. Vic Vega being brothers with Vince etc. Then they have same actors appearing in different roles. Like Jackon's characters in Pulp Fiction and Jackie Brown and Django.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Since I didn't want to derail this thread I made a separate thread about MCU being a single franchise.

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=483961

 

[marcvader]

Since I didn't want to derail this thread I made a separate thread about MCU being a single franchise.

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=483961

No, they are still part of the same thread since they re both talking about the MCU being a single franchise.

 

[combocaz]

I think its gonna do 360m worldwide.

The Turtles are gonna own August.

 

[The Endless]

lol not at all. Even when the Turtles were at the very tip top of pop culture they didn't break out at the cinema.

Superheroes and Marvel in particular are as of this moment, the pop culture event at the cinema. There is no way a Turtles movie owns Guardians. Especially when it will inevitably be trashed by all and sundry.

Although it does seem they have got the Turtles themselves right, i can't imagine the film itself being any good.

 

[marcvader]

I think its gonna do 360m worldwide.

The Turtles are gonna own August.

Lol. Take this weak attempt back to troll school.

 

[fixxxer]

This franchise/non-franchise discussion is the most semantic of arguments I've seen in quite some time. Does it matter if it's officially designated as "franchise" or not? The MCU (movies, TV, Netflix and whatever else may follow) is in the same continuity and is literally unprecedented at this scale. I could care less whether it is "considered" a franchise or not.

And on another note... are we looking good for $80 mill?

 

[The Endless]

I'd say 70 mill is a certainty and is record breaking. Anything above that is a bonus.

 

[Raiden]

I think its gonna do 360m worldwide.

The Turtles are gonna own August.

The tracking for TMNT's OW says otherwise.

 

[Joeyjojo72]

Trollin' trollin' trollin' ...

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I think its gonna do 360m worldwide.

The Turtles are gonna own August.

Thank you for giving "DC fans" a bad name.

The tracking for TMNT's OW says otherwise.

What is it looking like? Does GotG have a chance at 2 weeks at #1?

 

[Adversary]

Question Tarrantino movies. Share the same universe, the same continuity but are individual franchises.

Pixar movies have their characters show up in other movies as Easter eggs. They could exist in the same same continuity. But A Bugs Life isn't the same franchise as Toy Story

All the MCU films can be considered one franchise, with each film like a sequel to the previous one. The Tarantino "universe" is circumstantial and generally just a nod to his other films. Same goes for Pixar.

 

[Wrath]

Thank you for giving "DC fans" a bad name.


What is it looking like? Does GotG have a chance at 2 weeks at #1?

"Chance"? Yes. Week 1 is a given.

Week 2 is probably a little worse than 50/50. TMNT needs to open at expectations or a little worse and GotG needs a strong hold. Both are possible, even probable on their own, but getting both is not a slam dunk at all.

 

[Tymminator]

I'd call it the first true mega-franchise, or ultra-franchise, or whatever prefix one wants to attach to it. Basically a franchise....composed of smaller franchises.

I use the term Mega franchise myself and seen it referred to as such by others in interviews. Mega franchises are a thing other studios are going to try to do as they now see the potential after Avengers (Sony and Fox are trying for example. Although IMO Fox has a better chance with the X-characters where Sinister Six will not really expand things like they thought for the Spidey-verse, again IMO).

 

[DarthSkywalker]

"Chance"? Yes. Week 1 is a given.

Week 2 is probably a little worse than 50/50. TMNT needs to open at expectations or a little worse and GotG needs a strong hold. Both are possible, even probable on their own, but getting both is not a slam dunk at all.

Would it be too much trouble to ask what TMNT tracking at right now? I can't seem to find it.

 

[Ghostcrow13]

Would it be too much trouble to ask what TMNT tracking at right now? I can't seem to find it.

On boxoffice.com it has it at $39 mill, and Guardians at $75 mill, not entirely sure how accurate the website usually is though. I've also seen $37 mill for TMNT so it seems to be around that ballpark

 

[kedrell]

I use the term Mega franchise myself and seen it referred to as such by others in interviews. Mega franchises are a thing other studios are going to try to do as they now see the potential after Avengers (Sony and Fox are trying for example. Although IMO Fox has a better chance with the X-characters where Sinister Six will not really expand things like they thought for the Spidey-verse, again IMO).

Yes, as well as DC. And even non-superhero/comic book film series are trying to do it now. That's the whole plan behind Disney's new Star Wars movies.

 

[Tymminator]

Yes, as well as DC. And even non-superhero/comic book film series are trying to do it now. That's the whole plan behind Disney's new Star Wars movies.

Yeah I meant to add WB/DC but n haste missed it. Disney having the MCU AND Star Wars is a freaking huge deal.

 

[8ulk]

The Only chance for GoTG to dominate for 2 weeks is to open at 85-95 mil and have a 48-52% drop cause TMNT is tracking for 39 mil right now and im sure it can beat Lucy which opened at 43 mil.

If it cant beat Lucy then there is something wrong with the audience and they should look it up. see a doctor or something.

a 45 mil opening is definately a chance for TMNT so GoTG will have to overperform to beat it... But who cares anyway ? not getting 1st spot for 2 weeks is irrelevant.

GoTG will be HUGE. 600-700 mil WW is a safe bet. no way its doing less than 550 mil btw. Tracking/hype/social media buzz/reviews etc make that an impossibility.

550 mil is a guarentee.

 

[kedrell]

I'd say if it tops $80M then it has a better than 50/50 shot at staying #1 in it's 2nd weekend. With a 50% drop or so and TMNT opening in the middle to high $30M's at best....yeah, that's very plausible. It would have to be toward the high end of expectations for TMNT to beat Lucy.

 

[smashmode]

So what is the floor on this thing, Do people feel that the floor is the 'projected' Weekend Box office put out by a few? (65-66 million)

 

[SuperBatman]

Under 60 Disapointment
Over 60-70 About what's Expected
70-80 Cool
80-Over- AWESOME.