Comics Edwin Brock?? (ASM 532 Spoilers)

[bholliday]

Its Edwin I believe, because in Millar's run on Marvel Knights Spider-man he concluded Eddie was short for Edwin, and it was written like this or something along those lines

Seems like MK:SM is completely in continuity

 

[JackSkellington]

Its Edwin I believe, because in Millar's run on Marvel Knights Spider-man he concluded Eddie was short for Edwin, and it was written like this or something along those lines

Seems like MK:SM is completely in continuity

Oh god! Please don't give me another reason to hate that damn arc!

Personally I don't remember him ever saying Eddie was/is short for Edwin,it's always been short for Edward as far as I've known.

 

[Citizen_Kaine]

Oh god! Please don't give me another reason to hate that damn arc!

Personally I don't remember him ever saying Eddie was/is short for Edwin,it's always been short for Edward as far as I've known.

It has always been Edward, even his own father called his that

**** it, I'm gonna just pretend that the hospital screwed up... yes, it was the hospital and the police.... marvel's editorial department isn't completley useless... its just the people working in the hospital...

*starts whistling and twiddling thumbs*

 

[Hobgoblin]

I just assumed it was a hospital error, too.


I was more confused that Norman Osborn was somehow in jail. He has been on the loose since the end of MKSM #12. Then again, Jenkins wrote this arc, and we all know how good he is at continuity. (See: Spectacular Spider-Man vol 2)

 

[Citizen_Kaine]

I just assumed it was a hospital error, too.


I was more confused that Norman Osborn was somehow in jail. He has been on the loose since the end of MKSM #12. Then again, Jenkins wrote this arc, and we all know how good he is at continuity. (See: Spectacular Spider-Man vol 2)

That was a very cool scene though, I miss the Osborn corn rows though

 

[JackSkellington]

It has always been Edward, even his own father called his that

**** it, I'm gonna just pretend that the hospital screwed up... yes, it was the hospital and the police.... marvel's editorial department isn't completley useless... its just the people working in the hospital...

*starts whistling and twiddling thumbs*

I like your way of thinking. I'm gonna go with the belief that when Eddie was 1st brought into hospital, he was so weak & tired that he couldn't give out his full name to the hospital staff...

Nurse 1: What's his name?
Nurse 2: What's your name, son?
Eddie: Ed...Edw..Edw......Brock.

Actually, you know what...f**k it. Marvel screwed up!

 

[Hobgoblin]

That was a very cool scene though, I miss the Osborn corn rows though

Oh right, plus there was the missing cornrows! grrrrrrr.......

 

[stillanerd]

The first point was JRJr's mistake, or artistic interpretation, and he's admitted that. When I saw it, I thought it was a mistake, too, but when you really look at it, there's more to the image than just the spider bite. There's some symbolism there. The last asterisk could also be explained as an artist's error, although I don't know for sure. So not all of this is necessarily JMS's fault. I don't excuse him for other things, but he's not the only one at Marvel that's sloppy. The editors are total crap, too.

Okay, thanks for clarifying the first point. The last point, however, not only happened when John Romita Jr. was on the book but also in the notorious Sins Past, which was illustrated by Mike Dedato Jr. That tells me that clearly the "revisionist history" of having Gwen Stacy fully conscious and thrown off the bridge by the Green Goblin as opposed to being unconscious and knocked off by the Goblin glider is all JMS, quite possibly in an attempt to underscore that Spidey's webbing was what snapped Gwen's neck, even though readers got that point already in ASM #121 (which is a moot point anyway because--according JMS' version of events--the Green Goblin wanted to kill Gwen because she refused to let him have access to their kids moreso than him striking a pyschological blow on Spider-Man for going after his girlfriend, thus absolving Peter of some of the guilt that Gwen died because he was Spider-Man).

As for the editors being crap...ditto.

 

[E.Brock]

Basically, a part of the issue shows Eddie in a hospital bed being told the news that Pete has taken off the mask. Its good to new Eddie's still alive and kicking, but they got his name wrong. Its Edward Brock Jr.

Seems odd, I mean aren't editors supposed to fix stuff like this? What exactly do editors do? I'm still perplexed on this.

Its a small nitpick.

sorry man but its not edward brock jr.

its just Edward Brock....hes a junior in the ultimate universe but in the 616 universe is dad's name was Carl.......Full name.... Edward Allen Brock

 

[Dope Nose]

 

[Captivated]

I can see it now... the harried artist, on a deadline, didn't leave enough room for EDWARD and shortened the name... or may-be they thought it looked better... and thinking no one would know the difference...

Don't laugh... I'm an Art Director/Artist... these things happen.

 

[Webz14]

Seems like something pretty easy to pick up on. Editors don't really do much these days, with the bans on footnotes, and having to avoid stepping on creators toes

they BANNED footnotes?! What?!

 

[Citizen_Kaine]

they BANNED footnotes?! What?!

Long time ago dude, along with Quesada's 'famous' "Dead means dead" rule (Guess we're supposed to ignore, Colossus, Hawkeye, Pyslocke, etc.....) footnotes, ie. mentioning of past events in little blurbs, we're effectivly removed from all books, to keep people from buying off the direct market (Ie. back issue bins, ebay) which produces no cash for Marvel.

However I've heard from those that read She Hulk, that a few of them have been appearing recently

 

[Webz14]

Long time ago dude, along with Quesada's 'famous' "Dead means dead" rule (Guess we're supposed to ignore, Colossus, Hawkeye, Pyslocke, etc.....) footnotes, ie. mentioning of past events in little blurbs, we're effectivly removed from all books, to keep people from buying off the direct market (Ie. back issue bins, ebay) which produces no cash for Marvel.

However I've heard from those that read She Hulk, that a few of them have been appearing recently

What the heck...thats crazy! i know they have been in she-hulk recently (yes!), but i always supposed that none of the other editors wanted the trouble of searching back issues. I hate reading a comic that brings back an old theme and then having to go through my archives to find out when that happen. (why do they even have editors?!).

As for the "dead means dead"... thats bull.

Quesada, time to do some rethinking, bub.

 

[giggs11uk]

anyone think they (marvel) will give brock the venom suit as a life support type thing to coincide with the movie (if they go with that storyline)

 

[Thirteen Shadows]

anyone think they (marvel) will give brock the venom suit as a life support type thing to coincide with the movie (if they go with that storyline)

Hopefully, I dislike Mac Gargan as Venom greatly.

 

[Dangerous]

Are you joking... or are YOU that stupid?

I was trying to be helpful. You newbs are sooo thread happy.

Dude, it's amusing that you should call Pokershirt a newb when you yourself could be considered a newb here by many peoples standards since your gateway to Spidey comics was via the films from 2002 onwards.

…The poster 'savemarvel' for example-, I'm pretty sure he stated somewhere that he had been reading Marvel for 30 plus years, yet he only registered to the Hype recently.
Does this make him a newb when compared to someone who has been reading Spidey say, 4 years and who has also been registered to the Hype as long?

No sir, the newb would definitely be 4 year fan.

 

[Dangerous]

Okay, thanks for clarifying the first point. The last point, however, not only happened when John Romita Jr. was on the book but also in the notorious Sins Past, which was illustrated by Mike Dedato Jr. That tells me that clearly the "revisionist history" of having Gwen Stacy fully conscious and thrown off the bridge by the Green Goblin as opposed to being unconscious and knocked off by the Goblin glider is all JMS, quite possibly in an attempt to underscore that Spidey's webbing was what snapped Gwen's neck, even though readers got that point already in ASM #121 (which is a moot point anyway because--according JMS' version of events--the Green Goblin wanted to kill Gwen because she refused to let him have access to their kids moreso than him striking a pyschological blow on Spider-Man for going after his girlfriend, thus absolving Peter of some of the guilt that Gwen died because he was Spider-Man).

As for the editors being crap...ditto.

Exactly, its not like JMS is actually very acurate in recalling past events in factual detail to often.

 

[Dangerous]

Hopefully, I dislike Mac Gargan as Venom greatly.

Interesting to note that Gargan/Venom is on the cover of Civil War #5.
Marvel are obviously going to give him a good final run in Civial War and Beyond, before he hits the showers.

 

[Thirteen Shadows]

Interesting to note that Gargan/Venom is on the cover of Civil War #5.
Marvel are obviously going to give him a good final run in Civial War and Beyond, before he hits the showers.

Are you saying that there getting the suit off Gargan but on a high note?

Or do you just want me to feel worse?

 

[Dangerous]

As far as I can see the situation will suit both sets of Venom fans (Fans of Brock/Venom and fans of Gargan as Venom).

Brock appearing in ASM and the fact that he will be in SM3 next year means that sooner or later (before May) he will become Venom again, and for fans of Venom/Gargan (including myself) VenomIII will be appearing in at least two more big arcs before they retire him as Venom.
Civil War and Beyond which starts this month.

 

[Thirteen Shadows]

As far as I can see the situation will suit both sets of Venom fans (Fans of Brock/Venom and fans of Gargan as Venom).

Brock appearing in ASM and the fact that he will be in SM3 next year means that sooner or later (before May) he will become Venom again, and for fans of Venom/Gargan (including myself) VenomIII will be appearing in at least two more big arcs before they retire him as Venom.
Civil War and Beyond which starts this month.

Oh, ok I see what your saying. Fans of either will both eventually be happy. That's cool.

I don't really mind Gargan as Venom that much but I just prefer the original Venom.

 

[Dangerous]

I prefere VenomIII compared to what Eddie was like as Venom in the last 10 years of comics. Overall though I like Venom pre-ASM#347 best.

 

[Thirteen Shadows]

I prefere VenomIII compared to what Eddie was like as Venom in the last 10 years of comics. Overall though I like Venom pre-ASM#347 best.

Yeah I prefer the original Venom I don't like the 20 foot tall, gigantic underjaw, and green drool.

 

[Captivated]

Dude, it's amusing that you should call Pokershirt a newb when you yourself could be considered a newb here by many peoples standards since your gateway to Spidey comics was via the films from 2002 onwards.

…The poster 'savemarvel' for example-, I'm pretty sure he stated somewhere that he had been reading Marvel for 30 plus years, yet he only registered to the Hype recently.
Does this make him a newb when compared to someone who has been reading Spidey say, 4 years and who has also been registered to the Hype as long?

No sir, the newb would definitely be 4 year fan.

You want to nitpick this? Alright, I'll be accommodating. Little education lesson... the term "newbie" most commonly refers to someone who is unfamilar with internet, or board "netiquette". Creating threads that are mistitled (it was in ASM#533, not #532), on a topic that already has a thread (on page one, they didn't even have to search for it) is a classic newbe move... that and the fact that one has been a member of the BOARD less than a month, and the other hardly ever posts.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...e:Newbie&sa=X&oi=glossary_definition&ct=title

By definition and in this context, the term has nothing to do with how long you have been reading Spider-Man comics. But thanks for the attempted put down.

FYI - A Spider-Man "newbie" would be someone who has little knowledge of the character. I have news for you DUDE, you don't have to read Spider-Man for 30 years to GET the character. I've not just been reading Spider-Man comics for 2 years, I've been STUDYING the character. Not only have I read EVERY issue of Amazing Spider-Man, I'm well on my way through the other core titles, as well as reading the many Spider-Man novels, commentaries, and biographies on the company, writers and artists etc...

But again, that has nothing to do with my original comment that you tried to spin into something it wasn't.