Bullsear said:
I really enjoyed this movie while I was in the theater. It was fun to watch and cool to see some of my favorite X-characters back on the screen. X-3 was an entertaining film, but what it was not, was a quality film.
The things that make a good movie (content, character development, engaging screenplay, good story telling, etc) were sadly absent from this film.
The movie was bad. That doesn't mean I didn't enjoy it. That doesn't mean it's not okay to watch.
you are right on many levals, what makes a good movie, X3 was entertaining etc.
but i think you are sorely mistaken if you don't think this was a quality movie
i have never been one to like poor movies even if they are entertaining (Bad Boys, and Bad Boys 2 are two of my most hated movies of all time)
this is not a Bad Boys 2
lets address the four areas you say make a good movie
First and foremost the character development that everyone is hatting on-
for many of the characters that alot of people have been saying need more development, there development as come through all 3 movies, the most obvious one, is the lack of Rouge
Rouge in X3 all we see is this girl who is unable to touch people with her skin, and probobly will have to go her whole life without human contact, she sees that they have a cure for mutancy, her eyes light up...later in the movie she sees her boyfriend hugging on some other chick, and the last we see of her (basically) is of her walking off a bus into the cure station
many people say that is an underdeveloped character, but if you have been paying attention to Kingberg and Penn, her development, her character, is developed throughout all three movies, from frame 1 of the franchise when she absorbs the guy by kissing him, to one of the final frames of the trilogy where she can finally touch her boyfriends hand
Storytelling and Screenplay are basically the same thing, Screenplay just deals with dialouge and this movies wasn't as bad as i thought it would be coming from the "your shooting is as bad as your cooking" guy
but the story...i thought the story was excellent, it yeilded enough out of it to introduce/ expand upon some characters that hadn't had terrible amounts of screen time so far (Bobby and Pyro confrontation different sides of the same argument, then also Angel was able to be introduced, and Beast of course) and also it was able to chop up the screen time where need be (Magneto and Jean, Wolverine, and Storm being the main characters, Xavier did his customary 1/2 of the movie, then spending the other half knocked out or dead like in all 3)
my only complaints with the story was there wasn't enough Pheonix i think to justify the story, but by no means do i think they are done with her
Acting-fine acting was done by ever cast member Ian Mckellen i feel should have been up for an Academy Award for ever incarnation of Magneto he has done, just brilliant.
there was not one weak actor in the entire movie, vinnie jones had the worst role, a hell hole for any actor to try and work out of but he delivered his lines, and sold them and for the most part made the dumbass work
i thought James Marsden was incredible in his 6 minutes of screen time or whatever, Halley Berry followed up on the studios doing good on giving her more to do, i think her and Wolverine have really good chemistry and it would behoove Fox not to keep those two working in scenes together
Famke, Kelsey Grammer, Aaron Standford, Ellen Page (is that who played shadowcat i think) and Shawn Ashmore where all really good and even the bit roles of Multiple Man, Colossus, Calisto, Dr. Chilton (from silence of the lambs) and trask where good
so this is all opinionated and that is really all that ever justifies a good movie, so to me, what i just listed made it a good movie, but if you choose not to see it that way, go for it
but i would never like or be entertained by a movie i did not tink was of good qaulity, so i just don't understand what line you guys are drawing in that says "well i think this movie sucks, but it was entertianing so i think it was worth my 10 dollars"
i would be asking for my money back if i didn't think it was good, why waste your time...unless of course you want to sound like a legit squire and are saying a movie you really like and thought was good was bad so you can build your street cred
whatever it is, i am a firm believer of Entertianment = Quality, because i am entertained by Quality films like Finding Neverland, Pirates of the Carribean, Pulp Fiction, Boondocks Saints, and Shawshank Redemption, and i completly despise movies like Batman(not begins, begins rules but the rest of them) Termintator 3, Big Mommas House, and the league of extrodanary gentlemen...and i liked X3