Episode #10-1: "Lazarus"

[avidreader]

Well, since Clark was at the intermediate zone between life and death, as was Lex if that was him running around, then I'd say the real Lex is half dead somewhere waiting to be revived; at least that's how I interpret it from the episode.

My son pointed out that exact same thing... no one else other than Lex and Clark were seen in that zone, which would suggest that Lex too is somewhere between life and death.

Think I got it. Maybe this has been said before, if so I missed it....but I think Tess is going to be Lex's sister. It would make sense why he gave her the company, something very uncharacteristic of Lex. It would also explain why a tissue sample from one of his clones would work in healing her. As brother and sister they would have the same DNA. Discuss......

The moment I first saw Cassidy, I noticed some Luthor family resemblance, the red hair being the most obvious of all.

And Jor-el is still a *****e bag.

 

[Ol'Canucklehead]

My son pointed out that exact same thing... no one else other than Lex and Clark were seen in that zone, which would suggest that Lex too is somewhere between life and death.



The moment I first saw Cassidy, I noticed some Luthor family resemblance, the red hair being the most obvious of all.

And Jor-el is still a *****e bag.

Agreed on all 3 t:

 

[Ultraman Nexus]

The shows handling of Jor-El has never been one of my favorite aspects of the thing. I think having Jor-El be not only a *****e but this oddly all powerful disembodied voice of a *****e who rags on Clark for not being a hero while also being willing to throw human lives under a bus just to get his son to do something is not only incongruous with the mythos, it's just f'n dumb.

Even in Post Crisis while there might have been some desire from Lara to "shape him to proper Kryptonian ways" Jor-El still cared about his son and only wanted him to have some knowledge of his history and his people.

At the same time though, Post Crisis did get a lot of dramatic mileage out of having Superman constantly needing to assert or reclaim his humanity from forces seeking to control or change him. So I guess they kinda beerslammed Jor-El with the Eradicator.

 

[DaJanksta]

So if they can heal Tess can they Heal the original Lex Luthor?

 

[SpideyVille]

It sounds like that was the plan.

Now I'm wondering, if the clones were meant to heal Lex, wouldn't that mean that whoever took over the project would know where Lex's body was? I mean I doubt they were going to just dig up his grave when they thought the clones were ready. But then again, if Lex is dead and burnt and stuff from the explosion, would they still be able to heal him?

 

[blksuperman2]

I'm thinking that there's far more going on than Older Clone Lex was letting on. The wording he used when talking to Clark was that Lex was the creator but he destroys the "failed" clones stating that there can only be 1 Lex. That gives me the impression that he (older Clone) knows that Lex is still alive and lied to Clark about him dieing in that explosion. Who knows, this is just a theory.

 

[Webhead2006]

well yea they could be saying lex is dead, but if he is just staying hidden and forming a new life in secret maybe he is buying his time to strike again to he games power and money and all that. i could still see them end up saying truck lex was a clone and the real one didnt die. But its all dependent on getting michael back and all that.

As for sv i do enjoy their lighting/filters they use color well. Way better then the crap singer did with his film. his filters sucked and the film was way to muted. Same with the costume. Even though they are using the sr suit AS A PROP right now, at least it looks better color wise with smallville's filters then it did in SR. As for the cape yea it doent look like the leather/plastic looking crap it was for SR. They could have likely used the warrior angel cape or a different fabric to make it look a little better. I still hope what ever tom wears isnt just the SR suit modified to fit tom's body.

As for the whole tess deal, i serioudly doubt they will make her be a female clone of lex, a clone of his mother, or some unknown sibling. Why is some folks over looking the more easier answer i say. IS that the real tess did die in the finale, and granny goodness is using cadmus labs for her agenda on earth. She took tess's dead body and used her dna there and using the tech in the lab recreated tess or just healed her what ever you want. So she could use her for her plans.

 

[SpideyVille]

I'm thinking that there's far more going on than Older Clone Lex was letting on. The wording he used when talking to Clark was that Lex was the creator but he destroys the "failed" clones stating that there can only be 1 Lex. That gives me the impression that he (older Clone) knows that Lex is still alive and lied to Clark about him dieing in that explosion. Who knows, this is just a theory.

That would make sense since he knew he was already dying before Clark did anything to him. It makes you wonder too, why didn't he kill little Lex? Was it because he was hiding, or did he let him live on purpose?

 

[Webhead2006]

yea who knows with the little lex there.

 

[blksuperman2]

That would make sense since he knew he was already dying before Clark did anything to him. It makes you wonder too, why didn't he kill little Lex? Was it because he was hiding, or did he let him live on purpose?

the bandages on little Lex were weird too. They show him remove them briefly revealing that his skin was removed. I initially thought that it was his skin that saved Tess but perhaps it was Little Lex's DNA which has been keeping original Lex alive. It's going to be an interesting Subplot this year for sure. I haven't been a fan of the little B & C subplots on this show in a while.

 

[Mike_D202]

Reguarding little Lex: he told Tess that some clones age faster than others. This leads me to believe that he will be the "new Lex" (whenever they can get M.R. back I guess).

And I'm sure they will use some kind of kryptonian ritual to bring Lex's soul into the "new lex" with Tess trying to stop it and failing or something.

 

[Webhead2006]

yea the two most logical thoughts are little lex grow rapidly to proper age and becomes new lex and he has lex's mind/memories. With tess trying to keep him good but it wont last. Or that all the clones were wrong and the real lex is alive and coming.

 

[MAN O STEEL]

Regarding little Lex: he told Tess that some clones age faster than others. This leads me to believe that he will be the "new Lex" (whenever they can get M.R. back I guess).

So by the time he ages enough to look like the Lex we know, he'll just magically stop aging at an accelerated?. this makes no sense.





Steve

 

[Webhead2006]

well maybe this clone could have been program to grow to a certain point and then stop the rapid growth. we dont know all the dets on the clones.

 

[SpideyVille]

Oh man, I'm getting flashbacks of another exploding baby with all this talk about rapid age accelerations.

 

[MAN O STEEL]

well maybe this clone could have been program to grow to a certain point and then stop the rapid growth. we dont know all the dets on the clones.

Doesn't that just sound like lazy & convenient storytelling though?. That he just so happens to stop growing at the exact age Lex needs to be to, line up with the real Lex's age?. I hope they don't go this route, but it seems like something they'd do, so I won't be surprised.




Steve

 

[Webhead2006]

well it doesnt have to be like that baby lol. as for it being a copout, convenient thing sure it is. But this is a scifi/fantasy show. Why cant a clone be set to grow at a certain peroid and then stop.

 

[Kii]

Oh man, I'm getting flashbacks of another exploding baby with all this talk about rapid age accelerations.

No, we must never speak of that episode!

 

[Webhead2006]

yea even deknight regrets that episode.

 

[SpideyVille]

Haha what were they smoking when they came up with that one.

As for the Lex clones, they seemed to be numbered and that kid was numbered 15, meaning he was probably a later try.

We've also seen with Emily Dinsmore, the girl Lionel had cloned back in season 2, she came back in season 3 and she was much older. So there's evidence right there that they just might go that route with the clone.

I wonder how they did the Julian clone in season 7. I guess they were all cloned as infants and eventually grew up at certain rates, which could explain why the one who spoke to Lois was much older, and why Lex called him a failed experiment.

 

[SpitCurl]

I'm fine w/them grooming lil Alexander to be the new (real) Lex.

It makes sense that Older Lex let him live for that reason. He knew the kid was there. And it was after he saw his nose bleeding that he ran to the blow torch and stated "there can only be one Lex Luthor". I assume he knew he was dying and that the kid was one clone that worked, so he destroyed the others and eventually died himself.

 

[DavidB1111]

, or Lucas with a sex change

Oh, poor Oliver!
After all, just like Batman, he's only gay for Superman.

Bad jokes aside,

you make some very good points, but i think that until they actually come out and say he was a ghost, then i think it is open to interpretation. we'll see.

Annie

Thank you, and yes, good point, until we know for certain, it's up to interpretation.
I just hope Superman doesn't end up hallucinating.
"Is it me, or is he h." "Hungry, yes." The Flash, and Batman.
The comic where Superman got stoned.

That is a logical thought on how darkseid is for the show. As for lex clones yea its totally easy to say maybe the truck lex was just one of the first clones and the clones didnt know that. So then thy could say lex is still out there, or it will likely be the little lex will age quickly and become the new lex.

Webhead2006

Thank you, Webhead for saying that you liked my thought. And personally, I think the real Lex was the one who blew up.
But who knows. I'm fine with any resolving of that story line.

As long as they resolve it and not leave it up in the air.

 

[Mike_D202]

So by the time he ages enough to look like the Lex we know, he'll just magically stop aging at an accelerated?. this makes no sense.





Steve

Wellllll the Lex clone in Lazarus wasn't exactly a 90 year old man. This is Smallville

 

[MAN O STEEL]

Wellllll the Lex clone in Lazarus wasn't exactly a 90 year old man

I'm not sure what kind of point your making, could you clarify further?




Steve

 

[kapow]

The suit's use in SV was merely as a prop. IF Welling is to wear the Superman costume by the end of SV - and we're all hopeful that he does - a new suit will have to be made for him. This goes beyond BR's suit being too small or too big for Welling. Actors do NOT wear costumes made for or worn by other actors. Ever. They have costumes made for them specifically. This is a strict union rule. Even if a character is supposed to wear another character's clothing within the fiction of the story, duplicate clothing must be created.[/QUOTE]

I belive that the suit is just a prop but when it comes to a new suit must be made for that actor i don't belive that is right because in the episode hydro TW used the Green Arrow stunt suit reason for this was it had more room in has it had padding that was removed. This was stated on the dvd/blu box set season 6 by JH in a interview.