Yeah, it occurred to me the other day that Infinity was basically just stuff from Hickman's Avengers plot plus Thanos. It really didn't seem like it needed an event to itself, but it would've been a great arc of Avengers.
That was my big complaint the whole time through. The space stuff should have been an arc of Avengers; the Thanos stuff should have been an arc of New Avenger.
Phaedrus45 said:
I don't see a problem with the events. They really don't happen that often, especially if you are a follower of only certain titles. Infinity was mainly an Avengers event; and, Battle of the Atom was exclusive to only four of the X-titles. It used to be an event effected a whole lot more than that. If sales of events are dwindling (and, sorry, I didn't read the article, as I'm writing this on a break at school), it's more due to the limits of these more aptly titled mini-events.
BofA was only 4 issues but 12 or 14 issues long. It wasn't a MASSIVE event, but a decent sized one if you didn't buy all 4 titles.
Infinity ran through Avengers, New Avengers, Nova, Thunderbolts, Guardians of the Galaxy, Wolverine & the X-Men, Captain Marvel, and Avengers Assemble. Not to mention the core mini, the Heist mini, and the Hunt mini. I'd say that ranks as a major event.
Prior to that was Age of Ultron with the core mini plus single issue tie-ins for 6 or 7 titles. And its fallout was felt in Indestructible Hulk, Superior Spider-Man, and a couple other books. Minor, yes, but still an event.
And that one came right on the heels of Avenger vs. X-Men with its 12 issue plus tie-ins in every major Avenger and X-Men comic.
Remember not that long ago when Events were once a year Summer deals? Yeah, they kinda got away from that so badly it's frustrating. If you only stick with one genre I suppose it isn't so bad, but when you only read snippets from each genre (an X-Book here, an Avenger book there, a fringe book on the side) you have to start picking up a bunch of crap you don't want.
Phaedrus45 said:
(Flashpoint was a true event. Forever Evil is more of a mini-event to me, unless you want to count the villain tie-in for that one month.)
In addition to the Villains Month issues, Forever Evil also includes 7 or 8 months of Justice League, Justice League of America, Justice League Dark, Pandora, Phantom Stranger, Constantine, and tie-in issues of Suicide Squad, Teen Titans. Also the core mini and the 6-issue Arkham War and Rogues Rebellion. Plus, I guess you could probably throw Trinity War in with this since it was the official lead-in to the event.
I'd say Forever Evil is on the scale of Civil War. But at least DC went 2 years between events. They had 4 or 5 part crossovers between two titles here and there, but not huge events.
Phaedrus45 said:
Oh, I loved Marvel's last two events, too. Infinity was so much different than Marvel's previous events. So many things were happening at once, and tie-in books were really essential to enjoying the story.
I hated Infinity. The requirement to read two other books to understand the event was frustrating. All that money spent and the story wasn't even any good. The two plots were pointlessly thrown together distracting from each other, Thanos was written horribly, the big bad Builders ended up being just another 2-dimensional alien threat. There was no character development and one heck of a Dues Ex Machina (which people fried Bendis over but praise Hickman?).
Honestly, I felt Infinity was one of the worst events to come out since the Bendis era events began. The only event that I'll confidently put below it is Age of Ultron.
Inhumanity hasn't exactly thrilled me yet; but, it's off-shoot from Infinity and not something I feel I'd have to read if I wanted to stop after Infinity #6.
Yeah, I skipping Inhumanity. I've not felt any need to bother with it.
Battle of the Atom was more a neat read. It felt like a natural progression of the story Bendis had been doing in his books. I guess X-Men and Wolverine & The X-Men readers might be upset that it went into their books.
I also disliked Battle of the Atom. It was horribly drawn out, didn't add anything to the franchise or any of the titles, and what it DID effect I didn't like. Kitty's turning on Wolverine's school was laughable. The O5 being trapped in the present makes no real sense. And so far nothing's happened with the future characters who stayed in the present. And none of them were all that interesting. Between that and Infinity, I was on comic frustration overload.
Actually the last minute reveal of SHIELD having sentinels was interesting. I'll give it that.
And the funny thing was, it felt like a proper extension of Bendis' X-Men run, but it wasn't even a Bendis event. It was a Jason Aaron story that Bendis pulled from for his stories.
runawayboulder said:
Events used to be unique and special but now they are not anymore.
Exactly. Events were special because they were important stories that changed things; and they were epic. Nowadays they're just another story. I mean, Infinity changed nothing save giving us some Inhumans. Age of Ultron changed nothing at all really. Battle of the Atom accomplished a little more but not much, and that could have been done in a 3 or 4 issue arc. Nowadays Events just feel like gigantic interruptions with no real consequence or pay off for those interruptions. At least with events like Civil War, Secret Invasion, and to a lesser extent Siege, the story reshaped the Marvel Universe. Ever since they've just been annoying.
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