The Dark Knight Exclusive TDK Set Report #3 8/13

[Juggernaut33]

Bleached skin from a chemical bath.

If you fall into a chemical bath, you have no skin left for sure.

 

[the amazing fro]

Great find! In the 2nd and thrid pics ledgers hair looks brown. So maybe he wasnt in full makeup at the time

 

[Agentsands77]

BOF's Jett gave this break-down on the Joker's image:

White Skin: Unexplained, but it's initially quite pale/white/bleached (however you want to describe it). The Joker uses some white face paint to even it out.

Green Hair: Unexplained.

Lipstick: Obviously self-applied.

Dark Eyes: Self-applied.

Scarred Smile: Obtained during the events of THE DARK KNIGHT.

 

[Crook]

If you fall into a chemical bath, you have no skin left for sure.

The real-world is

..that way. Have a nice day.

 

[the amazing fro]

BOF's Jett gave this break-down on the Joker's image:

White Skin: Unexplained, but it's initially quite pale/white/bleached (however you want to describe it). The Joker uses some white face paint to even it out.

Green Hair: Unexplained.

Lipstick: Obviously self-applied.

Dark Eyes: Self-applied.

Scarred Smile: Obtained during the events of THE DARK KNIGHT.

Id prefer if the hair wasnt self applied but i wouldnt mind if it was. The white skin has to be bleached and not self applied. Whats the point other wise?

 

[Crook]

Interesting that according to Jett, the scarred smile happens during TDK, not before. Is it possible we'll get a classic look, even for a moment?

 

[enright6]

A buddy of mine was cast last night for shooting downtown chicago. he was a gotham city cop. he saw heath close up but wasnt allowed to say anything to him. He was directing traffic when joker came shashing through the barricade. from what he told me about the scene was another cop came up to the drivers side widow of the truck and then joker pulls out a sawed off shotgun and blows the cop away. he said they filmed it 4 times and then he was done. he was there from 5pm till about 11. if i can get the couple pics he took with his cell phone i will try to post them. he said they wouldnt allow him to take out his phone on set so all he got was pics of himself in costume and a couple of some cop cars.

 

[OSM]

From what I heard, the Joker is already psychotic to the Nth degree before he gets his face bleached. I'm not sure we'll see Joker fall into a chemical bath, more likely applying his make up to himself. Perhaps getting his mouth cut on both sides to form a sadistic smile is what motivates him to do this? If this is the case, then Nolan is nailing the character perfectly, Joker at his most insane. He was already on the path to crime at the end of begins, not to mention leaving a calling card dubbing him the "Joker". Doesn't get any creepier then that.

 

[Juggernaut33]

The real-world is

..that way. Have a nice day.

Chris Nolan goes the same way.

 

[irishbat]

Id prefer if the hair wasnt self applied but i wouldnt mind if it was. The white skin has to be bleached and not self applied. Whats the point other wise?

I think its meant to show how his mental state degrades over the course of the movie as some reports have indicated, remember in the Bank Scene he appeared to be pale, not white, and also he had brown hair with green streaks ( could this be when J is still somewhat normal and not quite insane?...although this same report added that the pale skin didn't go below his neck...did he always paint himself? And if he did why?!?!? and why would tough guys work with a man painted a as a clown?!?! ), later reports have him with completely white skin and completely green hair....... and also report that the quality of the decayed make up declines with the movies progress and J's sanity, therein comes BOF's reports that the make up will be cracking in some places.....

Me no likey the way this sounds Heres hoping I'm completely wrong! t:

 

[batman44]

BOF's Jett gave this break-down on the Joker's image:

White Skin: Unexplained, but it's initially quite pale/white/bleached (however you want to describe it). The Joker uses some white face paint to even it out.

Green Hair: Unexplained.

Lipstick: Obviously self-applied.

Dark Eyes: Self-applied.

Scarred Smile: Obtained during the events of THE DARK KNIGHT.

Good enough for me.

 

[OSM]

I think you guys are misjudging this film too soon. You have to remember this is Nolan's retelling of Batman completely. Having Joker add makeup to his face rather then risk falling into a vat of dangerous chemicals sounds more realistic. That was the goal in Batman Begins and in this movie, to make Batman as realistic as possible. We've seen how brilliant Nolan's mind is in Begins, people should really trust his methods more. This director probably portrays the Bat universe better then any other movie director. Don't get me wrong, Tim Burton's view of Gotham was good too, but felt a bit too dark and Gothic at times. Yes the city is called "Gotham" for a reason, but Nolan's view of it sets the more reasonable tone to it. A chaotic city in need of a vigilante to bring those to justice, while the other films felt like something out of a crazy story book. (Batman 1989 and Returns)

 

[darknight7]

Hey all, thanks for the welcomes!

I'm in the camp that perma-clown is a must have and believe it or not DK7 when those first rumors surfaced that J was going to be some kinda crazed serial killer dressed in rags I firmly believed that the only realistic way he could have white skin was to get his entire body tattooed with white ink! Then getting the hair dyed, the lips tattooed even.... That would be cool even if Nolan didn't think the chemical bath was a believable situation.

The more I muse on it though the more it seems as if it'll be face paint.

Take Ra's as an example; in comics centuries old guy, kept alive through immersion in magical pits of liquid...... in the movie, ninja master with (as far we know) normal human lifespan..... but they did kept inline with his characters portrayal, well kinda.

So for TDK, we have the Joker; in the comics, crazed bleached white insane murderer/thief/whatever.... in the movie? Crazed, painted, insane bank robber? I dunno .

Oh by the way, WELCOME...sorry I forgot.

In regards to the Clown Prince of Crime...I see what you are saying, and personally I expect the same. The whole Ra's comparison makes a lot of sense, but at the same time...immortality and bleached/scarred skin are 2 totally different realities. One can truely exist in our world...and one cannot. So if you are looking at realism, think of it that way. But personally, I am excited, but have no answers...we all just have to wait and see if we get a perma-clown or not.

I want one, but as of right now...I'm calling NOT. Because that is just what my gut feeling is telling me. I just hope I am wrong.

--dk7

 

[7alex]

He looks like a super badass version of The Crow.

 

[Batman jr.]

I think you guys are misjudging this film too soon. You have to remember this is Nolan's retelling of Batman completely. Having Joker add makeup to his face rather then risk falling into a vat of dangerous chemicals sounds more realistic. That was the goal in Batman Begins and in this movie, to make Batman as realistic as possible. We've seen how brilliant Nolan's mind is in Begins, people should really trust his methods more. This director probably portrays the Bat universe better then any other movie director. Don't get me wrong, Tim Burton's view of Gotham was good too, but felt a bit too dark and Gothic at times. Yes the city is called "Gotham" for a reason, but Nolan's view of it sets the more reasonable tone to it. A chaotic city in need of a vigilante to bring those to justice, while the other films felt like something out of a crazy story book. (Batman 1989 and Returns)

People should realise that these are totally different directors.

And about that realism: a Nolan-Batmanfilm will never be realistic. Just grounded in reality, like "it could happen if they would be able to this or if they had that".

 

[Agentsands77]

Interesting that according to Jett, the scarred smile happens during TDK, not before. Is it possible we'll get a classic look, even for a moment?

Perhaps.

This is just my own speculation, but if the Joker does get the face scarring during THE DARK KNIGHT at some point, I'd imagine he won't be all in order looks-wise. He might be closer to the "classic" Joker in the lack of facial scarring, but otherwise, I don't think he'll be too classic. More like an in-development Joker, without as much of a refined and Jokerish costume/look.

 

[irishbat]

Ok OSM good points man, we get the realism bit.... but its kinda like this, the movie is about Batman, he a crimefighter, no powers, wears a suit somewhat resembling a bat. We got that in Begins. Woohoo.
Now we have the Joker, he a criminal, no powers, has a pernamently scarred visage, white face, red lips, green hair, this scarring drove him insane and now he commits crimes as the Joker we know and love.
If we get a Joker who paints his face it takes away from the core of the character. It'd be like making a Batman movie where Bruce gotten bitten by a radioactive bat and could therefore see in the dark and hear what criminals where whispering in the night...... same character, same motivations, same costume and look.... but it isn't the Batman we know and love.... Know what I mean?

and yes for the sake of realism we can make sacrifices... let them have the green hair be a dye job (I'm even willing to let it be the brown/green streaks we've heard about & seen) let him paint on the red lips, let him have that scarred grin, but give me an all over multilated white skinned Joker, have it tattooed, from a chemical bath, or even make him an albino, better still don't explain it at all! Realism does not equal face paint!

 

[irishbat]

Thanks for the welcome DK7! And btw I completely agree with you, bleached skin I could totally believe but although I do have the faith in our man Nolan I do recall that on BB he didn't even want Bats to have a graple gun, that was Goyers insistance.... maybe now that Goyers gone Nolan just can't see bleaching as a viable believable aspect of the character.

 

[OSM]

Now we have the Joker, he a criminal, no powers, has a pernamently scarred visage, white face, red lips, green hair, this scarring drove him insane and now he commits crimes as the Joker we know and love.
If we get a Joker who paints his face it takes away from the core of the character. It'd be like making a Batman movie where Bruce gotten bitten by a radioactive bat and could therefore see in the dark and hear what criminals where whispering in the night...... same character, same motivations, same costume and look.... but it isn't the Batman we know and love.... Know what I mean?

and yes for the sake of realism we can make sacrifices... let them have the green hair be a dye job (I'm even willing to let it be the brown/green streaks we've heard about & seen) let him paint on the red lips, let him have that scarred grin, but give me an all over multilated white skinned Joker, have it tattooed, from a chemical bath, or even make him an albino, better still don't explain it at all! Realism does not equal face paint!

Hmm...yes. You prove a good point. Well, my post was just a theory of what I think might happen, we'll just have to wait and see.

 

[Batman jr.]

Ok OSM good points man, we get the realism bit.... but its kinda like this, the movie is about Batman, he a crimefighter, no powers, wears a suit somewhat resembling a bat. We got that in Begins. Woohoo.
Now we have the Joker, he a criminal, no powers, has a pernamently scarred visage, white face, red lips, green hair, this scarring drove him insane and now he commits crimes as the Joker we know and love.
If we get a Joker who paints his face it takes away from the core of the character. It'd be like making a Batman movie where Bruce gotten bitten by a radioactive bat and could therefore see in the dark and hear what criminals where whispering in the night...... same character, same motivations, same costume and look.... but it isn't the Batman we know and love.... Know what I mean?

and yes for the sake of realism we can make sacrifices... let them have the green hair be a dye job (I'm even willing to let it be the brown/green streaks we've heard about & seen) let him paint on the red lips, let him have that scarred grin, but give me an all over multilated white skinned Joker, have it tattooed, from a chemical bath, or even make him an albino, better still don't explain it at all! Realism does not equal face paint!

I hate this kind of comment. It's not a realistic film, because it can't happen in real life. Wait until you see the film or the first trailer or so.

The more pics I see of this Joker, the more I'm convinced he'll be the Joker. He'll be much closer than Nicholson' interpretation. Joker is scary, insane, intelligent, dangerous, sick, sarcastic, whatever. But not FUNNY.

 

[Milkman95]

I'd be disappointed if he has to apply white make-up to his face - it needs to be permanent with him adding lipstick. From Jett's description, it seems he's only adding more to his already perma-white face to resemble a clown more.

 

[irishbat]

Hey Batman Jr.
Whenever I write the word realistic I not inferring Real World Laws on the movie, its not like I want my TDK to be completely real, not at all, when I use the word realistic I'm referring to Nolans attitude toward the franchise as grounding the movies in realism. Thats all

We all know this stuff couldn't go down for real but in the wonderfull world of film's hyper-reality we believe it could happen! Thats the fun part!

And I'm judging the movie, not at all, I'm just voicing my opinion on the directon of an iconic character that they seem to be taking, thats all!

 

[donk70]

I'd be disappointed if he has to apply white make-up to his face - it needs to be permanent with him adding lipstick. From Jett's description, it seems he's only adding more to his already perma-white face to resemble a clown more.

Ya know, I'm not going to flame Jett or anything, but I would take anything that's said on BOF (and here, for that matter) with a grain of salt.

It's nice to speculate and even I have got caught up in all the Batty-goodness, but lets wait untill we get word from the studio.

 

[The Joker]

His hair doesn't look green in those pics. That has me worried.

 

[Batman jr.]

His hair doesn't look green in those pics. That has me worried. Also, like everyone else, I hope he has bleached skin and not self applied make up.

That totally ruins the concept of the Joker.

Look at the video. His hair is GREEN. Everyone says his hair is GREEN.

Djeezes.

And Jett ? man, I don't like that guy. Someone who has seen the Joker very close says the recently posted manip was quite accurate and Jett says: "way off". And not to mention his stupid spoiler policy.