F4 #538

[The Geek Vault]

This was an interesting issue. The thing was really really helped in it. Who is silverclaw. oh yeah and Thor is finally back. Puppet Master and Thinker teaming up.

 

[Dread]

This was an interesting issue. The thing was really really helped in it. Who is silverclaw. oh yeah and Thor is finally back. Puppet Master and Thinker teaming up.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silverclaw

I always saw her as Marvel's answer to DC's Vixen. And much like Vixen, she's a C-Lister at best.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

What's this about Thor?

 

[Dread]

What's this about Thor?

In the issue,

Spoiler

lines of people'd gathered around where Thor's hammer had fallen, all taking turns trying to lift it (sort of like Excaliber from the stone). Finally, the mysterious blond traveller (whose belt initials are "DB"), brakes through the line, grabs the hammer, and vanishes in a brilliant flash of light.

Quite why Marvel is choosing to revive Thor in FANTASTIC FOUR of all books is beyond me, but I am sure its boosting sales.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Ugh, goddamnit, now I have to keep buying Fantastic Four? Damn it.

 

[Darthphere]

Ugh, goddamnit, now I have to keep buying Fantastic Four? Damn it.

Pretty much. Its been a good arc though.

 

[Dread]

Ugh, goddamnit, now I have to keep buying Fantastic Four? Damn it.

You could just read my elongated "reviews" for issues that come out...

Although that was pretty much my reaction, although JMS seems stronger on F4 then he is on ASM at this point, but maybe that's a minority opinion.

 

[Darthphere]

You could just read my elongated "reviews" for issues that come out...

Although that was pretty much my reaction, although JMS seems stronger on F4 then he is on ASM at this point, but maybe that's a minority opinion.

Nah, ive been enjoying this arc. Except you know.

Doom: Damn, cant pick up Mjolnir, oh well, lets go boys.

 

[Dread]

Nah, ive been enjoying this arc. Except you know.

Doom: Damn, cant pick up Mjolnir, oh well, lets go boys.

Yeah, I felt his resurrection felt a bit wasted for what amounted to a rather pointless action story. Plus, out of 2 issues, the first basically did nothing but tell us what the cover already told us, so it felt a little wasted.

I'm not a big fan of the Four, though, so I may go mid-storyline if I see something really nasty.

It could be a good angle for Doom in CW to simply offer "sanctuary" for displaced heroes. That way he could gather more allies for a "rebellion" fight, which he would of course capitilize on to try to rule the world again. But I doubt it.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I didn't really like JMS' take on the FF to begin with. They seem kind of weird and alien after Waid. I'm pretty sure that JMS won't be able to sell the ******ed decision to bring the super-smart Reed down on the side of registration, either.

 

[Darthphere]

I didn't really like JMS' take on the FF to begin with. They seem kind of weird and alien after Waid. I'm pretty sure that JMS won't be able to sell the ******ed decision to bring the super-smart Reed down on the side of registration, either.

Im guessing you havent read this?

Moving back to story elements, when asked about Reed Richards’ motivation for joining the pro-registration side in Civil War, Straczynski said that in an upcoming issue, he has Peter Parker ask Reed that very question. As Straczynski related, Reed tells Peter about his uncle, who was a writer and creator, and was caught up in a McCarthy-esque witch hunt, and as a result, was jailed and saw his career destroyed. When Peter expresses his feelings of how horrible that must have been for Reed’s uncle, Mr. Fantastic says it was, but the law is the law is the law, and his uncle was wrong for not cooperating with the government – a stance by Reed which Peter finds unsettling.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I have, actually. That was one of the reasons I said I doubt JMS could sell it. Seems a bit odd to have the smartest man in the world mindlessly follow the letter of the law, wouldn't you say?

 

[Darthphere]

I have, actually. That was one of the reasons I said I doubt JMS could sell it. Seems a bit odd to have the smartest man in the world mindlessly follow the letter of the law, wouldn't you say?

Perhaps, depends how they play it. Hes a scientist, he thinks logically, he hardly ever thinks with his heart. He see this as logical, thereofre he supports it. But we know Reed has bent and even broken the law in his favor.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Exactly, so he's either a hypocrite or an idiot. It just doesn't seem to fit with Reed's character for me.

 

[Darthphere]

Exactly, so he's either a hypocrite or an idiot. It just doesn't seem to fit with Reed's character for me.

I dont nkow, it seems like he hasnt really explained himself that well. I think the best way to get somehting decent out of this is to play the emotional angle. His kids were almost taken away from him because the baxter Building was thought to be too dangerous. Have him think that what happened to Stamford couldve easily happened right there in NYC and the thought of losing his family is too much, therefore he blindly follows the SHRA, but the irony is in the process of doing everything in his power to protect his family and loved ones they further drift apart.

Thats how I would play it, but im no JMS.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

The guy keeps a portal to the Negative Zone in his house and his children have survived literally being sent to Hell. I don't think playing the angle that he's worried about his family is going to cut it, myself.

 

[Darthphere]

The guy keeps a portal to the Negative Zone in his house and his children have survived literally being sent to Hell. I don't think playing the angle that he's worried about his family is going to cut it, myself.

The Extremis virus.


*runs*

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Huh?

 

[Darthphere]

Huh?

People think that the Extremis is mainoulating Tony into being an *******.

 

[supermarvelman]

I dont think he is all that worried about his family, it's other people that dont have the means to protect their kids like the Fantastic Four do.

 

[Darthphere]

I dont think he is all that worried about his family, it's other people that dont have the means to protect their kids like the Fantastic Four do.

I doubt he cares. Hes that type of guy.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

People think that the Extremis is mainoulating Tony into being an *******.

But Tony's always been an *******. Has everyone forgotten about the Armor Wars and the Death of Tony Stark stories already? Tony's heart is in the right place as a superhero, but he ****ing sucks at being a nice guy.

 

[Darthphere]

I know ha.

 

[herakles]

In the issue,

Spoiler

lines of people'd gathered around where Thor's hammer had fallen, all taking turns trying to lift it (sort of like Excaliber from the stone). Finally, the mysterious blond traveller (whose belt initials are "DB"), brakes through the line, grabs the hammer, and vanishes in a brilliant flash of light.

Quite why Marvel is choosing to revive Thor in FANTASTIC FOUR of all books is beyond me, but I am sure its boosting sales.

FINALLY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YES the reason why I started reading comics as a 9 year old in 1983 is coming BACK!!!

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

Most women don't think so concerning Tony.


But I can see where Reed agrees with the government. It's the same reason he agreed with Tony during the Illuminati. It's organized. He's logical by nature, that takes serious organization. Everybody registering, training, and working for a single source where someone (most likely Tony, or Reed, or some combination of other heros) can direct where the most good can be done. So basically, you utilize the resources logically. That and he doesn't see the romance behind vigilantism, and since his kids have always been in the way of a threat, and always come out fine, he doesn't see how a mask can really protect someone. From his personal experience of course.