Fan Review Thread SPOILERS INSIDE - Part 1

[Harley2004]

Well, I liked this one just a little more than the first. The scope, visual fx, cinematography and overall production values were far and away better (as expected), but the pacing was really weird for me. The beginning felt slow and then key moments felt rushed, imo. I feel like there may be a lot on the cutting room floor of this one.

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I agree. This movie, while far better than IM2, like that, seems like it went through a heavy marvel filter. Really hope Alan Taylor, is left to put a real directors cut on blu-ray.

 

[TeeKay]

Could simply be a better payday?

I was also bored by the elevator scene. I think we're supposed to be excited by the guy with dark hair catching Cap's shield?

You know what's a good action sequence? The Joker in TDK using the goon's skull to crush a pencil.

 

[tay1]

Could simply be a better payday?

I was also bored by the elevator scene. I think we're supposed to be excited by the guy with dark hair catching Cap's shield?

You know what's a good action sequence? The Joker in TDK using the goon's skull to crush a pencil.

That's not really an action sequence

 

[TeeKay]

That's not really an action sequence

I don't think he knows what an action sequence is unless he's being sacarstic but whatever.

 

[jmc]

Could simply be a better payday?

Given how much Marvel lowballs its talent I find it unlikely. And besides, I have far too much respect for Robert Redford to believe he would do it for money.

 

[T"Challa]

Given how much Marvel lowballs it's talent I find it unlikely. And besides, I have far too much respect for Robert Redford to believe he would do it for money.

I think it was basically a 'why not' scenario for Redford. He said in an interview he just wanted to try something new and different. Marvel at this moment might be the safest blockbuster franchise. Its guaranteed to make hundreds of millions of dollars, and a ton of people will see him in action.. and the movies by and large maintain a certain level of quality.

 

[DA_Champion]

Given how much Marvel lowballs its talent I find it unlikely. And besides, I have far too much respect for Robert Redford to believe he would do it for money.

I didn't know that they lowball their talent?

Also, I disagree that appearing in a mediocre movie to get a bigger payday would somehow be an act to look down upon. I think it's fine to do some things for the money alone.

 

[jignat]

I just saw it. It was solid, but felt pretty safe. Not something to inspire much debate, but not Shumacher bad.

Pros:

Hemsworth himself gave a more assertive performance
Loki/Tom Hiddleston is his awesome self
Humor
Action set pieces and special effects
Frigga actually doing something in the movie
a cameo by that Marvel character was the funniest scene and a nice surprise

Cons
Lack of Sif and Warriors three. I would have thought there would be more romantic tension between her and Jane. Guys didnt fight enough.
Malekith felt very 1 dimensional and should have been in more scenes.Going from Loki in the oirginal to him seems a step down.
Music felt blah
Richard and the other intern guy - I didn't care for them to be honest.

Im giving it 7/10.

 

[jmc]

I think it was basically a 'why not' scenario for Redford. He said in an interview he just wanted to try something new and different. Marvel at this moment might be the safest blockbuster franchise. Its guaranteed to make hundreds of millions of dollars, and a ton of people will see him in action.. and the movies by and large maintain a certain level of quality.

He's still a choosey actor though. He's made like 5 movies in 10 years, so it actually gives me confidence there's more to Cap 2 than the rather generic action film the trailer presented itself as.

 

[DA_Champion]

I don't think he knows what an action sequence is unless he's being sacarstic but whatever.

OK, it's an action shot and not an action sequence, thanks for the pedantic (and irrelevant) lecture guys ...

What I meant by it's done right is that:

- It genuinely looks cool, and it's original;
- It involves actors and talent and not just CGI;
- It fulfils a role in the plot and the build-up of the characters beyond just "looking cool";
- It is embedded within a high-tension theme, and thus accentuates that tension;

None of the action shots in Thor 2 gave me a "wow", except possibly Heimdall running off the bridge to slay that cloaked mini ship, and even that was mostly CGI and done by a secondary character, and ... it's only wow by comparison, relative to (for example) the weak scene at the start where Thor breaks up Rock-Man with his hammer.

Admittedly, it's hard to make a great action sequence. In MoS, only the Smallville fight felt like a HR to me.

 

[Destructus86]

Next to Avengers this was EASILY my favorite Marvel film. I was blown away. It just looked fantastic and I greatly enjoyed the story.

 

[C. Lee]

totally agree. And jeez. "We just came back from svartalfheim and I found a body"

"Oh really? WHEN I TOLD NO ONE TO LEAVE AND THE BIFROST WAS CLOSED?!"

I thought it was pretty obvious that Odin had sent a search party out.

 

[C. Lee]

Could simply be a better payday?

I was also bored by the elevator scene. I think we're supposed to be excited by the guy with dark hair catching Cap's shield?

You know what's a good action sequence? The Joker in TDK using the goon's skull to crush a pencil.

Yes....yes I do....and you apparently don't.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

I thought it was pretty obvious that Odin had sent a search party out.

Plus, Loki used one of his hidden wormholes to go back, chilled while keeping his ear to the ground for a bit, and after he heard Odin sent a rescue team out he re-takes the guards form and let's Odin know about "Loki's" death. Bingo bango bongo!

What I actually want to know for certain is was it Loki as Odin that sent the

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Infinity Stone

to

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The Collector

as a way to get

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Thanos

off his back? Or was Odin himself taking action? I am not totally convinced Odin is locked away somewhere by his wayward adopted son.

 

[tay1]

Given how much Marvel lowballs its talent I find it unlikely. And besides, I have far too much respect for Robert Redford to believe he would do it for money.

So when did you first fall in love with the guy?

 

[DA_Champion]

Plus, Loki used one of his hidden wormholes to go back, chilled while keeping his ear to the ground for a bit, and after he heard Odin sent a rescue team out he re-takes the guards form and let's Odin know about "Loki's" death. Bingo bango bongo!

What I actually want to know for certain is was it Loki as Odin that sent the

Spoiler

Infinity Stone

to

Spoiler

The Collector

as a way to get

Spoiler

Thanos

off his back? Or was Odin himself taking action? I am not totally convinced Odin is locked away somewhere by his wayward adopted son.

I don't know the mythology of GoTG, I've actually never read any of their comics.

The collector, is he supposed to be a bad guy or a good guy?

 

[TeeKay]

I didn't know that they lowball their talent?

Also, I disagree that appearing in a mediocre movie to get a bigger payday would somehow be an act to look down upon. I think it's fine to do some things for the money alone.

Wow I didn't know you could see into the future to know that the movie is mediocre.

 

[Spideysays]

Plus, Loki used one of his hidden wormholes to go back, chilled while keeping his ear to the ground for a bit, and after he heard Odin sent a rescue team out he re-takes the guards form and let's Odin know about "Loki's" death. Bingo bango bongo!

What I actually want to know for certain is was it Loki as Odin that sent the

Spoiler

Infinity Stone

to

Spoiler

The Collector

as a way to get

Spoiler

Thanos

off his back? Or was Odin himself taking action? I am not totally convinced Odin is locked away somewhere by his wayward adopted son.

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I think it makes the most sense. Odin seems very egotistical (as he is in the books) so why would he all of a sudden decide that his vault containing numerous galaxy threatening artifacts would now be inadequate for the Aether and the Tesseract to coexist in?

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Also, notice that Volstagg basically tells the collector they have another stone in their own possession. So now the collector knows where a second "stone" is located: the one Thanos wanted first. Its just too many errors for Odin to allow. Loki being brash and unlearned, (maybe even fearful), would make such errors.

 

[DA_Champion]

Wow I didn't know you could see into the future to know that the movie is mediocre.

Stop being so defensive -- I didn't write that Cap 2 is mediocre. It's the second time you read an aggression on my part that is not there.

Try and read and follow context instead.

JMC wrote that he has confidence in Cap 2 because RR has agreed to act in it. I said maybe the payday's good. JMC said RR is above simply valuing money. I disagreed that appearing in a mediocre movie that pays well is somewhat of a blight.

So I'm saying we shouldn't infer Cap 2's quality based on RR's agreement alone, and that if it does turn out a mediocre movie, we shouldn't pan him.

Context bro. Context.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

The direction was fine, the acting was fine for this sort of film, the movie looked better than the first film. It had the same fragmented feel and pacing issues that I have seen in every comicbook/action movie this year. The details of the storyline got too complicated so I just boiled it down to "they had to stop the bad guy from taking over or destroying the world or something." I was just confused during a lot of this film. I thought the movie was a little slow to start and rushed at the same time, some plot points were poorly handled and I still don't think Hemsworth and Portman have much chemistry but at least their sorta love story felt less annoying this time. The only things I like more in the first film are Thor's development as a character and Loki as the villain. The villain in The Dark World is practically a non entity. It's not the actor's fault though.

Overall I was mostly
entertained and the film was less painful to me because it didn't feature that obvious cheapo set town and those horrible dutch angles and poorly done action scenes. It's a step up from the first but I don't see this film staying with me for a long time.

RATING-7/10

 

[jmc]

I never said that Redford was above it, yes of course he could do it for the money, I said I just don't believe he would do it.

 

[TeeKay]

OK, it's an action shot and not an action sequence, thanks for the pedantic (and irrelevant) lecture guys ...

What I meant by it's done right is that:

- It genuinely looks cool, and it's original;
- It involves actors and talent and not just CGI;
- It fulfils a role in the plot and the build-up of the characters beyond just "looking cool";
- It is embedded within a high-tension theme, and thus accentuates that tension;

None of the action shots in Thor 2 gave me a "wow", except possibly Heimdall running off the bridge to slay that cloaked mini ship, and even that was mostly CGI and done by a secondary character, and ... it's only wow by comparison, relative to (for example) the weak scene at the start where Thor breaks up Rock-Man with his hammer.

Admittedly, it's hard to make a great action sequence. In MoS, only the Smallville fight felt like a HR to me.

Maybe Marvel should hire you to direct action shots for their movies since you apparently know all about 'action' shots.

 

[DA_Champion]

Maybe Marvel should hire you to direct action shots for their movies since you apparently know all about 'action' shots.

Read.

I didn't say action sequences (and shots, for the pedants) were easy, I said they were hard. Once somebody emerges who demonstrates that they are easy, hire that person

You are excessively defensive.

 

[JangoNate]

Great flick! I was pleasantly surprised at how much I enjoyed it. Humor was good, though I think there was a little too much of it during the final action sequence. Kinda hard to feel the dread when a new joke is cracked every few moments. Also loved Thor's development and the role reversal that happened with him and his father after what happened midway through.

I'll give it an 8/10 and my wife sounds like 9.5/10. Her favorite film this year.

I'm now officially pumped for next summer and not ready to skip over it with all the 2015 Superman/Batman, Avengers 2, SW Episode VII craziness on the horizon.

 

[Matt]

Page bump.