Fant4stic Fant4stic: Reborn! - - - - Part 38

[Willie Lumpkin]

I really don't see the harm in Miles' comments, even if the movie ends up on 70-80% let's just see what are on that list:
The Wolverine
Iron Man 2
Dredd
Kick-Ass
Ant-Man
Amazing Spider-Man
Thor 1
Avengers 2
Captain America 1
Red
Wanted
Adventures of Tin Tin
V for Vendetta
Superman Returns
Sin City

2 movies that came this year and had a similiar budget but bigger star names. A lot of movies people here are listing with over 80% are also sequels or have big name directors.

But Ultimately Miles Teller can be wrong and we get FF with a beautiful 80-90% and it will surprise him but also many others.

Honestly, with as much as you've been looking forward to this, doesn't this concern you?

The star of the film is basically telling you it's a mediocre film - not a stand-out.

I gave up on this long ago, but if I still thought it was going to be something special, this comment would concern me at the very least.

 

[Drz]

I'm not trying to justify or lessen anything here, i'm not making excuses. I'm literally stating that the guy is being honest (or blunt, how you want to look at it) and his comments do have truth in them.

Fantastic Four is the last superhero movie of this year and the previous two superhero movies that came this year didn't get a 80-90% tomato meter and there are plenty of big budget cape movies that don't have 80-90% tomato meter no matter how much praise the actors gave to those movies.

Getting a lower score than 80% isn't going to hurt the movie, just look at Ant-Man and Jurassic Park. Neither got 80-90% tomato meter but these movies are very loved in these boards.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I think this is the case: If Miles Teller had said the generic thing everyone says on talk shows such as "yeah the movie is good, go see it!" people could see it as a poor attempt at promoting a movie, now the man is being honest and saying "yeah, it might not get a 80-90 score" so now he's making excuses? I disagree with that but I won't hold it againts anybody and everyone here is entitled to their own opinions. The embargo is going to be lifted in a few days and it might surprise everyone or be very obvious. =P

I think the movie totally can be on the 80-90 meter, just like X-Men First Class.

The excuse is clear to me. He is trying to say "these types of movies" don't review well. By these types of movies, he is talking tentpole and comic book movies. This is flat out false. Just this summer we have Fury Road and Rogue Nation. And while I think it is horrible, Furious 7 ended up in the 80s. It is an excuse, and a poor one.

 

[wobbly]

I think this is the case: If Miles Teller had said the generic thing everyone says on talk shows such as "yeah the movie is good, go see it!" people could see it as a poor attempt at promoting a movie, now the man is being honest and saying "yeah, it might not get a 80-90 score" so now he's making excuses? I disagree with that but I won't hold it againts anybody and everyone here is entitled to their own opinions. The embargo is going to be lifted in a few days and it might surprise everyone or be very obvious. =P

Sorry, but it does come across as a 'pre-emptive' excuse. Basically saying he doesn't expect the critics to love it, as that's apparently a rarity. That is simply not true: The good CBM's usually get good scores, the average ones average, the bad ones bad.

You can applaud him for being honest, but that in itself is rare for any actor promoting their upcoming flick. The usual line is "all is well all is great" and they don't mention critics or expected RT scores at all. Can't say I've ever seen one basically say don't expect wonderful reviews from the critics before a release.

The excuses usually come after the Jury has come back in with their verdict, not before they have even heard the case.

I think the movie totally can be on the 80-90 meter, just like X-Men First Class.

We'll see soon enough. Whatever the result Teller has not been the best at pushing this thing.

 

[starscream22]

Honestly, with as much as you've been looking forward to this, doesn't this concern you?

The star of the film is basically telling you it's a mediocre film - not a stand-out.

I gave up on this long ago, but if I still thought it was going to be something special, this comment would concern me at the very least.

LOL there's been so much invested in trying to prove us wrong that the movie doesn't even matter to them. Just proving us wrong.

So even if this reboot gets a 20% on rt, if it still gets $40M OW they'll call it a home run in the bottom of the 9th and swing from chandeliers.

Rational and logic has been gone for a long time. So I wouldn't even compromise at this point.

My comments are strictly for the people who actually get it.

Don't have to like it....but still see the full picture here.

 

[The Guard]

He said "rarely". Not "never". And he also pointed out its something different. He didn't really say anything about its quality, nor did he imply it was mediocre. He implied that he's not sure which way critics will go.

 

[Tim_Riggins]

Teller is a good guy, if you bother to actually look at interviews of him outside of Fantastic Four. He's probably saying this to do some damage control, like "lower your expectations", hoping maybe that people will give it a shot, it's kind of clumsy in a way but he's probably annoyed with the negativity surrounding the movie and just being honest about it, that's it.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

"I think that my movie is not going to get good reviews," is not a good marketing tactic. Then again Teller is the one whom dissed his currently ongoing franchise Divergent.

I must say I do not like it when actors diss the hit film that will or did help their career. I just think that is so outrageously ungrateful.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

He said "rarely". Not "never".

Which isn't true. Just depends on the quality on the actual film. Rarely is a very good comic book or tentpole movie not rewarded with good scores.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

"I think that my movie is not going to get good reviews," is not a good marketing tactic. Then again Teller is the one whom dissed his currently ongoing franchise Divergent.

I must say I do not like it when actors diss the hit film that will or did help their career. I just think that is so outrageously ungrateful.

Is that what Divergent has done for his career? I would think that would be Whiplash and the like.

 

[The Guard]

Comparatively speaking, it is true. Most larger action films don't get great reviews. The ones that do are the exception, which is why they are celebrated. But I think he recognizes that this isn't going to be the typical superhero popcorn crowdpleaser film, and critics might well be mixed on it. They've been saying that for a long time.

And so he doesnt have as tight a grasp on recent RT numbers as he could. Why does that matter? Either the film will be good or it won't be.

He's not dissing his film. He's been explaining that it's different than what has come before. You all are looking for reasons to be upset at this point and reading way too much into this.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Comparatively speaking, it is. Most larger action films don't get great reviews. But I think he recognizes that this isn't going to be the typical superhero popcorn crowdpleaser film, and critics might well be mixed on it. They've been saying that for a long time.

You mean like this?

The critics have more problems with "typical crowdpleasers" usually.

 

[Val_Zod]

Comparatively speaking, it is true. Most larger action films don't get great reviews. The ones that do are the exception, which is why they are celebrated. But I think he recognizes that this isn't going to be the typical superhero popcorn crowdpleaser film, and critics might well be mixed on it. They've been saying that for a long time.

And so he doesnt have as tight a grasp on recent RT numbers as he could. Why does that matter? Either the film will be good or it won't be.

Lately we've been seeing more competently made comicbook films. Those are no longer the exception. I feel with the start of 2008 onwards, most comicbook films coming out have been on average have been decent.

 

[Flint Marko]

Comparatively speaking, it is true. Most larger action films don't get great reviews. The ones that do are the exception, which is why they are celebrated. But I think he recognizes that this isn't going to be the typical superhero popcorn crowdpleaser film, and critics might well be mixed on it. They've been saying that for a long time.

And so he doesnt have as tight a grasp on recent RT numbers as he could. Why does that matter? Either the film will be good or it won't be.

He's not dissing his film. He's been explaining that it's different than what has come before. You all are looking for reasons to be upset at this point and reading way too much into this.

And you are looking for excuses as to why we shouldn't be alarmed that the star of this movie doesnt think critics will like it. At this point I've seen people justify any and everything negative that's came out of the production to continue defending it, so nothing surprises me anymore. Teller just flat out said that it won't be recieved well by professional movie critics, but that's just another item on a long list of things to look past I guess.

 

[The Guard]

Lately we've been seeing more competently made comicbook films. Those are no longer the exception. I feel with the start of 2008 onwards, most comicbook films coming out have been on average have been decent.

He didn't say "comic book films". He said "films of this size".

 

[The Guard]

And you are looking for excuses as to why we shouldn't be alarmed that the star of this movie doesnt think critics will like it. At this point I've seen people justify any and everything negative that's came out of the production to continue defending it, so nothing surprises me anymore. Teller just flat out said that it won't be recieved well by professional movie critics, but that's just another item on a long list of things to look past I guess.

You and I have different ideas of what "flat out" means.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

There has been one truly decisive comic book movie over the last 5 years or so, and that is Man of Steel. That was the situation where critics and audiences actually seemed truly divided.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

He didn't say "comic book films". He said "films of this size".

Bad films of this size don't review well. Good films do. That is pretty much how it goes. And when I say bad and good, I am talking a more general consensus. Not my personal opinion.

 

[ThePhantasm]

He implied that he's not sure which way critics will go.

Which part of this sentence implies uncertainty?

"This is not a movie we're going to go on Rotten Tomatoes and it's going to be at 80 or 90%."

 

[Flint Marko]

You and I have different ideas of what "flat out" means.

"This is not a movie we're going to go on Rotten Tomatoes and it's going to be at 80 or 90%."

Not sure what your definition of "flat out" is but it couldn't be clearer. Continue with your excuses though.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

High 70% isn't a bad score, though it is the cutoff in terms of prestige.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

There has been one truly decisive comic book movie over the last 5 years or so, and that is Man of Steel. That was the situation where critics and audiences actually seemed truly divided.

The Amazing Spider-Man 2 as well I guess.

 

[C. Lee]

Teller, Mara, Jordon, and Bell were just on the TODAY show. It was about 5 minutes long. All but Teller looked happy to be there. Don't think anything new was said or shown.

 

[Flint Marko]

High 70% isn't a bad score, though it is the cutoff in terms of prestige.

If he's publicly drawing the line at 80-90, it could very well be quite lower than that.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

The Amazing Spider-Man 2 as well I guess.

TASM2 died in the states and wasn't really swamped by competition. It definitely has its fans, but the general view seemed to be quite negative, and still is. MoS split the world down the middle when it comes out imo, and has had a nice resurgence in general, at least from what I and my brother have seen.