Fant4stic Fant4stic: Reborn! - - - - - - - - Part 27

[Kelly]

Yep, looks that way.

Are we missing some regular posters?

 

[Eddie]

Yep, looks that way.

Are we missing some regular posters?

Funny, that.

 

[Jason Kane]

Yep, looks that way.

Are we missing some regular posters?

Looks like it. I've not seen a single post from them in the last few hours. Let along the last four pages

 

[Snow Queen]

Hmm, I have not watched Noah because I'm not interested in it. I might have seen the Rock monsters but I can't recall how they look from memory. I'll go look them eventually.

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[DarthSkywalker]

Hmm, I have not watched Noah because I'm not interested in it. I might have seen the Rock monsters but I can't recall how they look from memory. I'll go look them eventually.

You should watch it SPIDEY. I don't know how you feel about Aronofsky, but I found it to be a very good, plus my Emma is in it. She is also very good in it.

 

[Snow Queen]

You should watch it SPIDEY. I don't know how you feel about Aronofsky, but I found it to be a very good, plus my Emma is in it. She is also very good in it.

Looking for that clip for her though, seems IMDB disagrees with us a lot on this.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

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How Snow Queen goes about her everyday life:

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Looking for that clip for her though, seems IMDB disagrees with us a lot on this.

IMDB. The bastion of sanity. According to them, no one can act or direct. Heck to them, there hasn't been a good film this side of "The Great Train Robbery". t:

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Thanks for the clip Queen.

I'll only watch it because you asked Darth. It is still on Netflix I believe so all I have to do is turn on the blu ray player.

IMDB sucks by the way.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Yep, looks that way.

Are we missing some regular posters?

 

[DigificWriter]

Is it too much to ask for people to stop assuming that this rumored behind-the-scenes chaos automatically means the movie itself is going to suck?

It's unseemly and does give the impression that people are happy about the director's apparent personal self-implosion because it vindicates their predetermined dislike for this particular take on the characters.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Thanks for the clip Queen.

I'll only watch it because you asked Darth. It is still on Netflix I believe so all I have to do is turn on the blu ray player.

IMDB sucks by the way.

 

[Snow Queen]

How Snow Queen goes about her everyday life:

Hey, where'd you get that footage of me?

IMDB. The bastion of sanity. According to them, no one can act or direct. Heck to them, there hasn't been a good film this side of "The Great Train Robbery". t:

And here I thought it was the most trustworthy place on the internet.

Thanks for the clip Queen.

I'll only watch it because you asked Darth. It is still on Netflix I believe so all I have to do is turn on the blu ray player.

IMDB sucks by the way.

Anytime.

Yep, looks that way.

Are we missing some regular posters?

Hmm...I wonder why...

 

[ThePhantasm]

Is it too much to ask for people to stop assuming that this rumored behind-the-scenes chaos automatically means the movie itself is going to suck?

It's unseemly and does give the impression that people are happy about the director's apparent personal self-implosion.

Unfortunately its just one bad sign among MANY:

So... let's recall the facts...

The director wouldn't do his job properly.

The studio is doing massive reshoots.

The cast has not read any Fantastic Four comics and doesn't seem to care to.

The cast won't say much during interviews, instead substituting awkward silence and dodges.

Instead of Victor Von Doom of Latveria we are getting Victor Domashev, angry blogger.

The film has been repeatedly described by those involved as "dark" and "grounded," but there's no mention of it being "fantastic" or full of "adventure."

... yeah.

Fox just moved another movie (the new Hitman) to two weeks after Fant4stic. Looks like they know this movie won't have legs.

 

[Snow Queen]

Is it too much to ask for people to stop assuming that this rumored behind-the-scenes chaos automatically means the movie itself is going to suck?

It's unseemly and does give the impression that people are happy about the director's apparent personal self-implosion.

So... let's recall the facts...

The director wouldn't do his job properly.

The studio is doing massive reshoots.

The cast has not read any Fantastic Four comics and doesn't seem to care to.

The cast won't say much during interviews, instead substituting awkward silence and dodges.

Instead of Victor Von Doom of Latveria we are getting Victor Domashev, angry blogger.

The film has been repeatedly described by those involved as "dark" and "grounded," but there's no mention of it being "fantastic" or full of "adventure."

... yeah.

Yes, this is a sign that this film is going to be great.

And yet no one has said they're happy about it.

EDIT: Beaten to it.

 

[C. Lee]

I'll only watch it because you asked Darth. It is still on Netflix I believe so all I have to do is turn on the blu ray player.

A friend talked me into going see it with them.....I really could not believe how bad it was. Not kidding, my friend refunded the ticket price to me, said he was sorry for making me waste my time.

 

[Eddie]

Is it too much to ask for people to stop assuming that this rumored behind-the-scenes chaos automatically means the movie itself is going to suck?

It's unseemly and does give the impression that people are happy about the director's apparent personal self-implosion.

You're absolutely right. Hell, it's probably a GOOD sign that nobody wants to work with Trank and the movie was still in the midst of reshoots a week ago.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Is it too much to ask for people to stop assuming that this rumored behind-the-scenes chaos automatically means the movie itself is going to suck?

It's unseemly and does give the impression that people are happy about the director's apparent personal self-implosion because it vindicates their predetermined dislike for this particular take on the characters.

Did you read the reports? The reason he got fired from Star Wars is that FF is a disaster. If this has any qualities, you will have to thank Kinberg for saving the film from Trank.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

A friend talked me into going see it with them.....I really could not believe how bad it was. Not kidding, my friend refunded the ticket price to me, said he was sorry for making me waste my time.

Oh boy, wow.

You're absolutely right. Hell, it's probably a GOOD sign that nobody wants to work with Trank and the movie was still in the midst of reshoots a week ago.

All excellent signs.

 

[Gabe99]

Thanks for the links guys. Yeah, I am curious where those that acted like this was just rumors went. FF is such a disaster, it got him fired off of Star Wars. Kinberg couldn't take him anymore.

Inside a 'Star Wars' Firing: 'Fantastic Four' Problems Led to Director Josh Trank's Ouster
According to sources, Trank was sometimes indecisive and uncommunicative.

While director Josh Trank said Friday that he had “made a personal decision” to leave the Star Wars universe, sources say reports of the young director’s unusual conduct during the making of Fox’s upcoming Fantastic Four movie had raised alarm among Lucasfilm executives that were entrusting him with the second Star Wars standalone film.

Trank, 30, had raised eyebrows in April when he didn’t appear as scheduled at a Star Wars celebration in Anaheim. At the time, both Disney and the director cited illness as the cause but multiple knowledgeable sources say the studio had asked the filmmaker not to attend while considering whether to proceed with him on the second spinoff in a planned series of films.

Indeed, producers on Fantastic Four, set for release July 30, are said to have faced great challenges pulling the film together given behavior described by one insider as “erratic” and at times “very isolated.” Trank did not offer clear direction, this person adds, saying, "If you've got someone who can't answer questions or who isn't sure or is in hiding, that's not good."

A Fox spokesman says the studio is “very happy with the movie and we can’t wait for audiences to see it” but acknowledges, “There were definitely some bumps in the road.”

Among those bumps: Trank has several small dogs who were left in a rented house in New Orleans while the film was shooting there. According to sources, as much as $100,000 worth of damage was done to the property. A source says the production considers any destruction of the property to be Trank's responsibility.

Citing Trank’s work on the 2012 found-footage superhero movie Chronicle, an insider says: “No question there’s talent there. You can’t do Chronicle by accident.” But Trank seemed “like one of these kids who comes to the NBA with all the talent and none of the character-based skills to handle it. There’s equipment he doesn’t yet have.”

According to sources, Trank was sometimes indecisive and uncommunicative. Producers Simon Kinberg and Hutch Parker had to step in to help pull the film together, though sources stress that Trank was still on set and directing the film. (Were that not the case, the production could have run afoul of the Directors Guild of America.)

Just over three months from opening, Fox’s Fantastic Four has done re-shoots. Those were complicated because stars Miles Teller, Kate Mara and Michael B. Jordan had obligations on other films. The most recent round, which involved three days of re-shoots at the end of April, had to take place on weekends because of Teller’s work on Todd Phillip’s Arms and the Dude. Parker and Kinberg are said to have been heavily involved in those re-shoots, pulling them away from duties in Canada on X-Men: Apocalypse, which they also are producing.

Given the issues with Trank’s performance, the production added Stephen Rivkin (Avatar) to help pull the film together. Trank had hired his Chronicle editor, Elliot Greenberg, on the project.

Fantastic Four is meant to reboot the Marvel superhero franchise for Fox. The comic is venerated for its place in history as it launched Marvel Comics in 1962 and was the early creation from Stan Lee and Jack Kirby. Fox made two movies, released in 2005 and 2007, that made $330 million and $289 million respectively but failed to capture moviegoers’ imagination. Fox hastened to make a new movie as it risked having the rights revert back to Marvel.

Kinberg, who is producing the second Star Wars standalone project (the first, Rogue One, is being directed by Gareth Edwards for a December 2016 release), is said to have communicated his displeasure with Trank to Kathleen Kennedy and the team at Lucasfilm. As the Star Wars brain trust heard more about Trank's behavior and working style, they became less confident in handing over the film to him.

Now, having decided to part ways, the studio is searching for another filmmaker to take over the project.

Disney declined to comment.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

A friend talked me into going see it with them.....I really could not believe how bad it was. Not kidding, my friend refunded the ticket price to me, said he was sorry for making me waste my time.

Me, after this post:

I don't even know if I am going to be able to walk in the morning after that C. Lee.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Oh boy, wow.

Maybe I am just weird. Or simply smitten.

All excellent signs.

I have seen good films come out of horrible situations. I still can't believe that Vaughn made the best X-Men film in less then a year. But you usually need strong creative, and well that was apparently the major problem here. If Kinberg salvaged this, he deserves a statue at Fox.

 

[DigificWriter]

So... let's recall the facts...

The director wouldn't do his job properly.

The studio is doing massive reshoots.

The cast has not read any Fantastic Four comics and doesn't seem to care to.

The cast won't say much during interviews, instead substituting awkward silence and dodges.

Instead of Victor Von Doom of Latveria we are getting Victor Domashev, angry blogger.

The film has been repeatedly described by those involved as "dark" and "grounded," but there's no mention of it being "fantastic" or full of "adventure."

... yeah.

I would personally lump all of that stuff into the category of rumored behind-the-scenes chaos, and stand by my opinion that automatically assuming that said rumored BtS chaos justifies and vindicates people's predetermined dislike for this film is unseemly and gives the impression that people are happy about the director's apparent personal self-implosion.

 

[Snow Queen]

Maybe I am just weird. Or simply smitten.


I have seen good films come out of horrible situations. I still can't believe that Vaughn made the best X-Men film in less then a year. But you usually need strong creative, and well that was apparently the major problem here. If Kinberg salvaged this, he deserves a statue at Fox.

From the sound of this production, if Kinberg can salvage it, he deserves all the best director awards next year.

 

[Eddie]

Really surprised Bleeding Cool hasn't posted a story yet. Some of their scoops have pretty much been confirmed.