Fave Film and Why?

[god/devil]

Just wondering which is everyone fave x-men film. I have a theory and just want to see if I'm right. Please vote.

 

[Matt.S99]

x2-best script out of the 3,best character development and way better phoenix effect than x3

 

[TKing]

X2. It could have done with a bit more action imo, but it had great character development and Nightcrawler was just brilliant!

X3 comes close in second.

 

[lordofthenerds]

X2. Good action, character development, story, and sfx leads to a great movie.

 

[Goddessreicho]

Oh Jesus here we go. "X2 was the greatest cause blah blah blahblah blah..."

"Great characterization" oh really..hmmm lets see. Cyke is still an ineffective leader, not only that but his skills as a fighter disappear this time around. Storm is still an Aunt Jememia weather tool (with no story, I mean damn at least Cyke gets a noticable cameo in Jean's love life), Iceman morphs into Bryan Singer in disguse, Xavier starts his path into dinkdom, Jean turns into an annoying coy ****, Rogue gets a slight improvement but don't blink you may miss it.

Let's not even get into the undercooked villians.

This question is alot like a shooter asking do I want to be shot in the head, heart, or stomach.

 

[Angamb]

I voted X1 beacuse of the tone, the best of the three; was more like a drama than a blockbuster; and beacuse less is more.

 

[The Original Bamfer]

I voted X2... But X3 came in an extremely close second.

 

[Electrix]

Wtf are you even talking about?

I think he's talking about how Iceman isnt Iceman from the comics, just a new version which Singer created, and has similar characteristics to Singer.

Jean just has too many men in her life.

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

This is close, because I think X2 and X-Men: The Last Stand are neck and neck, but I'm going to give the edge to X-Men: The Last Stand because I like the story better, and I think the events are larger and more epic than what is in X2.

 

[Bastila]

X2 need i say why lol.

 

[the a1ant]

X2 is my favorite film, and has a higher replay-rate for me. I can see myself not watching X3 over and over again after some time has passed. I can't really explain why I enjoyed X2 more, but everything in the film just worked for me. The story was simple, but good. The cast was better than ever in this film, and there was a sense of natural 'fun' amongst them.

I like X3 as well, but more-so for the action, special effects, and two standout moments (Phoenix/Xavier and the final battle). Both X1 and X3 are at neck-and-neck for me.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

Why couldn't we select X1/X2 at the same time? For me those are my favorite X-Men films.

Why? Well, the events were a lot darker, somber, and more serious than what X3 depicted. From a personal perspective the story and the characters seemed to be going somewhere. Were they perfect? No. Were they 100% faithful to the comic book counterparts? Not entirely. However, as a whole the emotion that the two films really displayed means much more to me than mindless epic action.

After the events that transpired in X2, I was expecting something that would truly be epic, dark, serious, and intelligent. From a storyline standpoint you acknowledge that after Xavier either severely injured or killed thousands of humans due to Dark Cerebro that something darker was on the horizon.

I was expecting the Sentinels as a response to Xavier's actions. The cure? Come on. Planes crash, car crashes, elderly people more than likely dying on the spot, and etc, etc isn't enough to really go all out against mutants? The best that Kinberg and Penn could come up with is a cure?

I truly believe the Sentinels would've been a better direction as it shows the government fighting fire with fire, as curing the mutants simply doesn't kill them or rid them from the world, you know? As a whole X3 has a great concept and the ideas look great on paper. It's just they were horribly executed and were ruined by politics, rushed production, and other aspects that I'm sure are not known by the comic book fan community.

X1/X2 are my favorites as they hold the most emotional, better storylines, and better writing.

With X3 all I feel is that it's the usual mindless popcorn action flick and that's not what X-Men is about.

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

I agree with you on the Sentinels part, Sunrise.

I was truly disappointed when I learned Sentinels weren't in. To me, it felt like the obvious choice. While I enjoy the cure story arc, Sentinels would have been a lot better, and a lot more fitting.

Instead, we have a cure that's developed, not because of the mutant threat, but because some guy is upset that his son is a mutant.

 

[Rac]

X2. It's bigger, better and badder. Well, maybe not actually. I just wanted to type those. But, 1. X2 2. X1

 

[blind_fury]

X2 is overrated and X3 is underrated.

 

[Electrix]

The best that Kinberg and Penn could come up with is a cure?

I can remember reading an interview and Hugh Jackman said that it was FOX that decided that the cure storyline would be the main focus in X3. Kinberg and Penn were just writing what FOX had wanted.

With X3 all I feel is that it's the usual mindless popcorn action flick and that's not what X-Men is about.

I agree. Sentinels would have been great. FOX must have seen the cure as a cheaper way forward as Sentinels would have cost more to put on-screen.

 

[La_She-Beast]

Why couldn't we select X1/X2 at the same time? For me those are my favorite X-Men films.

Why? Well, the events were a lot darker, somber, and more serious than what X3 depicted. From a personal perspective the story and the characters seemed to be going somewhere. Were they perfect? No. Were they 100% faithful to the comic book counterparts? Not entirely. However, as a whole the emotion that the two films really displayed means much more to me than mindless epic action.

After the events that transpired in X2, I was expecting something that would truly be epic, dark, serious, and intelligent. From a storyline standpoint you acknowledge that after Xavier either severely injured or killed thousands of humans due to Dark Cerebro that something darker was on the horizon.

I was expecting the Sentinels as a response to Xavier's actions. The cure? Come on. Planes crash, car crashes, elderly people more than likely dying on the spot, and etc, etc isn't enough to really go all out against mutants? The best that Kinberg and Penn could come up with is a cure?

I truly believe the Sentinels would've been a better direction as it shows the government fighting fire with fire, as curing the mutants simply doesn't kill them or rid them from the world, you know? As a whole X3 has a great concept and the ideas look great on paper. It's just they were horribly executed and were ruined by politics, rushed production, and other aspects that I'm sure are not known by the comic book fan community.

X1/X2 are my favorites as they hold the most emotional, better storylines, and better writing.

With X3 all I feel is that it's the usual mindless popcorn action flick and that's not what X-Men is about.

I still can't believe that "we didn't have time" excuse. They had literally loads and loads of documentation... come on! Use your imagination.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

I can remember reading an interview and Hugh Jackman said that it was FOX that decided that the cure storyline would be the main focus in X3. Kinberg and Penn were just writing what FOX had wanted.




I agree. Sentinels would have been great. FOX must have seen the cure as a cheaper way forward as Sentinels would have cost more to put on-screen.

My mistake then. Well, if that is the case then it was another stupid idea by Fox.

Just recently I watched the trilogy without stopping with my girlfriend. She's a huge comic book fangirl and loves all three films as a whole. The first two are still what I consider to be classic X-Men stories and present the characters is a good to great light. Not everything was 100% faithful obviously and they're not perfect films.

However, X1/X2 still hold up very well and still remain great films. Watching X3 I just feel and believe the story is all over the place, the action is mindless and anti-climatic, and the writing is horribly executed as well.

Hopefully in the future they restart the franchise or release a sequel that so many fans won't be divided over.

 

[Angamb]

On the commentaries, Brett said there was an hidden plan about the Sentinels in X3, for explore in futures sequels, if there are more.

So my idea of the Sentinels in X4 doesn't seem impossible.

 

[The Original Bamfer]

On the commentaries, Brett said there was an hidden plan about the Sentinels in X3, for explore in futures sequels, if there are more.

So my idea of the Sentinels in X4 doesn't seem impossible.

You amuse me when you talk about things beside hair and manips.

Where was this bit of the commentary at?

 

[Angamb]

when I try? yeah....

 

[PhoenixRisen]

On one hand they are all disappointments because of their flaws, missed opportunities and cuz they are all XMINOs (hence the need for a whole new "movieverse" as opposed to simply a new "continuity.") However they all have good moments too so I look at the glass half full and like them all!!

But if I had to pick one it would definitely be X3 cuz it has....
MORE
fun, life, energy, visual appeal, teamwork, humor, exploration of "good" characters' dark sides, interesting catalyst for conflict than a machine...

and LESS
whininess, angst, "character development" aka boring chitchats with trite pathos/cliches thrown in, Lifetime/SciFi Channel feel, self-absorption, Singeristic dullness/dreariness, "Have you ever tried not being a mutant?", jellyfish, N*SYNC.

P.S. None of the movies really have any significant amount of *real* character development other than X3/Phoenix/Professor. Basically the characters are pretty two-dimensional but hey studios aren't that good at making comic book movies IMO!!!

OOPs i forgot to mention the soundtrack that alone is good enough for me to pick X3!!

 

[The Original Bamfer]

On one hand they are all disappointments because of their flaws, missed opportunities and cuz they are all XMINOs (hence the need for a whole new "movieverse" as opposed to simply a new "continuity.") However they all have good moments too so I look at the glass half full and like them all!!

But if I had to pick one it would definitely be X3 cuz it has....
MORE
fun, life, energy, visual appeal, teamwork, humor, exploration of "good" characters' dark sides, interesting catalyst for conflict than a machine...

and LESS
whininess, angst, "character development" aka boring chitchats with trite pathos/cliches thrown in, Lifetime/SciFi Channel feel, self-absorption, Singeristic dullness/dreariness, "Have you ever tried not being a mutant?", jellyfish, N*SYNC.

P.S. None of the movies really have any significant amount of *real* character development other than X3/Phoenix/Professor. Basically the characters are pretty two-dimensional but hey studios aren't that good at making comic book movies IMO!!!

OOPs i forgot to mention the soundtrack that alone is good enough for me to pick X3!!

(See Bold) Very nice point.

 

[BMM]

I can remember reading an interview and Hugh Jackman said that it was FOX that decided that the cure storyline would be the main focus in X3. Kinberg and Penn were just writing what FOX had wanted.

Yep. After he booted Singer, Rothman had no other ideas (that's pretty sad, especially considering the setup at the end of X2. I guess they don't know much about the X-Men). The Cure storyline was a last resort.


This is the abstract of the original New York Times article . . .
http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F60D14FE38550C718DDDAF0894DE404482

. . . and this is a link to the article in full.
http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/06/13/business/fox.php

 

[The Shredder]

1. X-Men
2. X-Men III
3. X2