F'dup Chapters in American History(The Trump Years) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 29

[DJ Kornphlake]

 

[samsnee]

Expect Cheetoh to tweet how he knows more than the military

Marine Corps commandant says deploying troops to the border poses ‘unacceptable risk’

 

[samsnee]

I wish there was a video

 

[Marvolo]

Its insane how incapable he is to accept any blame. Wtf does he do when be stubs his toe and no one else is around to blame? Does he blame invisible fairies that moved the furniture?

 

[squeekness]

Its insane how incapable he is to accept any blame. Wtf does he do when be stubs his toe and no one else is around to blame? Does he blame invisible fairies that moved the furniture?

He probably thinks Obama put a voodoo on him.

 

[Sithborg]

I wish there was a video

There likely is. Sadly, not one likely to be made public.

 

[MaceB]

sigh

Ignore that the Dems were able to flip 7 governor's seats. Quite a few in the states that he won. Even ignoring the uncertainty of Florida at the moment, as no one knows how such a large influx of voters will affect things, the three key states Trump won are not likely to go to him. Add in some other factors, and I think he is going to have a tougher time than you might think.

That's not to say not to take him for granted, of course.

Nearly every first term president suffers losses in the midterms. Maybe this was a larger loss than some, but I wouldn’t look at the midterms as a lock on the idea that republicans will lose in ‘20.

I’m sure he’ll have a tough time and it’ll be tight.. but Trump’s popoularity is roughly the same as it was when he was elected. And incumbents do tend to have an advantage when it comes to getting re-elected. Assume he’s the likely winner, and plan accordingly.

 

[Fading]

On paper, I see a Trump win being difficult. He barely eeked out a win against a very unpopular candidate that even her own party hated. He lost the popular vote by 3 million, plus only won electorally by 80,000 votes spread out over a couple of swing states. Since then, he has gotten more unpopular, and got caught up in many scandals.

That's on paper. Reality hasn't exactly been following a logical conclusion as of late. The surest way to make sure he doesn't win is to put forward a good candidate that everyone unites against now sooner than later. The other is to vote. Don't become complacent, and assume Trump's losing. Too many assumed that the first time.

It also probably wouldn't hurt if the candidate going against him is strong mentally. Trump has proven he will say anything. I fully expect lies, and insults to be spewed from Trump daily about the democrat choice. If they're too silent he will completely control the narrative, and the mainstream media will be more than happy to give him the air time to do it as it pulls in ratings.

 

[DeadPresident]

The Dems seem to have a pathological aversion to actually supporting their own candidates. They need to all just get behind the person with the best chance of beating Trump and then vocal minorities in the Dem camp should avoid making a mountain out of a molehill if some irrelevant past transgression comes out about them.

 

[samsnee]

His popularity remains the same overall but I wish I could see a breakdown by state. Since he won by only a handful of votes in each swing state, that's where it makes the difference. I think he will probably still win Florida, as it is starting to lean more right and out of swing state territory. But will be interesting to see how the blue wall states vote this time.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

The Republicans in the 2002 midterms and Bush squeaked by in 2004 due to the 9/11 terrorist incident. Else they would have been in way more trouble if not a loss on both fronts. People were also stupified enough in that time to back invading and occupying Iraq as rational.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

The Dems seem to have a pathological aversion to actually supporting their own candidates. They need to all just get behind the person with the best chance of beating Trump and then vocal minorities in the Dem camp should avoid making a mountain out of a molehill if some irrelevant past transgression comes out about them.

Racism, sexism, are irrelevant past transgressions?

 

[samsnee]

Remember, our brave leader said they are a small group not worth worrying about. Remind me again when was the last time schools had to shut down because of a threat from a Muslim group?

 

[DarthSkywalker]

His popularity remains the same overall but I wish I could see a breakdown by state. Since he won by only a handful of votes in each swing state, that's where it makes the difference. I think he will probably still win Florida, as it is starting to lean more right and out of swing state territory. But will be interesting to see how the blue wall states vote this time.

Florida just gained back a lot of minority votes do to the law they passed during the midterms.

 

[Schlosser85]

Racism, sexism, are irrelevant past transgressions?

What Democratic candidates have racism and sexism come out about?

 

[samsnee]

Florida just gained back a lot of minority votes do to the law they passed during the midterms.

You’re talking about restoring voting rights to people released from prison? The republican legislature is already trying to undo that and make it harder for them to vote. Just like in Wisconsin and North Carolina, they have no problem undermining the people’s choices.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

What Democratic candidates have racism and sexism come out about?

Well Biden's past on certain topics, specifically Anita Hill to busing, aren't great.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

You’re talking about restoring voting rights to people released from prison? The republican legislature is already trying to undo that and make it harder for them to vote. Just like in Wisconsin and North Carolina, they have no problem undermining the people’s choices.

They can try. Let's see what happens first.

 

[Silvermoon]

Lets see, some AP News:

So the media is the one that's 'forced' Trump to talk about McCain?
AP FACT CHECK: Trump blames media for his McCain rant

Trump blames Fed for holding back economic growth in 2018

White House rejects request for Trump, Putin communications

Trump intensifies effort to discredit Mueller report

Then perhaps not Trump directly, but regarding his administration and their "pro-drilling" stance:

Tribes urge US to ban drilling around sacred New Mexico site

This is a tweet that caught my eye this morning, because, you know, of COURSE Trump is more knowledgeable than experts

 

[MaceB]

Well Biden's past on certain topics, specifically Anita Hill to busing, aren't great.

This is a great example of making a mountain out of a molehill. Why liberals feel the need to destroy each other, I’ll never know. Only the purist will do I guess.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

This is a great example of making a mountain out of a molehill. Why liberals feel the need to destroy each other, I’ll never know. Only the purist will do I guess.

That's nice. It's almost like Biden is the only choice... oh he isn't? The Democratic party has the ability to actually pick someone worth the effort?

I love how these are molehills, especially as we just lived through Anita Hill 2.0. Also the issue of segregation in schools is still a real issue with the very real concept of, "we should fix it, but leave our schools alone" in many places. I am sure Harris record as my state's AG doesn't matter either.

The idea of the purity test is one thing. Fundamental issues should not be ignored. This is what happened in 2016, and then look at how many stayed at home. You want to tell progressives, who are leading the push for on the Left, that they have to vote for someone like Biden, good luck. Those that voted for Trump last time aren't going to change their mind. Biden is such a status quo pick, it is begging progressives and liberals to reject him. Which means you are kissing the young vote goodbye.

 

[squeekness]

Remember, our brave leader said they are a small group not worth worrying about. Remind me again when was the last time schools had to shut down because of a threat from a Muslim group?

Geez...... I had no idea this was going on.

 

[MaceB]

That's nice. It's almost like Biden is the only choice... oh he isn't? The Democratic party has the ability to actually pick someone worth the effort?

I love how these are molehills, especially as we just lived through Anita Hill 2.0. Also the issue of segregation in schools is still a real issue with the very real concept of, "we should fix it, but leave our schools alone" in many places. I am sure Harris record as my state's AG doesn't matter either.

The idea of the purity test is one thing. Fundamental issues should not be ignored. This is what happened in 2016, and then look at how many stayed at home. You want to tell progressives, who are leading the push for on the Left, that they have to vote for someone like Biden, good luck. Those that voted for Trump last time aren't going to change their mind. Biden is such a status quo pick, it is begging progressives and liberals to reject him. Which means you are kissing the young vote goodbye.

You do have the right to choose whoever you want... there are multiple choices and if you think someone is better... great. But to say Biden is a sexist or a racist because of one set of comments or one policy choice 3 decades back is disengenuois. Like, Biden is sitting in the back going, “yes - finally! I’ve fought for equal rights the majority of my career, and now I can blow off some steam by saying what I actually think!” ... come on.
You don’t need to like him. But you don’t need to make his mistakes tantamount to sexism either. It’s exactly what we did to Hillary. She wasn’t perfect, but she was still a calm, deliberative stateswoman who wanted to do good.

The Anita hill testimony is not a fundamental issue. It’s a pet issue, used to throw mud against a candidate you don’t prefer. It’s okay for someone to be a decent person, but simply not your top pick,

 

[DarthSkywalker]

You do have the right to choose whoever you want... there are multiple choices and if you think someone is better... great. But to say Biden is a sexist or a racist because of one set of comments or one policy choice 3 decades back is disengenuois. Like, Biden is sitting in the back going, “yes - finally! I’ve fought for equal rights the majority of my career, and now I can blow off some steam by saying what I actually think!” ... come on.
You don’t need to like him. But you don’t need to make his mistakes tantamount to sexism either. It’s exactly what we did to Hillary. She wasn’t perfect, but she was still a calm, deliberative stateswoman who wanted to do good.

The Anita hill testimony is not a fundamental issue. It’s a pet issue, used to throw mud against a candidate you don’t prefer. It’s okay for someone to be a decent person, but simply not your top pick,

There is more then that to Biden. But I didn't call him sexist or racist. But both of those situations are example of racism and sexism practiced by him. Would you like to explain how they aren't? And consider what just happened with the Supreme Court, the idea of what he did to Anita Hill being a "pet issue" is laughable imo. Especially in the MeToo era.

Also what about being okay with segregation, fighting for it, is okay?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...ory.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.a74a96e4e055

I am not a big fan of Bernie the person, but one thing I quite like about him, is how he has pretty much stayed the same. He didn't shift his position along with many Democrats as time went on. When it was "safe". That is who he has been.

 

[Donner]

I was okay with Biden as a person until I saw the video compilation of him around children and he's very...handsy.