Infinity War Feats & Power Displays in Avengers: Infinity War

[KRYPTON INC.]

Unless Sam flying through the air somehow makes him stronger and more durable than an Asgardian I just... I am sorry I just have to call ******** on that.

 

[BigThor]

Unless Sam flying through the air somehow makes him stronger and more durable than an Asgardian I just... I am sorry I just have to call ******** on that.

Yeah it was definitely ********

But Proxima hasn't been shown to be stronger or more durable than an Asgardian. If you're referring to the fact that they defeated the Asgardians, well Thanos with the Power Stone, Ebony Maw, and Cull Obsidian probably did most of the work.

Also while Corvus Glaive's glaive was very powerful since it easily pierced Vision and deflect his energy blast, Glaive and Proxima's physical stats don't seem to match up with their weapons.

Glaive physically might match up since he was grappling with Vision who even heavily injured should still be strong af. But Proxima has shown nothing that puts here near Asgardian strength and durability, especially when she fought Okoye and Black Widow.

 

[KevTravels]

Unless Sam flying through the air somehow makes him stronger and more durable than an Asgardian I just... I am sorry I just have to call ******** on that.

why? It's not as if he went toe-to-toe with her. He simply flew in and surprised her and kicked her onto her butt.

Call BS on Black Widow seeming to defeat her in hand-to-hand combat.

 

[ohiostate124]

why? It's not as if he went toe-to-toe with her. He simply flew in and surprised her and kicked her onto her butt.

Call BS on Black Widow seeming to defeat her in hand-to-hand combat.

I think people expect these alien characters to be Superman-like in that if they get hit, they’ll just stand there as if nothing happening. Falcon launching himself into Proxima and knocking her over is completely fine. It’s not as if that hurt her at all.

 

[terry78]

I think it just seems inconsistent since these are Thanos' generals who have helped him take out entire races. Now suddenly three non powered humans are kicking the **** out of them, lol.

 

[AndrewGilkison]

Captain America is not a "non-powered human" in the MCU. Black Widow has gone toe to toe with aliens and robots in the MCU.

 

[terry78]

Yeah, you're right about Cap, I keep forgetting his abilities. He definitely could've handled himself among them, but Widow is a little iffy.

 

[RoastBeast]

In my head I imagine Odin looking into it being made while foreseeing the threat of Thanos before being interrupted by the whole "Loki swap" thing took place.

But it would have been done if it was that far back, in my head. Look how quickly it was finished when the forge was re-started. I got the impression that Thanos interrupted its making. I'm wondering if Loki didn't order it made while Odin, knowing that Thanos wanted him dead, and he had an infinity stone.

And this goes back to TR: Why didn't Odin mention this upcoming mess to Thor? (I was thinking this morning, that maybe the re-do of the New York alley scene in Ragnarok wasn't so much for that movie's purposes, but it might have messed up continuity for IW and A4. maybe. So we got vanilla Norway scene instead and have never been shown the original even on bluray)

 

[BigThor]

Captain America is not a "non-powered human" in the MCU. Black Widow has gone toe to toe with aliens and robots in the MCU.

Yeah but barely holding down a helicopter shouldn't put you on the level of Thanos's generals who help kill half entire planets.

Black Widow has gone toe to toe with cannon fodder aliens and robots that break apart like toys.

 

[spider-neil]

People keep thinking of the 616 Captain America. The 616 Cap can't keep up with cars or hold a helicopter in place with one arm.

 

[AndrewGilkison]

Yeah but barely holding down a helicopter shouldn't put you on the level of Thanos's generals who help take off entire races.

Black Widow has gone toe to toe with cannon fodder aliens and robots that break apart like toys.

Unlike the Asguardian ship, Thanos wasn't there with the Power Stone and a big ass spaceship to give Glaive and Midnight help in taking on Cap.
[BLACKOUT]
But we also saw Thanos have four Infinity Stones and Cap was able to hold the Gauntlet Arm at bay, and Cap survived a shot to the face by Thanos. He could do that but yet you think him being able to take on the Black Order is not possible? [/BLACKOUT]

 

[Iceman]

Widow was fast enough to avoid getting hurt (believable) and only managed to hurt them with one of their own weapons. That is the big weakness of these guys that I don't particularly like. That anyone can wield their weapons and hurt them with them (unlike Thor's weapons or the gauntlet with stones).

 

[SPO2 Dalisay]

Widow was fast enough to avoid getting hurt (believable) and only managed to hurt them with one of their own weapons. That is the big weakness of these guys that I don't particularly like. That anyone can wield their weapons and hurt them with them (unlike Thor's weapons or the gauntlet with stones).

Or if a super powered holds it the weapon becomes super like an Asgradian holding a terrain rifle

 

[BigThor]

Unlike the Asguardian ship, Thanos wasn't there with the Power Stone and a big ass spaceship to give Glaive and Midnight help in taking on Cap.

True, good point I fully agree.

[BLACKOUT]
But we also saw Thanos have four Infinity Stones and Cap was able to hold the Gauntlet Arm at bay, and Cap survived a shot to the face by Thanos. He could do that but yet you think him being able to take on the Black Order is not possible? [/BLACKOUT]

We don't know how much effort Thanos put into pushing Cap and we don't know much force Thanos put into that punch. But we also saw the guy EASILY overpower Hulk in a pure strength contest and KO him earlier in the film so we know it was far less than what he's capable of.

Remember, everyone survived being hit by Thanos and some of which was either flat out PIS (Star Lord, Mantis, Cap etc.) or Thanos simply varied the amount of force in his striking power. Since NONE of those character should survive hits that slept the Hulk.

 

[samsnee]

Spider-man kicking Thanos in the face is something I never thought I would see on the big screen.

 

[terry78]

It hasn't been officially stated but I assume they're using his power set level of being able to lift 10 tons in the MCU regarding Spidey.

 

[BigThor]

It hasn't been officially stated but I assume they're using his power set level of being able to lift 10 tons in the MCU regarding Spidey.

I think it's his 25 ton comic book strength level, because in Civil War that airport structure he caught was 27 tons and it was just a little to much for him.

Which means MCU Spider-Man has the most accurate CBM strength level of all time.

Bravo Marvel Studios and Russos bros, bravo!

 

[warhorse78]

Yeah, you're right about Cap, I keep forgetting his abilities. He definitely could've handled himself among them, but Widow is a little iffy.

Widow has been doing feats that in real life, a human would have been dead a long time ago. I still have to suspend my disbelief in the first Avengers when she jumps onto the alien aircraft and doesn't fly off with all of her acrobatics.

 

[Guard82]

Bruce wearing the Hulkbuster armor and fighting Cull Obsidian in Wakanda, then trapping Obsidian in the suit's gauntlet, launching the thruster, and sending Obsidian flying into the Wakandan force field and killing him.

I also liked Scarlet Witch, Black Widow, and Okoye fighting Proxima Midnight together, with Scarlet Witch delivering the killing blow to Proxima by throwing her in front of one of Thanos' war machines.

 

[BigThor]

Bruce wearing the Hulkbuster armor and fighting Cull Obsidian in Wakanda, then trapping Obsidian in the suit's gauntlet, launching the thruster, and sending Obsidian flying into the Wakandan force field and killing him.

Yep it really made Banner not seem "useless" in a fight for a change, I liked it.

 

[warhorse78]

Yep it really made Banner not seem "useless" in a fight for a change, I liked it.

Personally, I really have come to admire Banner, because he seems to be the most human amongst all of the Avengers when he's not Hulk.

 

[Ragnaroknroll]

Unlike the Asguardian ship, Thanos wasn't there with the Power Stone and a big ass spaceship to give Glaive and Midnight help in taking on Cap.
[BLACKOUT]
But we also saw Thanos have four Infinity Stones and Cap was able to hold the Gauntlet Arm at bay, and Cap survived a shot to the face by Thanos. He could do that but yet you think him being able to take on the Black Order is not possible? [/BLACKOUT]

One of my biggest beefs with IW is how

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Cap survives that punch. Ridiculous.

But I'm a fan of the idea that it actually

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killed Steve but when Thanos rolled back time to restore the mind gem Cap's death was rolled back also.

Don't really care if anyone agrees with me though. LOL

 

[BigThor]

One of my biggest beefs with IW is how

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Cap survives that punch. Ridiculous.

But I'm a fan of the idea that it actually

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killed Steve but when Thanos rolled back time to restore the mind gem Cap's death was rolled back also.

Don't really care if anyone agrees with me though. LOL

I chalk it up to Thanos not wanting to kill Cap, just wanting to knock him out of the way.

 

[gurkle]

I feel like a lot of things can be chalked up to Thanos not wanting to kill unless he has to. It's important to his self-definition that killing half the universe at random is OK, but killing someone without a good reason would just make him feel like he was a bad person.

This also allows for the argument that any time he seemed to be vulnerable, it was because he wasn't doing everything he could do.

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This is most evident in his battle against Scarlet Witch; it's not clear exactly how vulnerable he is to her or if he's using more than one stone, but you can assume that if he couldn't just turn back the clock he would have simply killed her before she could finish. I don't think he was toying with her to cause her more emotional pain, because again, that would be cruel and Thanos doesn't think he's cruel. He just knew that he didn't have to fight her at full strength.

Of course I'm biased because I don't want any of my favorite heroes to be too powerful. So I tend to go for the reading that Thanos was holding back. This also helps answer the question "Where do they go after Thanos?" Probably someone who actually doesn't think he's a good guy and is willing to kill heroes for the fun of it.

 

[terry78]

That may have been taken from the book where he gives them a sporting chance because it would impress Death.