FF2 will look rather basic compared to Spidey 3

[Kevin Roegele]

NOT A CRITICISM

Given the incredibly expensive and spectacular action of Spidey 3, I can't help but feel FF2 is going to look pretty cheap and basic in comparison.

Not that it will stop me from watching the movie on the day of release as I believe it's going to be great.

 

[Sentinel X]

Do we live in a alternate universe ..spider-man 3 sucked last time I checked it out
And I know FF wasnt the best superhero movie but I doubt FF2 will look bland comparing to spidey

 

[phoenixflight]

Spider-Man 3 cost $350 million to produce and distribute. It doesn't 'look' like the most expensive movie ever made. None of the action sequences were 'nothing we have never seen before'. I don't thing that FF2 will 'look or feel' any less expensive.

 

[Mr. Socko]

So we won't have 20 sub-plots that feels like cake stuck between our asses!


Good!

 

[Malus]

Do we live in a alternate universe ..spider-man 3 sucked last time I checked it out

It was a big let-down to me and at least three of my long-time Spidey-loving buddies, too. Not that it's a bad film. I just think once the excitement has settled down, it will be considered by most to be the least of the three Spider-man films.

As far as having a "basic" look-The final FF trailer looks pretty freakin' nice. There may not be as many money shots as we saw in Spidey 3, but it looks like the ones we will see will be up to snuff with Spidey 3, and a damn sight better than anything we saw in FF1.

I still think it will fall far short of what we know an FF film can be, but I doubt those who turn out will be very disappointed. Not if they enjoyed FF1 at all.

Basic? Yeah, probably. But that's not always such a bad thing in my opinion. A solid story and credible characterization can't make up for bad FX, but if the story is solid and people have a good time...

I'm not at all worried about the success of FF-Surfer at this point. There's a buzz going for this movie that far exceeds what I saw/heard for FF1.
It may not break any box office records, but it will do quite well (considerably better than FF1 I believe) and I'm fairly certain we'll be seeing FF3 in 2009 or 2010.

And then one day, probably a few months after I die or lose my sight, we'll finally get the Fantastic Four movie that coulda/shoulda been.

In the meantime, I'm going to enjoy these movies as best I can.
They aren't perfect, but they could be sooo much worse.

 

[Kevin Roegele]

Okay then, let's compare FF2 to Spidey 2; I doubt we'll see a fight scene as spectacular as any between Spidey and Doc Ock.

 

[Grog]

I think it is a little premature to compare an unreleased film to Spidey 2.

 

[Carp Man]

Let's remember they spent, by their own admission $ 258 million. FF 2 will spend nowhere near that much, so yes it should look kind of basic, compaired to Spider-Man 3.

 

[highguard]

Okay then, let's compare FF2 to Spidey 2; I doubt we'll see a fight scene as spectacular as any between Spidey and Doc Ock.

Interesting question, lets see. What in any of the spiderman movies compares to what we have seen so far like the car splitting up. The spectacular holes in the earth. The torch falling from space. Heck that was the second biggest money shot in SR. We get that close to the film's opening.

Then you have the surfer tossing a mountain at the four.

This movie is on another level as far as eye candy. Epic is the word here.
I think Spiderman is not the movie to compare it with. I know the numbers are staggering but the cinematogrpahy is all different.

It is a different type of action. That was the case even in the comic books. What we are looking at here is action that is earth shattering, literally.

You really have to compare it with superman which has similar big scale scenes and threats like the continent coming out of the ocean.

And FF2 looks to have that beaten from the opeining chase scene which was better than anything we saw in that movie. What we have seen so far looks far from basic. Stylistically this movie looks like it will be the best eye candy this summer

Ok, there I just had to get it out. I hope that answers your question.

 

[Closerframe]

I think FF2 will be better than Spidey 3 like 300 was better.

 

[Agent 194]

Have to admit I disgree. Money doesn't necessarily equal substance. And from my point of view, from what I saw from Spider-man 3, was not substance. It was greed and misplaced, uninformed rhetoric. I think FF 2 looks much more substantive and much more promising. There. I've cast my vote.

 

[blind_fury]

Audiences don't care about technical details.

Night at the Museum made 250 million.

They just want to kill a couple of hours away from the house before they have to back to their boring lives.

 

[Agent 194]

Don't even get me started with that Ben Stiller. He gets to be friends with all the childhood heroes that I grew up with too. And I don't think he's that talented.

 

[redlion2]

I'm a big Marvel fan and personally I liked Spiderman 3. The group that saw the film with me thought it was the best of the franchise.

When I go in to see FF2, I won't even have the mind-set as to whether FF2 looks basic compared to SM3. It's possible that could end up happening but I'm looking to have a completely different experience with a completely different film.

I liked FF1 overall, even with it's obvious faults and if FF2 turns out to be an improvement over FF1, then it's all good for me. That's the film I'll be comparing FF2 with.

 

[Carp Man]

Have to admit I disgree. Money doesn't necessarily equal substance. And from my point of view, from what I saw from Spider-man 3, was not substance. It was greed and misplaced, uninformed rhetoric. I think FF 2 looks much more substantive and much more promising. There. I've cast my vote.

We agree 100 %. FF will be much better then Spider-Man 3, even thou not as much money was spent. You can throw a ton of money into a film, that doesn't mean it will work. SR is the poster boy for what happens when you throw money into a film, and it does not appreal to audiences. Spider-Man 3 will make a ton of money not because it is as good as the 1st 2,( which it is clearly not ), but because it may be the last in the series, and it has lots of appeal.

 

[Malus]

We agree 100 %. FF will be much better then Spider-Man 3, even thou not as much money was spent. You can throw a ton of money into a film, that doesn't mean it will work. SR is the poster boy for what happens when you throw money into a film, and it does not appreal to audiences. Spider-Man 3 will make a ton of money not because it is as good as the 1st 2,( which it is clearly not ), but because it may be the last in the series, and it has lots of appeal.

Oh, it's not the last. I think a fourth film was a done deal before Spidey 3 even opened here. And after a 151 million dollar opening, you can be sure there will be a Spiderman 4 - even if they have to re-cast everyone with sock puppets. t:
Everyone will be back, though. They're not gonna walk away from that kind of money.

 

[Agent 194]

I disagree. Or rather this is my optimistic hope for the future--I hope they go a whole new cast, whole new direction (sans the skinny ankles that artists of today draw) whole new director...and thusly a less weepy,less teary eyed, bore of a movie.

I think I'm on record in other threads saying I never liked Raimi's vision or sensibilities towards the project.

 

[Kelly]

We agree 100 %. FF will be much better then Spider-Man 3, even thou not as much money was spent. You can throw a ton of money into a film, that doesn't mean it will work. SR is the poster boy for what happens when you throw money into a film, and it does not appreal to audiences. Spider-Man 3 will make a ton of money not because it is as good as the 1st 2,( which it is clearly not ), but because it may be the last in the series, and it has lots of appeal.

It's not the last one...

And you saying FF2 will be better than SM3 is just as doofus of statement as those that say it will suck like the first....

No one knows at this point, no one has seen it.

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

Okay then, let's compare FF2 to Spidey 2; I doubt we'll see a fight scene as spectacular as any between Spidey and Doc Ock.

But we don't need to see one Kevin.

The Fantastic Four are not angst-ridden, revenge-roiling crimefighters with EMO chips on their shoulders. They are a family of scientists, imaginauts and explorers. And while they may roll their sleeves up to get down and dirty every once in a while, kicking asses are not their specialty--and never have. They only use force when it's necessary. Peter Parker went looking for trouble in SM3--the FF don't share a similar motivation.

Let's rememeber that at the end of the day, Reed, Susan, Benjamin and Johnny are kinda like intergalactic diplomats--and their missions should reflect that.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

I think visual simplicity can be a very good thing. Compare the original Star Wars to some of the later films. When the spaceships fly overhead in the original, they seem to have importance and mass, but in later films, when there are 100 ships all buzzing around, it just becomes a cacophony.

Also consider M. Night Shyamalan's (sp?) "Signs" vs. "Independence Day". While Signs had it's own flaws, I thought the intensity that MNS brought to the screen gave much more of a sense of danger than Independance Day with much, MUCH simpler visuals.

One other example: Take $50 million dollars away from Peter Jackson when he was making King Kong, and you could have had a much better film. If some of his expensive CGI "action" scenes had been cut, the film could have been much better than it was.

Now the last thing I want is to get into a Spider-Man vs. FF battle. I love FF and I like Spider-man, but comparing trailer to trailer (since we don't have the whole FF film yet) I thought the visuals of the FF trailers we've seen looked much better than the visuals for Spidey. The FF visuals look grand, but relatively simple, linear and easy to follow. The scenes in the Spider-man trailer (I'm particularly thinking of the Pete Vs. Harry scenes I've seen) looked hectic and "noisy".

So yes, I hope FF will look rather basic compared to Spidey, but we'll see how well they can pull it off on screen. Personally, based on both books, I thought the FF story was far better than the Spidey story.

 

[GoblinScrier]

I think we will see some spectacular fight sequences especially when the Silver Surfer goes against the military like in the trailer or

Spoiler

when Doom absorbs the power cosmic that should be a grand moment in terms of great battle sequences like when Doom starts tossing around the Great Wall of China.

 

[Spider - Man]

It's not the last one...

And you saying FF2 will be better than SM3 is just as doofus of statement as those that say it will suck like the first....

No one knows at this point, no one has seen it.

'Doofus of a statement'...LOL! Good one!

 

[fantastic fifth]

The Fantastic Four are not angst-ridden, revenge-roiling crimefighters with EMO chips on their shoulders. They are a family of scientists, imaginauts and explorers. And while they may roll their sleeves up to get down and dirty every once in a while, kicking asses are not their specialty--and never have. They only use force when it's necessary. Peter Parker went looking for trouble in SM3--the FF don't share a similar motivation.

Let's rememeber that at the end of the day, Reed, Susan, Benjamin and Johnny are kinda like intergalactic diplomats--and their missions should reflect that.

Very well said.

 

[Kelly]

'Doofus of a statement'...LOL! Good one!

Thank you.....I'm here all day........

 

[Kelly]

But we don't need to see one Kevin.

The Fantastic Four are not angst-ridden, revenge-roiling crimefighters with EMO chips on their shoulders. They are a family of scientists, imaginauts and explorers. And while they may roll their sleeves up to get down and dirty every once in a while, kicking asses are not their specialty--and never have. They only use force when it's necessary. Peter Parker went looking for trouble in SM3--the FF don't share a similar motivation.

Let's rememeber that at the end of the day, Reed, Susan, Benjamin and Johnny are kinda like intergalactic diplomats--and their missions should reflect that.

Hands Caliph his cookie for the day!!!!!!!!!!