Firefly's Fillion Moves into Castle

[Quasimod0]

I loved tonight's episode!

 

[Mani-Man]

Yeah, the episode was really good imo.
It felt very much like castle in its earlier seasons.

But the whole overall plot of the season, would have worked soo much better in one of the previous seasons, now beckett just seems like she is a stubborn fool to me.

 

[Legendver2]

I'm gonna wait out this season until the mid-season break to see if there are any positive turn ups. The plot device seems tacked on, they're still working together, so it makes no difference. And she's not even going all in into this thing. Castle's stepmom implied that if she wanted to go all in, she'll have to give up her life like she did, and more or less go Jason Bourne. Which makes no sense at the moment since she just gave up (not really) on Castle by leaving the house, which is....nothing. She's STILL part of the precinct, she's still married to him, only difference is she lives separately. As if villains would care if that makes a difference. As long as he's still part of her life, he's still in "danger", and by her not being there in the frontline to protect him, won't he be in even more danger now since she's not there to keep an eye on him. The whole device of her needing-to-leave-him-but-not-really is so stupid.

 

[Hunter Rider]

This weeks ep was really good but the forced seperation stuff is not fdoing either character any good, it makes Kate look illogical and Castle's reaction makes even less sense. He keeps saying she's left him and wants to make her fall in love again, yet she has stated repeatedly that she loves him, just needs space and that it's about her.

What is doubly silly is that for a guy that is so smart and even noted the change in her when he said "I've seen that look before" has not come to the conclusion that Kate's sudden choice is related to what happened regarding Bracken's mystery partner, I mean he thrives on conspiracy theories and yet he doesn't suspect the agent that conveniently committed suicide when she could have made her way out of the country. might be a patsy?

On the plus side I am loving the extara focus Alexis is getting, Molly Quinn is really good and is shining in the expanded role as her Dad's new crime solving partner.

 

[Dark Raven]

Yes, it's good to have Alexis playing a more integral role. Hopefully she'll be more involved in the cases from now on. But what happened to her studies? Isn't she still at university? How does she have all this time to help, unless she dropped out, or has she finished? Is it like Smallville where Clark Kent never attended classes and then it was all eventually forgotten about as he began working for the daily planet?

And I agree that the episode was good, but that the separation felt forced and unnecessary. Instead of trying to win her back, how come Castle isn't snooping around to find out what is actually going on?

 

[Loki882]

I'm kind of not feeling the "conspiracy" angle on the whole. I mean don't get me wrong, I love a good "mystery conspiracy" plot as much as the next person, more so probably. But I'm just not seeing why Beckett's mom getting killed even NEEDS to be some gigantic shadowy conspiracy? It seems so, forced. Like they just wanted to keep "Beckett's obsession with mommy's death" going and are contriving ways to do so.

Seriously, Bracken being responsible was fine. "Corrupt politician has journalist killed in order to try and cover up his misdeeds" works perfectly fine as the "answer." And his arrest/death should have been the end of it. Now, it's just getting tedious (and making both Castle and Beckett look bad in the process).

 

[Dark Raven]

They probably don't even know who is behind the conspiracy and haven't plotted out that far ahead. It's probably going to turn out to be really lame and less impactful than Bracken being behind it. Just like when we "finally" learned what happened when Castle was missing for several months, it was a bit of an anti-climax, as if they hadn't really thought it through properly but were just making it up as they went along.

 

[Teelie]

Does it seem obvious to anyone else that Vikram Singh is really working for someone else and keeping Beckett in the dark that he isn't really working only with her? He wouldn't be working with the mystery drug cartel but he might be working for a rival group or another one of the alphabet agencies to weed out the moles.

Otherwise I agree with the above. This seperation feels artificial and unnecessary but it is good to see Alexis helping out with the cases. Gives her more to do than just be kind of floating around the background.

 

[aNarcHy2day]

Nice episode this week. It had a more playful nature compared to the other episodes this season but it was well done. And someone became a

Spoiler

Sergeant. It's PARTY TIME!

 

[blksuperman2]

So Beckett's in charge of a whole precinct but still just acts like a detective? I'm not liking the writing at all this season or the direction. At least the comedic elements are still on par.

 

[Mani-Man]

So Beckett's in charge of a whole precinct but still just acts like a detective? I'm not liking the writing at all this season or the direction. At least the comedic elements are still on par.

Yup, You could argue that she picks out on which cases she works on, but it still makes no real sense.
It would help if they would show her doing a bit more as captain, but she is basicly just a detective currently.

The whole "break up" story was this week bad again, last week it wasnt that bad.
It is such a dumb reason and all...im just waiting for the moment one of them brings up divorce papers.
Spanning this storyline over a whole season, would be extremely tedious.

 

[Teelie]

I don't know how common it is in reality (I imagine it doesn't happen often, what with all the duties a rank of capitan brings) but having the capitan of a precinct doing the occasional case isn't unheard of in television. Every week though is different though.

The seperation thing would have been fine for two or three episodes but they are stretching it out too far. If they try to do this the entire season I imagine it will be the end of the series.

 

[Quasimod0]

Like others have said, I'm loving the humor this season. But I'm not liking the Beckett nonsense.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Yeah, I am really enjoying the episodes outside of the Beckett/Castle nonsense.

 

[PyroChamber]

This season has showed me that Beckett just can't let **** go.

 

[blksuperman2]

But she has to realize that she can't figure it out w/o Castle. She spent decades looking into her mother's killer and only started unraveling things when she finally let Castle in. It's just utter nonsense and completely out of character for her. It's even more annoying when every week Castle says "Beckett needs to remember that we are better at solving cases when we're together." Aah duh.

 

[Dark Raven]

Well this week's Castle was boring and rather mundane. Has Adam Baldwin's character played before? I get the feeling he has. He was rather annoying, and I think I recall him being equally annoying last time. I didn't like the Castle/Slaughter dynamic and found it tedious.

I think that Beckett is more integral to the show than we might otherwise think. In episodes where Castle doesn't play as much, the show still is strong even with Beckett featuring as the lead, whereas I don't quite feel it is the same the other way round. At least if Beckett weren't playing, they should've had Castle with Alexis, which would've been far more interesting.

I think this has gone on long enough and they need to put Castle and Beckett back together again. This was a weak episode.

Anyone know why she didn't play at all this week? And why was there a 3 week break? You would've thought they would've had a Halloween episode, but they missed out on that completely.

 

[Dr Lee]

I heard rumours that Stana put it in her new contract that she'd be able to go to a fashion event/week somewhere and that meant she wouldn't come back with the rest after a filming break, but take a few days extra.

TBH, I've not watched the show since 802. I understand the ratings aren't just in the toilet, but the sewer... And NOTHING the show runners are saying about what's coming up has left me with any confidence they have any ****ing clue just how badly they've wrecked the show.

 

[Teelie]

It is quite likely this seperated (but not really) storyline has killed whatever ratings the series might otherwise have gotten. Looking at the ratings I'd say it was certain.

 

[Dark Raven]

Did they think that this separation would actually boost the ratings? If so, then they're idiots. And if they can see that it's having the opposite effect to what they intended, then they should remedy it as soon as possible, even if it means having to scrap certain episodes or rewrite them. They can't rigidly stick to a plan, especially when not all of the episodes are filmed yet anyway.

 

[Teelie]

This says it all. Season 8 premiere rating: 1.17 (-46.68% drop in the 18-49 demo) with 6.840 million viewers and an overall decline of -34.81%.

The most recent episode garnered a straight up 1.0 rating, 6.237 million total viewers.

Season 7 was averaging 1.57 rating in the 18-49 demographic with 8.47 million total viewers.

This is the end of the series at this point. Unless there is a dramatic ratings uptick they need to plan for the season finale to be the series finale.

 

[Dark Raven]

I would've preferred this series ended last season and Forever was picked up instead of being axed. It's not like Castle has been that great at all this season. Everything has been unnecessary and has in fact not worked. It has just limped on when it was strong last season. It feels like there's nothing more to tell about their story anymore and things are just being added for the sake of prolonging it, which is ending up counter productive.

 

[Hunter Rider]

I have to wonder if there is some truth in the rumoured falling out between Fillion and Stana, the silly split storyline followed by Castle partnering Slaughter and Alexis with Kate undercover next week with Hayley. It's like first they removed the need for them to do touchy feely scenes, now they are keeping them apart in general.

Maybe I'm off and the new creative team think they are building to some big pay-off, but if that is the case they don't even understand the show they are writing as Castle & Beckett together is the heart & soul of the show, the dynamic that makes it fun.

 

[Dark Raven]

What are they supposed to have fallen out over?

 

[Dr Lee]

The rumours suggested it was over Stana taking a long time to sign the new contract... Which makes her then signing completely mad.... If they hated each other then she should have just walked away from the show and forced it to end, thus meaning she wouldn't have to deal with him anymore & they could have left the show on the rather nice shot of them all around that table.

Castle has become a perfect example of how running a show too long can completely **** it up... And it's bloody horrible for those of us who have watched since the pilot...