Fixing Punisher:War Zone

[UnionJack]

Please no. One butchering was enough.

Come on!!!

War Zone wasn't a butchering compared to the others.

For me its the closest to Max comics.

 

[StreetWarrior]

Come on!!!

War Zone wasn't a butchering compared to the others.

For me its the closest to Max comics.

I'm a huge Punisher fan -- I own and have read EVERY issue printed-- and can say this: The film should be in no way associated with the Marvel comics character. The only thing it had in common with the MAX series was usage of profanity and gore (which was meant to be taken seriously in the books, not cartoony and over-the-top like the film) and stupid name-drops on characters that act NOTHING like their book counterparts. The film's tone matched that of the MARVEL KNIGHTS serious, not the incredibly dark and serious tone of the MAX series. Also, the MAX series was expertly written and thought-provoking, not this mindless gore-fest. Finally, how can ANY fan of the Punisher be okay with him killing an innocent?

I respect your opinion, man, but WARZONE was nothing like the books and made the Punisher into a joke.

 

[comicfan4Life]

I'm a huge Punisher fan -- I own and have read EVERY issue printed-- and can say this: The film should be in no way associated with the Marvel comics character. The only thing it had in common with the MAX series was usage of profanity and gore (which was meant to be taken seriously in the books, not cartoony and over-the-top like the film) and stupid name-drops on characters that act NOTHING like their book counterparts. The film's tone matched that of the MARVEL KNIGHTS serious, not the incredibly dark and serious tone of the MAX series. Also, the MAX series was expertly written and thought-provoking, not this mindless gore-fest. Finally, how can ANY fan of the Punisher be okay with him killing an innocent?

I respect your opinion, man, but WARZONE was nothing like the books and made the Punisher into a joke.

I agree, Punsher should never kill an innocent. This was an MK movie, and unfortunately that was the problem. Gore and the f word 100,000 times doesn't make a punisher movie. It would've been cool if the curse words and non-stop gore was in the vein of the Max books. But instead of getting welcome back frank MK, we got giant squid & mob boss living in underground subway in a huge body of homeless MK.

 

[S. Grundy]

And for all the **** the 2004 film gets, at least that one tried to interject some wit into it's dialogue/dark comedy (it was still hit or miss, but at least they seemed to try).

 

[comicfan4Life]

^I wanted to love the Stevenson flick. He had the look, the violence was there, the characters, the energizing rock music, the gunplay. I was hooked, then I saw it, and well... It's ironic that for all the hell the 04 movie went through, that was the closet punisher film to the number one mark at the Box Office. All LG had to do was move the hell away from Kill Bill 2 & Man on Fire, and it would've killed.

 

[UnionJack]

I'm a huge Punisher fan -- I own and have read EVERY issue printed-- and can say this: The film should be in no way associated with the Marvel comics character. The only thing it had in common with the MAX series was usage of profanity and gore (which was meant to be taken seriously in the books, not cartoony and over-the-top like the film) and stupid name-drops on characters that act NOTHING like their book counterparts. The film's tone matched that of the MARVEL KNIGHTS serious, not the incredibly dark and serious tone of the MAX series. Also, the MAX series was expertly written and thought-provoking, not this mindless gore-fest. Finally, how can ANY fan of the Punisher be okay with him killing an innocent?

I respect your opinion, man, but WARZONE was nothing like the books and made the Punisher into a joke.

Yea I totally see where your coming from with this, I did enjoy the film but I agree that the writing was poor.

I did like Rey he was a good Frank for me. Thomas was very good but for me was too .. I guess good looking. Rey looked more beaten and weathered if you get what I mean.

 

[CrimsonMist]

I did like Rey he was a good Frank for me. Thomas was very good but for me was too .. I guess good looking. Rey looked more beaten and weathered if you get what I mean.

That may have something to do with the fact that in War Zone, it's established that Frank has been killing for 5 years, whereas Tom Jane's Punisher became the Punisher in the last 15 minutes of the film.

 

[S. Grundy]

Here's a quote I came across from Frank Tieri, the writer for Punisher: Noir that I think applies to the 2004 film.

The story of Frank Castle, to me, can essentially be boiled down to one phrase: it’s a story about loss and a man’s response to that loss.

 

[SymbioteKal-El]

^Both Warzone and the '04 movie were about loss I suppose, in War Zone it was just more about the family of the FBI agent's loss more than Frank's though elements of Frank's loss were still in there.

 

[Bubonic]

Hopefully some ambitious director will see the potential of the MAX series and pitch it as an HBO show.

As a motion picture I don't think anyone will ever want to take the chance again due to the huge box office failures they all turned out to be, and the bad public opinion they've garnered.