Flight 93 (September 11th) Trailer

Greengrass is good, so it will probably be a well done film. It's probably too soon for most, but we'll see what happens.

These heroic Americans that sacrificed their lives to take these evil maniacs down deserve to be honored - I just don't know if making a film about them is the right way to do it........

Oliver Stone's and Adam Sandler's 9/11 projects are much, much different.
 
I really don't think this is a great idea, not because it's too soon or anything like that. I just don't know how if the material is strong enough for a feature film, movies about WW2 and Vietnam have conflict and there are so many stories that could be told about those events. Flight 93 doesn't really have that, the entire ordeal probably took about half and hour and it's about a bunch of people taking on 3-4 guys with boxcutters, the only reason the passengers didn't overrun the other flights was terrorists never used planes as weapons before, only as tools for negotiation. I'm not saying the people who overan the plane weren't good people for doing it, I just don't think there's a movie in the story.
 
This is a stupid idea. Any 9/11 movie is...to be honest, there isn't that much to do with it. Plane crashes into towers...plane crashes into PA field. Thats it. The most interesting way to apporach a 9/11 movie would be from the point of view of the hijackers who spent years training and preparing.

Instead the terrorists will be portrayed as uncivilized barbarians, the people on the plane as 2 dimensional action movie hero card board cut outs, and all the movie will really do is try to say "America is better than everyone". Plus I'm sure they'll add in stupid subplots about which passengers were sleeping together, and other bull****.
 
Timeline of flight http://dsc.discovery.com/convergence/flight/timeline/timeline.html

Its not for us now, its for people in the future, who were too young for 9/11 or those born after it. They can see the story of these heroes that prevented 9/11 from being a even darker day. They made a movie from the first WTC bombing not too long after it. Its just a historic, informative story, not a entertaining "must see" story on film.
 
Is this movie really necessary? The trailer made me feel awkward, I also think it's way to early.
 
Rock Strongo said:
Al Queda isn't out there doing anything. The Government just says they are, so they can arbitrarily attach them to a country, and then attack that country, and then not find weapons of mass destruction.

There is a difference between distructing Bush's PR steamroller, and being a bafoon. I bequeth you the second...my son?
 
I dont see what the big problem is. If you think you would feel uncomfortable watching then dont go see it.

As for it being too early to portray the stories from a historical event I think its just silly. Where is it written that you have to wait for a certain period.

Obviously there is a demand for the film otherwide I doubt Greengrass would have made it.

Sure the subject matter will hit pretty close to home for some people as some films do for me. I choose not to watch them is I feel that way about it.
 
Mentok said:
I dont see what the big problem is. If you think you would feel uncomfortable watching then dont go see it.

As for it being too early to portray the stories from a historical event I think its just silly. Where is it written that you have to wait for a certain period.

Obviously there is a demand for the film otherwide I doubt Greengrass would have made it.

Sure the subject matter will hit pretty close to home for some people as some films do for me. I choose not to watch them is I feel that way about it.

I don't really think it's too soon...I just don't think it is really movie material. Let the history books reflect the heroes of Flight 93...not some movie that will turn them into movie stereotypes that just scream out "AMERICA, **** YEA!"

Like I said...a 9/11 movie focusing on the terrorists would be much more daring. It would probably garner a lot of backfire....but it would also probably be damn good.
 
Matt said:
Like I said...a 9/11 movie focusing on the terrorists would be much more daring. It would probably garner a lot of backfire....but it would also probably be damn good.

I agree. I would like to see someone try and get that made in Hollywood ;)
 
Mentok said:
I agree. I would like to see someone try and get that made in Hollywood ;)

Well, if Syriana goes well enough in the long term...I wouldn't be suprised to see it.
 
I don't think it's too soon, I'm just not really interested.
 
Mentok said:
I dont see what the big problem is. If you think you would feel uncomfortable watching then dont go see it.

What about the families of people who died during the event? Why should they have to be reminded of what happened if they don't want to be? It's not like they can avoid the hype for the movie, the trailers, the reviews. And what if they don't like the way the events, or even their relatives, are portrayed in the movie?

A 9/11 movie is not only insensitive, it's dangerous. A lot of the people who see it will realise it's only a romanticised version of events. But a lot of people will take it as gospel and believe everything in the film is historical fact.
 
I think they have released it at this time for a reason. It is still in peoples minds but not 100%. There has been enough time for things to settle. It will also get publicity.
 
Seems like a risky movie to make about a plane that was more than likely shot down but I like this guys movies.

We all know there was a fight on board so its interesting subject, but I wonder did the filmmakers get to hear the flight tapes? If they didn't then 90% of this will be B.S.
regardless though the people ARE heros including everyone on the other planes too and buildings.

I know they play the real airtraficers voice in the trailer and then they cut to actors.

You can hear some of the real recording on airdisaster.com
 
WormyT said:
regardless though the people ARE heros including everyone on the other planes too and buildings.

No, they are not all heroes. Most of them are simply victims.
 
Kevin Roegele said:
No, they are not all heroes. Most of them are simply victims.
Well, I say heros because they too would have fought back had they known their captors weren't looking for demands or planning on landing the plane.
Plus the firefighters, cops and people helping others down those buildings plus the people who got their throats cut on the other flights. I'm sure they fought back.
 
Eh, I don't even think those people on Flight 93 fought anything. I think that story was made up to get the public feeling patriotic. They (the US government) shot down Flight 93.

Here's a site to read, if anyone is interested:

http://www.flight93crash.com/

another, about a mysterious jet spotted that same day:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnews/page.cfm?objectid=12192317&method=full&siteid=50143

And check out this caller to Howard Stern show, who was an eyewitness:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2004/042104flight93.htm


A MUCH more interesting film would've been about the coverup behind this whole damned thing. But maybe that's jus tme.
 
Yeah, I really want to relive 9/11

Pass
 
WormyT said:
Well, I say heros because they too would have fought back had they known their captors weren't looking for demands or planning on landing the plane.
Plus the firefighters, cops and people helping others down those buildings plus the people who got their throats cut on the other flights. I'm sure they fought back.

Who says they would have fought back? Who says most of them even knew what was going on?

I know it's more comforting to say, 'they died heroes' than simply, 'they died', but it's a romanticised view of events.
 
Kevin Roegele said:
Who says they would have fought back? Who says most of them even knew what was going on?

I know it's more comforting to say, 'they died heroes' than simply, 'they died', but it's a romanticised view of events.

Flight 93 was delayed, so the other three flights had a head start. Also, for whatever reason the terrorist take even longer than the other flights before they take it over. They then told the passengers, after killing an older passenger and the pilots that they had a bomb on the plane and that it was your standard hijack and if you don't listen we'll blow the plane up. However, once word got to the passengers about the three other planes crashing into buildings, they had a very good idea that they were bluffing. Before 9/11, nobody expected planes to be used for terrorist attacks so why wouldn't the passengers sit tight and hope they get out alive? Of course once they realized the planes were headed for the WTC or Pentagon it would be too late to mount an attack and stop them.


On Flight 93 they took a vote and told loved ones on the phone that they are going to try and stop them and how (boiling hot water, using a cart). A few of the passengers were well suited for the situation. The cockpit flight recorder you can hear the passengers banging on the door (where they most likely killed a terrorist who was standing guard outside the door), a terrorist telling another terrorist to hold up a small axe at the peep hole (which of course the passengers couldn't see), the terrorist pilot screaming, saying he was going to crash the plane as soon as they broke into the cabin.

Not all families/friends of the victims of Flight 93 were involved with the docudrama, now whether they didn't want to for their own reasons, or were upset about the whole project I don't know. Those who talked to people on the plane were used. And a few other close people. As for the movie that comes out this year, its not JFK where they can twist things to make it an very entertaining film, there are facts and a spotty stuff towards the end of the flight. We'll all see.

The order was given to shoot down any aircraft on 9/11 but that was well after Flight 93 crashed into a field.
 
Too soon. This movie is entirely too soon.

Timstuff said:
Also, man never went to the moon, and Elvis is still alive, right?

Are you saying that believing Iraq has no connection to 9-11, that Al Qaeda isn't in Iraq, and that the government implied ties for the sole purpose of invading Iraq is as silly as believing Elvis is still alive?

Because if so, you're stupid. The end.

EDIT: In all this Flight 93 takedown discussion, I'm surprised nobody's mentioned the time Rumsfeld mentioned "the plane we shot down over Pennsylvania" by accident in a statement made to the press.
 
Hasn't it been proven that it's virtually impossible to use your cell phone on a plane the way the people on Flight 93 supposedly did?
 
JLBats said:
Hasn't it been proven that it's virtually impossible to use your cell phone on a plane the way the people on Flight 93 supposedly did?

You can't actually expect people to think, can you?
 
I thought you just couldn't use them on takeoff and landing?
 

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