Fox Takes J.J. Abrams' Fringe

[black_dust]

Not many people posting in here much anymore is there??

Good episode again this week, pitty to see Charlie go his voice made me laugh

 

[black_dust]

agggh double post

 

[aaron]

i will miss charlie, he was awesome

so why do the shapeshifters/first wave want to open a path between the worlds? why do they want a war?

any ideas who the leader of them at the end is? it wasn't bell, was it?

 

[Maximus One]

Nah Bell isnt there leader (that we know of) I keep expecting an embittered alt-Walter to show up at some point looking for his son

 

[Kaleb]

i will miss charlie, he was awesome

so why do the shapeshifters/first wave want to open a path between the worlds? why do they want a war?

any ideas who the leader of them at the end is? it wasn't bell, was it?

Charlie was awesome in indeed , he shall be missed, As for why the shapeshifters want to start a war, I always thought that it came down to what Nina said about the '' poly exlution principle'' that no two objects can ocupy the same space at the same time''. Perhaps these shapeshifters are hell bent on been the only ones standing.


Im not sure who the leader is, Its not Bell , but he looked very much like Voldermort from Harry Potter.

 

[Dugath]

I am really liking this show. I have to say though this episode was kinda, dumb in a way.

1.They know or (assume) that when a shape shifter takes on an Identity the victim is dead.

2. Charlie (shape shifter) was found with the dead body of the Nurse (real body) but they assumed the nurse was the Shape Shifter..

3. They find out.. oh the Nurse was not the shape shifter but the real "nurse"

hmmmm

So... should it not have went

Hey.. Charlie claimed he killed the Shape Shifter.. but, it was the actual nurse laying there, since we believe the people he imitates are usually killed...perhaps we should suspect Charlie..

instead of

Hey the nurse was the real nurse now we have no idea who it could be..

(Btw wasn't the Shape shifter nurse shot twice in the Back.. I doubt the real nurse was.. and things like that really should not be over looked)

 

[Maximus One]

They did say that the shapeshifters are part mechanical

 

[Kaleb]

You know , I kind of wish they would come up with another word for shapeshifters.

 

[Evelisse]

Well guess, Alt-Charlie could always show up.

 

[Paroxysm]

Great episode. I wonder who the hybrid leader seen at the end of the episode was?

 

[Doctor Jones]

No idea. Usually if its a reveal like that it's a character we already know of. But not this time. I thought it was gonna be a Locke in the coffin sort of thing.

 

[Maximus One]

I thought it was The Observer. At least it looked alot like him

 

[camp Blood]

why is bell dying again?

 

[KALEL114]

I just got to watch this episode and it was awesome. So the shifters want a war with us. I guess we must have done something to them in the past to piss them off. Was it one of the wars Broyles was in? It was cool to see Curtis Manning again (24 reference). Where have Olivia's sister and niece gone. Did I miss that?

 

[Paroxysm]

Where have Olivia's sister and niece gone. Did I miss that?

They were in the first episode of the second season. Rachel left Ella with some friends and came back to see Olivia in the hospital.

 

[Paroxysm]

why is bell dying again?

maybe traveling between universes is hard on the lungs? lol

 

[KALEL114]

They were in the first episode of the second season. Rachel left Ella with some friends and came back to see Olivia in the hospital.

Yeah, but where are they now I wonder?

 

[Paroxysm]

Yeah, but where are they now I wonder?

Rachel's probably staying with friends in town. That's my guess.

Here's the Observer just outside Massive Dynamic, when Olivia leaves to meet Alt Charlie, just before they fight.

 

[carrrnuttt]

Here's the Observer just outside Massive Dynamic, when Olivia leaves to meet Alt Charlie, just before they fight.

You know, this just made me think of something.

What if, Walter somehow figured out a way to use the "image" of Charlie in the shapeshifter's machine to re-create Charlie in some fashion? Even a modified/improved version of how the shapeshifters use it.

Not sure if it does, but it seems plausible that the "image" can contain more than just the physical "snapshot" of the person it's copying. Meaning, some brain information can be possibly on there, as well, considering brain patterns are just as physical as a person's skin tone, etc.

I know it falls into the realm of "that makes death meaningless," but if a person dies without a machine like this nearby, I'm pretty sure that there won't be a revival without a clumsy deus ex machina which I'm sure the show won't fall back on; this isn't Heroes. I'm just looking for a way to bring back a character I liked on the show.

 

[KALEL114]

We always have the Alternate Charlie with the badass scar on his face.

Spoiler

 

[Paroxysm]

You know, this just made me think of something.

What if, Walter somehow figured out a way to use the "image" of Charlie in the shapeshifter's machine to re-create Charlie in some fashion? Even a modified/improved version of how the shapeshifters use it.

Not sure if it does, but it seems plausible that the "image" can contain more than just the physical "snapshot" of the person it's copying. Meaning, some brain information can be possibly on there, as well, considering brain patterns are just as physical as a person's skin tone, etc.

I know it falls into the realm of "that makes death meaningless," but if a person dies without a machine like this nearby, I'm pretty sure that there won't be a revival without a clumsy deus ex machina which I'm sure the show won't fall back on; this isn't Heroes. I'm just looking for a way to bring back a character I liked on the show.

Charlie was awesome, I've always been a fan of Kirk Acevedo's characters.

Charlies death was tragic, seeing his naked dead body being tossed into a roaring blast furnace was pretty shocking as well. I felt upset that they just killed of an awesome character but then I thought "what about Alt Charlie? if Peter came from another universe why can't he?"

 

[Paroxysm]

We always have the Alternate Charlie with the badass scar on his face.

Spoiler

It would be cool to see Alt Charlie show up later on and lend a hand.

 

[KALEL114]

I wonder if people from our Universe are to blame for the disasters that were happening in the Alternate Universe. Maybe that's why they want to get back at us? Can't wait to see how things progress.

 

[Paroxysm]

Good question, I could see that happening.


I wonder if Alt Walter will want his son back?

 

[KALEL114]

Let's take that one step further. What if Alt Walt was the person behind all of this. What if he blamed this Universe for taking away his son and it put him on a dark path. Perhaps he wrote the ZFT manuscript as well.