Frozen 2

[jmc]

'Frozen 2' Plot Revealed: Here's What Anna and Elsa Are Searching For

Calling it - their parents are still alive.

 

[THORin]

Calling it - their parents are still alive.

God, I hope not. That would be a cop-out. I really hope that the parents remain dead, but maybe it’s something to do with their own powers that Anna and Elsa are looking for. A lot of people think the two new characters in the trailer are the parents, young. I wonder if there’s any truth to that.

 

[jmc]

It would but it's probably the most logical story they can build from after the first film.

 

[Abudefduf]

I hope their parents are alive just so that Elsa can finally get revenge for what they did to her. Those two dicks kidnapped and imprisoned her, they deserve to be punished.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Kidnapped?

 

[Abudefduf]

I mean, sort of? They were holding her against her will, after all. The only difference between them and Gothel is that their motivations weren't as villainous.

 

[Arachnerd]

They had good intentions, but went about them the wrong way. I wouldn't call them villainous in any way shape or form.

 

[Thome216]

They are where Elsa got her fear from. Rather than listening to Pappy the Troll, they tried to bottle her up. They loved her deeply, but they also feared what could happen, esp with what happened to Anna. They were trying to protect both daughters at the same time.

Or, we can go the HISHE route...

 

[jmc]

I mean, sort of? They were holding her against her will, after all. The only difference between them and Gothel is that their motivations weren't as villainous.

Which means they were merely overly worried about their daughter. Unlike Mother Gothel, who was just a straight up ****.

 

[Abudefduf]

They imprisoned their child for years, how is that not villainous. I don't care what their intentions were, they still committed a crime. Being a better parent than Gothel isn't exactly a huge accomplishment.

The two dip****s get no sympathy for me.

 

[THORin]

Yeah, they were pretty bad parents, IMO.

 

[jmc]

I'd hazard a guess and say there would have been plenty of parents, especially those with kids who have either physical or mental issues, who could easily relate to those parents. It's not that black and white.

 

[DarkKnight88]

They imprisoned their child for years, how is that not villainous. I don't care what their intentions were, they still committed a crime. Being a better parent than Gothel isn't exactly a huge accomplishment.

The two dip****s get no sympathy for me.

It’s s two minute animated sequences from a time long ago. Did they lock her in a dungeon? She seemed pretty entitled.

Anyway, they can write the patents as sympathetic as they want. That’s the magic of fiction.

 

[Dark Raven]

If the parents are still alive, doesn't that make them still King and Queen? So Elsa would no longer be queen.

 

[Abudefduf]

I'd hazard a guess and say there would have been plenty of parents, especially those with kids who have either physical or mental issues, who could easily relate to those parents. It's not that black and white.

Hopefully not because wanting to lock up your "imperfect" child is kind of an objectively bad thing.

It’s s two minute animated sequences from a time long ago. Did they lock her in a dungeon? She seemed pretty entitled.

She was still locked in a room, no matter how nice-looking it was. And she didn't look happy to me.

Guys please, stop defending those two turds. They were terrible parents and it's good they're dead. Or are they?

 

[Arachnerd]

You're the one overreacting over their actions and treating them as if they were intentionally abusing Elsa, but okay. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Anyway, it will be interesting to know if the destination they were heading towards before their ship sank is involved with the new elemental powered people.

 

[MOVIELORD101]

Also, Elsa was never imprisoned except by Hans MUCH LATER in the movie. Elsa locked herself in her own bedroom as a choice, her parents never did that to her. Where the hell are you guys getting THAT? The only bad advice they gave was the conceal thing!

 

[Thome216]

Elsa was not 'locked' in her room. Twice we see she could move freely about the castle, and she avoided Anna because she also believed she was a danger to her and others.

 

[THORin]

Also, Elsa was never imprisoned except by Hans MUCH LATER in the movie. Elsa locked herself in her own bedroom as a choice, her parents never did that to her. Where the hell are you guys getting THAT? The only bad advice they gave was the conceal thing!

But who do you think built the dungeon with those hand-mitten shackles?

 

[Abudefduf]

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Perphaps I should watch the movie again. I swear that's not how I remember it. Did I hallucinate some things?

Either way that doesn't change that they're the ones who scared her into hiding. She was just a kid, she needed help. So as far as I'm concerned they're still terrible parents

 

[Arachnerd]

Oh, no disagreement there. I just wouldn't go as far as to treat them on the same level as Hans.

 

[Thome216]

They weren't terrible people or bad parents. You can see clearly that they loved their daughters dearly. They just reacted in the wrong direction.

As for the 'metal mittens' we don't know who made those. It's entirely possible Hans had them made the moment Anna left him in charge.

 

[DarkKnight88]

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Perphaps I should watch the movie again. I swear that's not how I remember it. Did I hallucinate some things?

Either way that doesn't change that they're the ones who scared her into hiding. She was just a kid, she needed help. So as far as I'm concerned they're still terrible parents

Meh. Parents were locking up there kids all the time pre-1985. Elsa was a monster. They did the right thing. Though they should’ve got her to work, like ringing a bell tower or something.

 

[sueb1863]

One thing I never figured out is, why did they isolate Anna? I could see why they'd be worried about Elsa and keep her away from other people but it doesn't make any sense to me that they would also force Anna into the same solitude. Especially since, as the second daughter, they'd want to get her married off to the prince of a neighboring kingdom.

It would have made more sense if they'd sent Anna off to a boarding school and kept Elsa isolated at home. But that would've messed up the plot...

 

[DarthSkywalker]

They imprisoned their child for years, how is that not villainous. I don't care what their intentions were, they still committed a crime. Being a better parent than Gothel isn't exactly a huge accomplishment.

The two dip****s get no sympathy for me.

First, what they did was wrong. But they did it after their oldest daughter almost killed their youngest daughter. Bad parenting happens, but they clearly loved their children.

Second, it was their own daughter, who was a child. Keeping her in a castle is not kidnapping. I don't know where you get that idea from, but it makes zero sense.

Three, have you considered why they kept her in the castle? One, Elsa's powers are lethal. We know that, because she almost killed Anna. Second, as soon as the people found out that Elsa had powers, they didn't seem to into the idea of the Snow Queen. We got the equivalent of the mob scene from Beauty and the Beast. Elsa is a living weapon, who even once her parents were gone did not leave the castle.

Four, considering what happens in Frozen apparently the only people who knew about Elsa's powers were her parents and the trolls. Which means they left her in the house, alone with servants and Anna. So where do you get that she was forced to stay in the room, heck in the castle, and could never leave? Anna came up to the door to play with her. She just didn't come out. She calls off the party early. Elsa could do what she liked.