Game Console question.

[hippie_hunter]

I'd say if you are not into the classic Nintendo franchises, then there is no strong enough reason left to buy the Wii. It's not like the SNES days where you could own the system, not be a fan of Mario, Zelda, etc, and still have a **** load of great games to choose from, not just a few.

There's more than just the Nintendo franchises for the Wii.

The Virtual Console alone makes it worth it because you can download games from the original Nintendo, Super Nintendo, Nintendo 64, Sega Master System, Genesis, Game Gear, TurboGrafx-16, TurboGrafx-CD, Neo-Geo, the MSX if you're in Japan, and Commodore 64 if you're in Europe.

Capcom has given the Wii great support with the Resident Evil series (Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition the best version of the game, Resident Evil: The Umbrella Chronicles which is a rather fun rail shooter, and the upcomming Resident Evil Zero: Wii Edition and there are rumored remakes of Resident Evils 1-3) and Okami. Square-Enix is delivering Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: The Crystal Bearers. UbiSoft published No More Heroes.

And of course there is nothing wrong with Nintendo franchises either. Super Mario Galaxy, Super Paper Mario, and Metroid Prime 3: Corruption are great games to begin with. And upcoming games such as Super Smash Bros. Brawl, Mario Kart Wii, and the inevitable Star Fox and true Legend of Zelda games will be a blast too.

 

[Raiden]

There's more than just the Nintendo franchises for the Wii.

The Virtual Console alone makes it worth it because you can download games from the original Nintendo, Super Nintendo, Nintendo 64, Sega Master System, Genesis, Game Gear, TurboGrafx-16, TurboGrafx-CD, Neo-Geo, the MSX if you're in Japan, and Commodore 64 if you're in Europe.

Capcom has given the Wii great support with the Resident Evil series (Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition the best version of the game, Resident Evil: The Umbrella Chronicles which is a rather fun rail shooter, and the upcomming Resident Evil Zero: Wii Edition and there are rumored remakes of Resident Evils 1-3) and Okami. Square-Enix is delivering Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: The Crystal Bearers. UbiSoft published No More Heroes.

And of course there is nothing wrong with Nintendo franchises either. Super Mario Galaxy, Super Paper Mario, and Metroid Prime 3: Corruption are great games to begin with. And upcoming games such as Super Smash Bros. Brawl, Mario Kart Wii, and the inevitable Star Fox and true Legend of Zelda games will be a blast too.

Exactly. And another reason to get the Wii is because of its unique motion-sensing controls that Wiimote and other periperals can provide, resulting in great gaming experiences you cannot get from 360 nor PS3. Although it may sound cliche now, but if you just play a few sessions of Wii Sports you will realize how the Wii console gives you very different enjoyment than the one you have with a regular controller on the other two next-gen system. I think owning a Wii (along with either 360 or PS3) is the way to go right now, if you want to have the best experiences in this gaming generation.

 

[Jerry!]

I'm not saying there is anything wrong with the Nintendo franchises, just not everyone is a fan of them. For some reason this always seems to degenerate somehow into some people think I am saying the Mario games or Zelda games are awful, when that isn't what I mean at all. It's simple: if you aren't a fan of those games, there really isn't much incentive to buy the Wii if you want to play NEXT GEN games. If you want to buy it for the sole purpose of the virtual console alone, well then go ahead, but good luck with all the other next gen games you miss out on. The Wii usually gets the worst versions of the multi platform games and sometimes misses out on them entirely.

And since the guy who started the thread hasn't really specified what kind of gamer he is, I say this: If you aren't a fan of Mario, Zelda, etc, don't bother with the Wii.

 

[Raiden]

I'm not saying there is anything wrong with the Nintendo franchises, just not everyone is a fan of them. For some reason this always degenerates into me somehow saying the Mario games or Zelda games are awful, when that isn't what I mean at all. It's simple: if you aren't a fan of those games, there really isn't much incentive to buy the Wii if you want to play NEXT GEN games. If you want to buy it for the sole purpose of the virtual console alone, well then go ahead, but good luck with all the other next gen games you miss out on. The Wii usually gets the worst versions of the multi platform games and sometimes misses out on them entirely.

And since the guy who started the thread hasn't really specified what kind of gamer he is, I say this: If you aren't a fan of Mario, Zelda, etc, all those kinds of games, don't bother with the Wii.

To me, Wii is more than just Mario, Zelda, etc. games (although I own those games too). Games I have in my Wii library included Madden (passing football with Wiimote is alot more fun than using your thumb to do it), DBZ Budokai 3 (executing kamikamika with Wiimote and nukchuk is an experience), Spider-man 3 (I could "shoot" web around the city all day long), and The Bigs 2007 (pitching has never been more fun).

As you can see, 360 and/or PS3 may have those games, but they cannot duplicate the experience. Hence the reason why owning a Wii is more than just platform-jumping as Mario or rescuing princess as Link.

 

[hippie_hunter]

I'm not saying there is anything wrong with the Nintendo franchises, just not everyone is a fan of them. For some reason this always seems to degenerate somehow into some people think I am saying the Mario games or Zelda games are awful, when that isn't what I mean at all. It's simple: if you aren't a fan of those games, there really isn't much incentive to buy the Wii if you want to play NEXT GEN games. If you want to buy it for the sole purpose of the virtual console alone, well then go ahead, but good luck with all the other next gen games you miss out on. The Wii usually gets the worst versions of the multi platform games and sometimes misses out on them entirely.

And since the guy who started the thread hasn't really specified what kind of gamer he is, I say this: If you aren't a fan of Mario, Zelda, etc, don't bother with the Wii.

But you completely ignored my point. There is more to the Wii's games than just Nintendo's franchises. Capcom, UbiSoft, and Square-Enix have done a great job in providing third party support for the Wii.

And the Wii does provide a rather unique experience thanks to the controls as Raiden said.

So really if a person really wants to take advantage of what this generation has to offer, the best bet is to go with the Wii and one of the HD consoles.

 

[Jerry!]

With the controller, again, it depends on the person. Until the poster tells us more specifically what he likes or what he doesn't like, I can't speak for him. Some people see it as revolutionary, others see it as a novelty. Personally I'm more indifferent to it than either one of those views.

As for the third party support, compared to the other consoles, it really isn't that great. You basically cited Resident Evil and it's remakes in general as an example and Final Fantasy. Is that enough? I don't think so, but again, I can't speak for the person who created this thread.

 

[hippie_hunter]

With the controller, again, it depends on the person. Until the poster tells us more specifically what he likes or what he doesn't like, I can't speak for him. Some people see it as revolutionary, others see it as a novelty. Personally I'm more indifferent to it than either one of those views.

True, the OP really needs to speak out on what he really likes and wants to play.

As for the third party support, compared to the other consoles, it really isn't that great. You basically cited Resident Evil and it's remakes in general as an example and Final Fantasy. Is that enough? I don't think so, but again, I can't speak for the person who created this thread.

I think we can all agree that the Wii's third party support is nowhere comparable to that of the Playstation 3 and Xbox 360.

 

[Raiden]

I think we can all agree that the Wii's third party support is nowhere comparable to that of the Playstation 3 and Xbox 360.

That's true. However, Nintendo has the stronger first-party support than their two competitors. Whether this is the reason for the weaker third-party support is unknown, but you'd think that with 7 million Wii sold and outselling both 360 and PS3 pretty much on a monthly basis, more third-parties will sign on. Perhaps Nintendo just has a lousy relationship with other developers?

 

[hippie_hunter]

The reason why third parties are hesitant to go full blown on the Wii is because:

1. Their games are vastly outsold by Nintendo's own games. Most people who get a Nintendo console do it to play Nintendo's games for the most part. Not Madden and whatnot.

2. No one wants to buy their ****ty ass games. Seriously about 95% of Nintendo's third party games are absolute crap.

 

[amazingfantasy15]

The reason why third parties are hesitant to go full blown on the Wii is because:

1. Their games are vastly outsold by Nintendo's own games. Most people who get a Nintendo console do it to play Nintendo's games for the most part. Not Madden and whatnot.

2. No one wants to buy their ****ty ass games. Seriously about 95% of Nintendo's third party games are absolute crap.

Well, both these point to the same problem, developers being lazy. If they spent the time to make a great game, I'd be willing to bet it would sell well. However, they aren't making good games, so it's their own damn fault it doesn't sell well. If Mario, Zelda, Metroid, etc... were being made by lazy developers who didn't demand the best quality sales on those games would suffer as well, but they make sure the games are of the upmost quality.

 

[Raiden]

The reason why third parties are hesitant to go full blown on the Wii is because:

1. Their games are vastly outsold by Nintendo's own games. Most people who get a Nintendo console do it to play Nintendo's games for the most part. Not Madden and whatnot.

2. No one wants to buy their ****ty ass games. Seriously about 95% of Nintendo's third party games are absolute crap.

1. I don't think this is a valid excuse; Wii owners like me would love to buy a good game, and that doesn't limit to just Nintendo games. It's not Nintendo's fault if they put more care and energy to their games than third-parties' do.

2. I agree 100%. When you have terrible games like Far Cry or PS2 ports that weren't designed for Wii originally, gamers will not spend $50 for them. Developers spend alot of money when making 360 and PS3 games, but when it comes to Wii it seems like they just rush them out or port them from other systems. It's no wonder why their games sell so bad.

 

[StrainedEyes]

I'm not saying there is anything wrong with the Nintendo franchises, just not everyone is a fan of them. For some reason this always seems to degenerate somehow into some people think I am saying the Mario games or Zelda games are awful, when that isn't what I mean at all. It's simple: if you aren't a fan of those games, there really isn't much incentive to buy the Wii if you want to play NEXT GEN games. If you want to buy it for the sole purpose of the virtual console alone, well then go ahead, but good luck with all the other next gen games you miss out on. The Wii usually gets the worst versions of the multi platform games and sometimes misses out on them entirely.

And since the guy who started the thread hasn't really specified what kind of gamer he is, I say this: If you aren't a fan of Mario, Zelda, etc, don't bother with the Wii.

How can you not enjoy a good Mario or Zelda game?? They are classic, fun, and always high quality. Great examples for why video games became popular.

The VC is also much better then the 360s XBLA, with plenty of old games to get nostalgic over.

You always come off like you have a vendetta against Nintendo.

 

[Cyrusbales]

PS3, 360 has been out a while now, wheras PS3 is just starting to pick up the pace and show itself of as the better machine. This time next year, there'll be no question that PS3 is better, it's just playing a little bit of catch up atm due to the later release.

 

[Jerry!]

How can you not enjoy a good Mario or Zelda game?? They are classic, fun, and always high quality. Great examples for why video games became popular.

The VC is also much better then the 360s XBLA, with plenty of old games to get nostalgic over.

You always come off like you have a vendetta against Nintendo.

See this is EXACTLY what I am talking about. It's like you can't say one bad word about Nintendo or Mario or Zelda. And the thing is, I'm NOT saying anything bad about them. That is what gets me. I'm not saying one negative thing about them, and somehow to people like you I still have this "vendetta" against Nintendo. Really, I don't get it. A person CAN'T not be a fan of those games? It's impossible for that to happen, to exist? It's not like I spread hate about the Wii or it's games, there are people here that do that, I'm not one of them. I understand it's appeal, I know why people play it, buy it. I'm just not one of them. I don't hate them, I' m just not a fan of those games. I tried the simpliest way to explain what I said so that it doesn't look like I'm just bashing Nintendo just to bash it, but apparently it was not clear enough for you.

Since the the poster who started this thread didn't specify or mention what he was a fan of, I stated to not bother with the Wii if he wasn't a fan of Nintendo, just to make the decision easier. That is all. If he is a fan, then hands down, he should get the Wii, no doubt. Good god....

 

[StrainedEyes]

But.. How can you not be a fan of them? What is not to enjoy about a good Mario or Zelda game? They are prime examples of what good games should be. I guess I get Mario, it's kiddy and cute and the story isn't all that great. But Zelda? Those games are all around awesome. Infinitely better then any of the FPS games being spewed out monthly.

I guess I just don't understand how you could not be a fan.

 

[Jerry!]

The same reason why everyone isn't in love with Star Wars, Batman, pretty much any pop culture icon. I don't hate Nintendo, I don't HATE their games. I don't go around and spread bull**** over how the Wii is a novelty. I don't do that. You are targeting the wrong person. I respect what they have done, I respect what games like Mario and Zelda have done for gaming, I totally understand why people are huge fans of those games. I'm just not one of them. It's as simple as that. I'm not one of their fans in love with their brand, which has made every Nintendo console from the N64 on pretty much obsolete to me, no matter what type of controller they have, no matter what's on the virtual console.

I am buying a next gen console to play next gen games. That was the main priority. They have little to none that interest me. It's that simple. And if the OP feels the same way as I do, then my advice stands, don't bother with the Wii.

 

[StrainedEyes]

You're strange. Just the way you write and respond to things... It's all just... strange..

 

[ProjectPat2280]

But.. How can you not be a fan of them? What is not to enjoy about a good Mario or Zelda game?

The same way some people just dont like Halo or Final Fantasy. I have NO interest in controlling a fat Italian plumber whose primary goal is to defeat a giant turtle. Just like Jerry said, i understand Mario's appeal, but im not one that he appeals too. Same goes for Zelda. I have little interest in elves and far off fantasy lands. Im not saying Zelda games are poor, but i could care less about that setting.

 

[StrainedEyes]

You don't even like the original Mario games? They are the pinnacle of old school platformers.

 

[GoldenAgeHero]

I for one can say that i don't like Zelda whatsoever. I just don't like the game, peple say its an action adventure....that wasn't the case in the SNES days felt like an RPG...I was pretty bored and gave up on it.


Mario on the other hand was the ****! loved that series...but lately i think mario is warrying off on me, galaxy lefta bad taste in my mouth....that game wasn't fun imo.

Metroid....i liked the first two games..didn't bother with the third. I felt the franchise had a lot more potential.

and i agree with Jerry, not everyone likes nintendo franchises..they probably at one point did and grew out of it.

 

[hippie_hunter]

Mario on the other hand was the ****! loved that series...but lately i think mario is warrying off on me, galaxy lefta bad taste in my mouth....that game wasn't fun imo.

GET OUT OF MY FORUM

 

[Jerry!]

You don't even like the original Mario games? They are the pinnacle of old school platformers.

You....just don't get it. If ProjectPat is the same as me, then we don't hate the original Mario games. It's more like a feeling of indifference to them. I understand and respect what Mario did for video games, I just don't love playing the games. I've played them, and they are fine. I'm just not a fan of Mario.

It's like I said, it's not the SNES days anymore. There aren't a crap load of other amazing games on the Wii besides all the Mario, Zelda incarnations like there was with the SNES. I can't remember how many games I had for that console, it must have been at least 15 or 20, and not one of them was a Mario,Zelda or any other classic Nintendo character themed game.

 

[StrainedEyes]

You....just don't get it. If ProjectPat is the same as me, then we don't hate the original Mario games. It's more like a feeling of indifference to them. I understand and respect what Mario did for video games, I just don't love playing the games. I've played them, and they are fine. I'm just not a fan of Mario.

It's like I said, it's not the SNES days anymore. There aren't a crap load of other amazing games on the Wii besides all the Mario, Zelda incarnations like there was with the SNES. I can't remember how many games I had for that console, it must have been at least 15 or 20, and not one of them was a Mario,Zelda or any other classic Nintendo character themed game.

I still think you're strange.. Just something about the way you write.. It bothers me.

 

[Jerry!]

Well your thinking that every gamer is in love with Zelda and Mario is kinda strange to me.

 

[StrainedEyes]

I never said love.