Game of Thrones - Non-Booker readers' thread - NO SPOILERS

[Iceman]

Whelp, I'm caught up. HA.

Wow, how many days did it take you to watch the whole thing?

 

[KevanG]

You've watched all the way through season 4?

Wow, how many days did it take you to watch the whole thing?

I started on 6/19. I don't have a job right now so I just blew through the whole thing.

 

[Iceman]

I started on 6/19. I don't have a job right now so I just blew through the whole thing.

Nice one, that was bloody fast! Good way to watch it.

 

[KevanG]

I kinda got desensitized to the nudity after a while watching it so much. The funny things was that it was almost like a rapid fire string of deaths in the show, just one after another constantly.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Stannis ignored Melisandre and listened to Davos for the Battle of Blackwater and if that had worked out he'd probably have continued to listen to him above her. Can't blame him for trusting Melisandre's words when her prophecies keep coming true and after that failure.

Yeah, definitely. It's the thing about Stannis listening to Melisandre that I can't get angry about, because it makes sense. For as much as I don't like the religion and how it's led to people burning at a stake...ultimately, Stannis kinda has no other option. Especially with how most of what she does does seem to come to fruition.

 

[KevanG]

I think even Davos is starting to turn a bit due to all the prophecies coming true. He is still a moral man since he saved Gendry but I think that he's noticed the amount of coincidences that happened since she burned his blood and may be more lenient in the future to her.

 

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

I know this is a bit weird to ask this here, but I figure this is the only safe place I can ask; how are the seasons' story lines divided up according to the books? Say, season one is book one, season two is book two, etc? Just curious. I got book one sitting on my desk, waiting to finish Gone Girl first.

 

[Sterling Archer]

I know this is a bit weird to ask this here, but I figure this is the only safe place I can ask; how are the seasons' story lines divided up according to the books? Say, season one is book one, season two is book two, etc? Just curious. I got book one sitting on my desk, waiting to finish Gone Girl first.

I believe that season 1 is book 1 and season 2 is book 2, but for seasons 3 and 4 they started mixing up content from books 3, 4 and 5.

 

[NoLaNitE007]

The books are more "realistic" in a way, because nearly everybody is painted in shades of grey. The TV series focuses more on trying to have people divided into good guys and bad guys. You only have to look at Dany and Stannis to see it, the truth about Dany is she would be a ****** queen, because she a naive little girl who I wouldn't be surprised seeing her turning into a new "mad king". The series doesn't show this as much, but they do a little.

But Stannis! Stannis! Stannis! is truthfully the best option for the throne, however but the series seems intent on presenting Stannis as a bad guy, that sinister music that plays when Stannis is supposed to SAVE the Night's Watch. It's ridiculous.

Stannis vs Roose seems to coming as well as the bastard battle between Jon and Ramsay.

If this occurs....GRRM has already shown his tendency to favor the alleged "bad guys". So I see Roose beating Stannis in some stupid, despicable, treacherous way..but maybe Jon beats Ramsay? Roose and Ramsay are the despicable, sick and treacherous bad guys IMO.

 

[KevanG]

I don't see Stannis as a bad guy, just a bit desperate since there's so many factions who either are underqualified and inexperienced (most people including Daenerys) or just want power because they can (the Lannisters). He has the right background to have the people and the other lords back him on his claim and he's getting the army together.

Stepping in and helping at the wall is a big thing and when word gets around I'd assume that he'd be getting more of a backing from that since the wall is a huge deal for everyone since it helps protect everyone from the north. Since most of the big powers are either squabbling among themselves or just too far away to matter right now then if he can get the right people convinced then he has a very good shot at being the new king, especially if he can convince people about the Lannisters children not being legitimate heirs to the throne.

 

[NoLaNitE007]

I don't see Stannis as a bad guy, just a bit desperate since there's so many factions who either are underqualified and inexperienced (most people including Daenerys) or just want power because they can (the Lannisters). He has the right background to have the people and the other lords back him on his claim and he's getting the army together.

Stepping in and helping at the wall is a big thing and when word gets around I'd assume that he'd be getting more of a backing from that since the wall is a huge deal for everyone since it helps protect everyone from the north. Since most of the big powers are either squabbling among themselves or just too far away to matter right now then if he can get the right people convinced then he has a very good shot at being the new king, especially if he can convince people about the Lannisters children not being legitimate heirs to the throne.

I don't think Stannis is a bad man either. The throne is rightfully his. I was saying Roose is the scumbag and so is is bastard Ramsay.

GRRM tends to use the readers and fans emotions against them for shock value. I see Roose beating Stannis in some twisted weak way and Ramsay beating Jon in some stupid weak way....unfortunately.

If that occurs....I think I will be pretty much done with GRRM.

 

[Asteroid-Man]

I don't think Stannis is a bad man either. The throne is rightfully his. I was saying Roose is the scumbag and so is is bastard Ramsay.

GRRM tends to use the readers and fans emotions against them for shock value. I see Roose beating Stannis in some twisted weak way and Ramsay beating Jon in some stupid weak way....unfortunately.

If that occurs....I think I will be pretty much done with GRRM.

I was thinking about that the other day, that the next death of a good guy won't have as much of an impact. We're expecting it now.

I'm still excited to see how the Red/Fore god resurrection thing comes in to play. My guess is either Jon or Stannis (or both) will "die" and everyone will be like "**** YOU GRRM!" and then the red priestess will bring one/both back and everyone will go

Then whichever of them returns from the dead will go on to destroy whoever the biggest threat is.

Speaking of which, who will the next big threat be? Will King's Landing be weak without Tywin or will Cersei's influence over Tommen ensure a brutal strength? And will Bravos pull their support of King's Landing or will they continue to hedge their bets?

What about the Iron Islanders? Is Balon Greyjoy going to be some huge power or will we just not hear of him now that the whole Theon story is done? And how are the Dornish going to react to the death of Oberyn???

Baaaah!!! I can't wait for next season!!

 

[Victarion]

How did you guys read that scene where Melisandre was burning people on the beach while Stannis and Davos looked on?

 

[Asteroid-Man]

How did you guys read that scene where Melisandre was burning people on the beach while Stannis and Davos looked on?

She was looking at Jon - she has some sort of a plan for him. Not sure if it's good, bad or kinky yet...

 

[Victarion]

She was looking at Jon - she has some sort of a plan for him. Not sure if it's good, bad or kinky yet...

Ha ha, I was talking about from episode two. Where they've got the septon and septas tied to the stakes.

 

[Asteroid-Man]

Ha ha, I was talking about from episode two. Where they've got the septon and septas tied to the stakes.

Huh?

 

[KevanG]

http://observer.com/2014/04/westeros-explainer-the-7-questions-you-had-about-game-of-thrones-4x2/

Answers various questions about S. 4 Ep. 2, #4 deals with the burnings.

 

[Ramsay Snow]

Ha ha, I was talking about from episode two. Where they've got the septon and septas tied to the stakes.

In Season 2? Where they're burning all the old gods?

Or do you mean this season, where they're burning that Florent person who didn't renounce his gods as Stannis ordered?

 

[Victarion]

In Season 2? Where they're burning all the old gods?

Or do you mean this season, where they're burning that Florent person who didn't renounce his gods as Stannis ordered?

Burning the Florents.

 

[Ramsay Snow]

Ah I see. Yeah, that was a great scene, especially Stannis' face when looking at the burning.

 

[Ramsay Snow]

Michael Slovis to direct first 2 episodes of Season 5:

http://winteriscoming.net/2014/07/0...up-of-directors-for-game-of-thrones-season-5/

 

[KevanG]

I've started reading the first book and I have to keep thinking of the TV scenes for anyone who I don't know to figure out who they are.

 

[KevanG]

Was reading the first book when they mentioned that Daenerys father was the Mad King that Jamie Lannister killed that earned him the title of Kingslayer. That never clicked before and it came as a shock to me because of that. Anyone else not realize that or am I just a dummy?

 

[Ramsay Snow]

You're not a dummy :P But yeah, I think I got all of that from Season 1. I think first episode explained Kingslayer in the Ned and Jaime scene and also throughout.

 

[Iceman]

Was reading the first book when they mentioned that Daenerys father was the Mad King that Jamie Lannister killed that earned him the title of Kingslayer. That never clicked before and it came as a shock to me because of that. Anyone else not realize that or am I just a dummy?

They referred to it quite a lot of times throughout the seasons but then there's so many things going on in this show. I know I missed quite a few obvious things on 1st watch.