General Reactions?

[Gamma Ra]

I don't think fans are being realistic about this. I wanna be positive, but you know who are gonna be the guys tearing into this? The young males who they're shooting to impress this time around. Why? Young males now have films like Transformers and Iron Man, which impressed the hell out of them. This movie has to find a way to do that, but with an organic palette that looks like you or me but green and muscular.

Louis Letterier has made it clear that this movie is not just for the 13 year old male audience. It will have themes that keep everyone entertained. Love story, action and drama from well respected actors. The fact that Norton and Roth, the main characters are males in their mid to late 30's throws that thought of teen focus right out the window. Same with Iron Man, 13 year olds as well as the elderly could enjoy.

I don't believe that we 'fans' are being un'realistic' about what we have seen, from our own responses and the responses of others. I've seen the 'positive' reaction of the general audience at my local theater to the Hulk trailer. Though one small crowd by comparison, the general audience non the less. Who I think is not being realistic is the few fans and trolls who think they have pegged Hulk's failure at the box office, as if they know exactly what appeals to everyone.

I can't wait until the movie comes out, because that will tell the whole story about what the majority of moviegoers feel, and I'm pretty sure the nitpickers will continue to nitpick even if the movie is extremely successful. It won't surprise me in the least.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Predicting the movie to fail has nothing to do with being a nit-picker or even disliking the first movie. It has everything to do with the fact that the first movie was hated by most, love it or hate it that was the genral consensous among the non-fanboy moviegoer. The first movie only came out 5 years ago and despite what the director and actors keep saying it looks like a sequel. The studio isn't advertising for it as much as you would this type of film and yes, I know it's a month out but still, the silence speaks volumes. Ofcourse I'm not saying that I know it will fail because that impossible but I am predicting it to fail and would be shocked if it suddenly came out and did Iron Man numbers or X2 or Batman Begins or Superman Returns or X1 numbers or Fantastic Four numbers or even Hulk numbers. As the release date gets closer I will undoubtedly change my prediction but for now I don't see any reason to believe this movie will succeed.

30to 40 mill opening, terrible legs for under or just a bit over a 100mil total. I do think it will do better internationally though.

 

[Nivek]

Poo poo poo.

So, ISS, what is your prediction for the "big" summer film?

 

[Knightsaber Priss]

Predicting the movie to fail has nothing to do with being a nit-picker or even disliking the first movie. It has everything to do with the fact that the first movie was hated by most, love it or hate it that was the genral consensous among the non-fanboy moviegoer. The first movie only came out 5 years ago and despite what the director and actors keep saying it looks like a sequel. The studio isn't advertising for it as much as you would this type of film and yes, I know it's a month out but still, the silence speaks volumes. Ofcourse I'm not saying that I know it will fail because that impossible but I am predicting it to fail and would be shocked if it suddenly came out and did Iron Man numbers or X2 or Batman Begins or Superman Returns or X1 numbers or Fantastic Four numbers or even Hulk numbers. As the release date gets closer I will undoubtedly change my prediction but for now I don't see any reason to believe this movie will succeed.

30to 40 mill opening, terrible legs for under or just a bit over a 100mil total. I do think it will do better internationally though.

I'm taking it you own a Time machine so you could come to these conclusions?

 

[Spade]

The word "prediction" was used in multiple conjugations in ISS' post. You don't need a time machine to make an opinion-based prediction. Studios do it all the time before movies come out.

 

[BMM]

My general reaction? Eh, unless I hear great word of mouth, I'll probably hold out on this movie. Nothing in the trailers really stands out. I was looking forward to Norton's portrayal of Banner, but even he seems ho hum from what I've seen.

 

[Gamma Ra]

Predicting the movie to fail has nothing to do with being a nit-picker or even disliking the first movie. It has everything to do with the fact that the first movie was hated by most, love it or hate it that was the genral consensous among the non-fanboy moviegoer. The first movie only came out 5 years ago and despite what the director and actors keep saying it looks like a sequel. The studio isn't advertising for it as much as you would this type of film and yes, I know it's a month out but still, the silence speaks volumes. Ofcourse I'm not saying that I know it will fail because that impossible but I am predicting it to fail and would be shocked if it suddenly came out and did Iron Man numbers or X2 or Batman Begins or Superman Returns or X1 numbers or Fantastic Four numbers or even Hulk numbers. As the release date gets closer I will undoubtedly change my prediction but for now I don't see any reason to believe this movie will succeed.

30to 40 mill opening, terrible legs for under or just a bit over a 100mil total. I do think it will do better internationally though.

The nitpicking statement is directed a the few who are doing it over and over and know the CGI's not finished. As some one pointed out a while ago, how can you tell if a cake is good, if all the ingredients aren't even in the batter much less baked.

I'm not arguing if a person likes or dislikes the trailer, film or whatever because you can't argue preference or opinion. If you don't like it, that's fine, but don't speak for the masses when you have no clue, then turn around and call those who think differently from you delusional or whatever. When the fact is said person making the definitive claims is the only one fooling themselves.

A person can 'predict' all they want, but the proof is in the pudding. Who 'predicted' Iron Man would do so well?

I was on the Batman Board earlier and had to laugh at some of the 'predictions' IM got. One poster wrote before IM opened in theaters that TDK will crush IM, but you know what, that 'prediction' remains to be seen.

 

[Spade]

I figured Iron Man was going to be a bit hit. I mean, what in the trailer had folks Concernicus enough to freak out over Iron Man? From the getgo, we saw lots of action, lots of quips, and drama up the yin-yang. The worst I thought was going to happen was that Fav would go overboard on the humor, and that never happened for me in the long run.

I don't agree with all predictions. I think the folks that are still hoping for Speed Racer to win its place at the box office should give up early, and that The Dark Knight is going to make more than Iron Man fans would care to admit. But it's all opinion. Leave it to the numbers to prove other people wrong.

 

[Gamma Ra]

I think most posters figured Iron Man would be a hit, but going by the polls through out these boards, not many predicted that it would be this big of a hit.

My stance on comic book movies is not Marvel versus DC or Darkhorse or what have you. I'll support any good movie. I want all the movies to be well made, and received well, to give credence, so that the genre continues.

As far as the The Dark Knight is concerned, I couldn't make up my mind whether Batman Begins was my first or second favorite comic book movie, so I'm definitely looking forward to it. I watched BB twice in the theater. If TDK is anywhere near as good as BB I'll see it at least twice.

 

[Bubonic]

I think a great deal of people on these boards are old enough and have seen enough movies, read enough comics, and gotten a bit of an intuition about what generally ends up working or not.

I'm only 23, but I have to say that my gut feeling about a movie, when given enough tidbits, ends up being right 90% of the time.

I could tell FF:ROTSS was going to be more of the same, I could tell from a mile away that GR was going to be a steaming pile of crap, as long ago as Favreau setting up the IM myspace page I had a huge feeling that this would be a big win, and the more was revealed the more sure I was that this was a sure thing....

That doesn't mean I, as a fan of GR didn't want a good film, and didn't desperately cling to whatever I could to convince myself it wasn't going to be so bad as it seemed...

I'm no rocket scientist, psychic, or hollywood insider, but I think for those who don't let their hopes cloud their judgement, these things are usually an easy call.

For this Hulk, I'm sort of experiencing what I did with SM3, extremely excited to see it, but from what I've seen, and what I've heard, I definitely don't think I will be as blown away as I was with IM.

Norton's delivery just isn't what I thought it be, for some reason it lacks something, and that is very big for me... The CGI has a long way to go in a short short time...
Unlike the IM movie where it seemed like everything was kept as close to the comics as possible, the fact that they fundamentally changed one of the few good Hulk rogues rubs me the wrong way, despite his great new look....

Prove my gut feeling wrong Marvel, please, please please prove it wrong...

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Poo poo poo.

So, ISS, what is your prediction for the "big" summer film?

Indy 4 with 325mil. lol Don't listen to me though I thought that IM would only make 210mil.

The word "prediction" was used in multiple conjugations in ISS' post. You don't need a time machine to make an opinion-based prediction. Studios do it all the time before movies come out.

Thankyou sir.

 

[thegameq]

I think a great deal of people on these boards are old enough and have seen enough movies, read enough comics, and gotten a bit of an intuition about what generally ends up working or not.

I'm only 23, but I have to say that my gut feeling about a movie, when given enough tidbits, ends up being right 90% of the time.

I could tell FF:ROTSS was going to be more of the same, I could tell from a mile away that GR was going to be a steaming pile of crap, as long ago as Favreau setting up the IM myspace page I had a huge feeling that this would be a big win, and the more was revealed the more sure I was that this was a sure thing....

That doesn't mean I, as a fan of GR didn't want a good film, and didn't desperately cling to whatever I could to convince myself it wasn't going to be so bad as it seemed...

I'm no rocket scientist, psychic, or hollywood insider, but I think for those who don't let their hopes cloud their judgement, these things are usually an easy call.

For this Hulk, I'm sort of experiencing what I did with SM3, extremely excited to see it, but from what I've seen, and what I've heard, I definitely don't think I will be as blown away as I was with IM.

Norton's delivery just isn't what I thought it be, for some reason it lacks something, and that is very big for me... The CGI has a long way to go in a short short time...
Unlike the IM movie where it seemed like everything was kept as close to the comics as possible, the fact that they fundamentally changed one of the few good Hulk rogues rubs me the wrong way, despite his great new look....

Prove my gut feeling wrong Marvel, please, please please prove it wrong...

Good post.

If you've been around long enough and seen enough movies in general you can usually spot the stinkers from the good films a mile away. Again, there is just something about TIH that isn't very convincing right now. Maybe it's that they aren't following the comic to closely and that has got some fans a little leary.

 

[Kirmit]

Personally I think the fan reactions (not the general audience) to this movie are based alot on Marvels attitude towards it. I mean how can they expect alot of buzz for this movie when their attitude thus far is to focus all their efforts on IM and give Hulk the leftovers. They aren't promoting it as the blockbuster it should be, they're treating it as second tier and because of this alot of fans aren't feeling the buzz for this movie. I'm sure Norton, LL and the CGI team have worked their butts off trying to make this movie a success, it's just Marvel who seem not to care, atleast that's the feeling I'm getting and IMO it's having an impact on the fans, maybe even subconciously.

 

[Bannerless Hulk]

I'm a firm believer that perception is reality and that each of us defines what that reality is. As far as TIH is concerned, clearly, the overwhelming perception here is that, since the TIH marketing has not picked up or since TIH has been neglected, the movie will therefore bomb. It's the prevailing sentiment, if you will, and well, it may very well translate to the general public, with the reasoning going something like:

If the hardcore Hulk fans are already disgruntled about the movie, then it's reasonable to assume people with lesser Hulk affinities may also be disgruntled when they see it.

The fact is TIH hasn't made a noticeable impact with the general public in the fashion of other movies, and here we are, just over a month out, still anxious for the marketing to "start." I think very few of us fanboys must even believe - against all intellect, hopes, dreams, etc. - that TIH will perform terribly well, but therein lies one of those nagging questions of definition: What, for each of us, will make the movie a success? Is it money? Is it a quality script and/or acting?

It seems to me that a lot us were instantly thrust into the expert's chair when Iron Man opened as well as it did. But hindsight is 20/20, as they say, and if we're honest with ourselves, did anyone foresee $104 million over four days or $177 million over 11? Come on now. Be honest. NO ONE foresaw quite those numbers, and to sit here and say "told ya so" is a bit pretentious. Not even Marvel's most optimistic outlook could've allowed for those numbers. Clearly, Iron Man was bigger than all of us thought it'd be.

So, when we all recline in our theaters on June 12 or 13 and watch TIH, I hope we won't allow how good it was for each of us to be determined by something like the movie's revenue. Or, in my case, the CGI - I hope I can get over my reservations in that department by the end of the opening scene. Because, in the event that TIH is awesome quality-wise, it would be a travesty to allow such trivialities to overshadow what otherwise could've been a better reality or to imbue the perception that TIH was not as good as it actually is.

 

[Cracker Jack]

I think a great deal of people on these boards are old enough and have seen enough movies, read enough comics, and gotten a bit of an intuition about what generally ends up working or not.

I'm only 23, but I have to say that my gut feeling about a movie, when given enough tidbits, ends up being right 90% of the time.............................................

Unlike the IM movie where it seemed like everything was kept as close to the comics as possible, the fact that they fundamentally changed one of the few good Hulk rogues rubs me the wrong way, despite his great new look....

Prove my gut feeling wrong Marvel, please, please please prove it wrong...

Good post. I hope The Incredible Hulk is in your 10% wrong column. LOL. I feel very much the same way. Although, the look on the Hulk face when he kicks Blonsky does makes me smile, I just haven't really been grabbed by anything about this movie................................yet

 

[ArtTeacher]

Good post. I hope The Incredible Hulk is in your 10% wrong column. LOL. I feel very much the same way. Although, the look on the Hulk face when he kicks Blonsky does makes me smile, I just haven't really been grabbed by anything about this movie................................yet

Yea! Cracker Jack came back to SHH, the devil's sewer.
Nice sig.

 

[Cracker Jack]

Yea! Cracker Jack came back to SHH, the devil's sewer.
Nice sig.

Good to see you back as well my brother.

 

[Iron_Stark]

The other few message boards I visit and everyone I know say they like the trailer and that it looks better than the first one, this message board though, is the only one that has people posting negative crap about the movie, as if we have another Catwoman or Poseiden on our hands.

 

[Clark Kent]

If The Incredible Hulk fails, will we ever see the Hulk on the big screen ever again?

Indy 4 with 325mil.

A lot of the early reviews are apparently saying that Indy's crap though.

Maybe it's that they aren't following the comic to closely

Will they ever learn?

this message board though, is the only one that has people posting negative crap about the movie, as if we have another Catwoman or Poseiden on our hands.

We may very well have.

 

[Bannerless Hulk]

If The Incredible Hulk fails, will we ever see the Hulk on the big screen ever again?

It would be a tough sell to shut out 'ole Greenskin from Avengers. I wager to guess we'd see him at least one more time, if only in that movie. But I don't think TIH will fail anyway, and it's a bit premature to be writing the Hulk's obituary because of a perceived absence of marketing.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

If The Incredible Hulk fails, will we ever see the Hulk on the big screen ever again?



A lot of the early reviews are apparently saying that Indy's crap though.

Episode 1 was crap IMHO and it make 430mil.

 

[Bubonic]

Good post. I hope The Incredible Hulk is in your 10% wrong column. LOL. I feel very much the same way. Although, the look on the Hulk face when he kicks Blonsky does makes me smile, I just haven't really been grabbed by anything about this movie................................yet

I saw the trailer with Iron Man yesterday (first viewing we didn't get it), and even though the story elements seem in place for it to be good, after seeing it on the bigscreen, I'm even more worried about the CG then ever.

No one reacted with much excitement, and personally I was underwhelmed by the fakeness of it, I suppose that can be fixed with some more texturing and playing with the lighting and then all will be good.... But they seem to be cutting to close for comfort.

At this point the FX should be where they'll be by June.... Shouldn't they?

 

[Cracker Jack]

At this point the FX should be where they'll be by June.... Shouldn't they?

I know what you mean and yeah they should be 99% complete by now. Most think they are still tweaking it. I have no idea if they are or not but after seeing the THUNDER CLAP, in the new trailer, I'm pretty sure I'll enjoy this movie.

 

[Kirmit]

I saw the trailer with Iron Man yesterday (first viewing we didn't get it), and even though the story elements seem in place for it to be good, after seeing it on the bigscreen, I'm even more worried about the CG then ever.

No one reacted with much excitement, and personally I was underwhelmed by the fakeness of it, I suppose that can be fixed with some more texturing and playing with the lighting and then all will be good.... But they seem to be cutting to close for comfort.

At this point the FX should be where they'll be by June.... Shouldn't they?

I find this odd, most people who have seen it on the big screen have said the cgi looks much better.

 

[FCEEVIPER]

I completely disagree. Hulk 03's effects were not flawless but I believe they were generally excellent. Look at the battle between Hulk and the military, especially the bit where he rips off a cannon from a tank and uses it to destroy another one. I haven't seen a single frame from the teaser or the theatrical trailer that looks anywhere near as accomplished as that.

I gotta agree there.