Rogue One General Rogue One News/Speculation/SPOILER Thread - Part 4

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Some people consider everything a spoiler and I for one don't get it. You do you though.

 

[Marvolo]

Rogue One succeed in stealing the plans and give them to Leia.

Spoiler alert.

 

[Broseph44]

Man, I wish Variety hadn't spoiled that.

Um it's not a spoiler. Nothing was spoiled at all. You can't be serious haha

 

[Breogan]

Oh, get lost with that attitude. "Used sparingly" in no way precludes "one scene where he cuts someone down"

Where did I say used sparingly precludes "one scene where he cuts someone down"
Who are you quoting? LIAR!
It's more than likely he will use it on someone.
You just make up a quote, than pretend I said it, then argue against what YOU made up.
Maybe look at what I replied to.
This was the quote.

They'd have to be fools not to let Vader light up the red blade and go to town just once.

unless you think "go to town" now suddenly means according to you the same as "cuts someone down"
But pretend I said he wouldn't "cut some down".
I said he likely wouldn't "go to town" with his saber on a bunch of Rebels.
That's not this movie.
What litter Vader we get will likely mostly be played against Krennic.

 

[I Am The Knight]

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[Marvolo]

When someone says "go to town" in relation to Vader it usually means they want him to slaughter some fools. Preferably with a lightsaber.

We havent seen vader on screen in 33 years. (ROTS's noooo scene doesnt really count for much.) To have him appear after all this time but not do much besides force choke one guy would be underwhelming as ****. I want to see him **** some people up in battle. Rebels has given us that but I want to see it in live action on the big screen.

 

[Breogan]

I doubt he's cutting down "going to town" on a bunch of Rebels.
That's not his role here, until after he takes over the mission to retrieve the plans: Opening of ANH.
We know he is being used sparingly.
I can see at the end him coming at Jyn just before she transmits the plans, and he kills her after she's done it as her last act.
That is not "going to town" though.

Maybe on Krennic's personal security, the Death Troopers.
Hence they are no more in ANH.

 

[titansupes]

Where did I say used sparingly precludes "one scene where he cuts someone down"
Who are you quoting? LIAR!
It's more than likely he will use it on someone.
You just make up a quote, than pretend I said it, then argue against what YOU made up.
Maybe look at what I replied to.
This was the quote.

unless you think "go to town" now suddenly means according to you the same as "cuts someone down"
But pretend I said he wouldn't "cut some down".
I said he likely wouldn't "go to town" with his saber on a bunch of Rebels.
That's not this movie.
What litter Vader we get will likely mostly be played against Krennic.

You can't possibly be this obtuse.

*waits for a certain gif*

 

[Breogan]

Where did I say or infer used sparingly precludes "one scene where he cuts someone down" ?
That's your quote.

 

[Marvolo]

If Vader enters the battle on Scarrif to stop Jyn transmitting the plans he's going to be doing more than just standing there waiting for Jyn to transmit the plans. Rebel grunts on the ground, X-Wing pilots in the air, and rogue one are all working, fighting, and dying to make sure she transmits those plans.

 

[Breogan]

If Vader enters the battle on Scarrif to stop Jyn hes going to be doing more than just standing there waiting for Jyn to transmit the plans.

Enter the battle? Said who?

Kennedy - “He will be in the movie sparingly,”

In the end he's after the plans.
He'll likely go directly to where Jyn can transmit the plans.
Although we know he's obviously to late.
That doesn't mean he won't kill her after the fact.

More intriguing than "go to town" fighting Rebels, is how he's played of Krennic the villain of the film.
I want to see Krennic developed as the true threatening counterpart to Vader, not surprisingly dressed in white, and with his own personal squad of "death-troopers" which only he controls, dressed in black.
Setting up a somewhat Vader v. Krennic story within the story; with them conspiring and backstabbing to move up the Imperial ranks and justify their means; expanding on the "faith" in the Force v. faith in technology theme.

 

[Marvolo]

Enter the battle? Said who?

Kennedy - “He will be in the movie sparingly,”

He's after the plans.
He'll likely go directly to where Jyn can transmit the plans.
Although we know he's obviously to late.
That doesn't mean he won't kill her after the fact.

I'm more intrigued how he's played of Krennic here, than against Rebels.

You said:

"I can see at the end him coming at Jyn just before she transmits the plans, and he kills her after she's done it as her last act."

To get to her to stop her he's going to have to enter the battle thats happening around her on Scarrif.

 

[titansupes]

Where did I say or infer used sparingly precludes "one scene where he cuts someone down" ?
That's your quote.

Christ, do you really think of everything so literally? Cut someone down, go to down. I want to see Vader light up his 'saber and kill someone/a lot of people. He might (nothing precludes either possibility), he might not (which I and most everyone else would consider a missed opportunity, but wouldn't kill the movie).

The one thing I can't figure is how you've had so much trouble with this.

 

[Breogan]

You said:

"I can see at the end him coming at Jyn just before she transmits the plans, and he kills her after she's done it as her last act."

To get to her to stop her he's going to have to enter the battle thats happening around her on Scarrif.

No it doesn't mean "he's going to have to enter the battle"
We know he['s]' being used sparingly.

He'll likely go directly to where Jyn can transmit the plans.

 

[Breogan]

The one thing I can't figure is how you've had so much trouble with this.

Again I want to see him cut someone down too!
So:

Where do you think I said or inferred used sparingly precludes "one scene where he cuts someone down" ?
That is your quote.
You implied that's what I said, to build your whole argument.
Simple question show me where I said or inferred that quote.

 

[titansupes]

Again
Where do you think I said or inferred used sparingly precludes "one scene where he cuts someone down" ?
That is your quote.
Simple question.

Again: You're the only one taking this so literally.

Simple concept.

 

[Marvolo]

No it doesn't mean doesn't mean "he's going to have to enter the battle"

She's probably going to transmit the plans from the ground on Scarrif so yes if Vader wants to stop her from doing that he will have to go to Scarrif to stop her. And there is a battle happening on Scarrif around Jyn. So how do you expect him to go to scarrif where a battle is happening but not get involved in the battle?

 

[Breogan]

Again: You're the only one taking this so literally.

Simple concept.

Well that's just it it is simple, you made up a quote ascribed it to me, so you could argue against a point YOU made up.
So I asked you to show me where I literally said or even inferred what you quoted.
You can't do either.
You made it up.

 

[Marvolo]

Also keep in mind that Joker was used sparingly in suicide squad but he still got to cause mayhem and kill people.

Fact is Vader being used sparingly does not rule out him getting involved in the action.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Some great members are on this page but... this page is the flower of the problems fans have communicating in these online forums.

 

[titansupes]

Well that's just it it is simple, you made up a quote ascribed it to me, so you could argue against a point YOU made up.
So I asked you to show me where I literally said or even inferred what you quoted.
You can't do either.
You made it up.

When did I ascribe a quote to you?

 

[Breogan]

She's probably going to transmit the plans from the ground on Scarrif so yes if Vader wants to stop her from doing that he will have to go to Scarrif to stop her. And there is a battle happening on Scarrif around Jyn. So how do you expect him to go to scarrif where a battle is happening but not get involved in the battle?

Not everything transpires on the battle field.

 

[titansupes]

Also keep in mind that Joker was used sparingly in suicide squad but he still got to cause mayhem and kill people.

Fact is Vader being used sparingly does not rule out him getting involved in the action.

That's it. That's literally all this conversation amounts to. But some people... have issues. Trying to pick a fight where none exists.

 

[Breogan]

Fact is Vader being used sparingly does not rule out him getting involved in the action.

Never said he wouldn't get involved in the action.
I quoted Kennedy saying he'd be used sparingly.

And besides Krennic even described a scenario where he personally could cut down Jyn.

What I suggested is he probably wouldn't "go to town" against the Rebels.
I wouldn't expect that, your likely setting yourself to be disappointed.

And this is where titansupes stepped in and invented the quote where I inferred used sparingly precludes "one scene where he cuts someone down."
Something I never said or inferred. He/She made that up just to argue!

 

[titansupes]

And this is where titansupes stepped in and invented the quote where I inferred used sparingly precludes "one scene where he cuts someone down."
Something I never said or inferred.

Lordy. At no point did I say or infer that you said that. Just because I had quote marks around something when I'm talking to you (talking to you being a mistake I won't be making again, Mr. Pedantic), doesn't mean I'm saying you said it. You're the only one who has taken it this way.