Rogue One General Rogue One News/Speculation/SPOILER Thread - Part 5

[Greens]

Those sequel images look terrible. The droid from Yavin 4 miraculously made his way to Leia? Come on.

 

[Neno_Kos]

I think Disney is not in most happiest mood in the moment with those leaks.

 

[marcvader]

Heads will roll.

 

[souperman]

Heads will roll.

Thanks for ruining!

That Leia image looks fake ...

Who's the kid?

They got the guy from American Graffiti ! Cool.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Uh how can Han be in the next movie? We saw him die in the one right before Rogue One.

 

[Neno_Kos]

Uh how can Han be in the next movie? We saw him die in the one right before Rogue One.

And he is getting his own spinoff movie next year. Doesnt make any sense!

 

[DarthSkywalker]

And he is getting his own spinoff movie next year. Doesnt make any sense!

So stupid.

 

[Greens]

The chick from the last movie didn't have her force powers in Rogue One. Wtf?

I knew getting rid of the EU was a bad idea.

 

[sueb1863]

I'm also glad Jyn and Cassian didn't kiss. At that moment they were just two desperately tired human beings about to die who just wanted to face what was coming together as comrades and fellow warriors in the good fight. Such a moment didn't need romance.

Of course, they could have kissed at a point when we just didn't see it, for those who want to think they did kiss.

 

[Breogan]

Also what the hell was that scene with the tentacle monster?

Loved the mind probe monster.

If the broken half-machine, half-man Guerrera reflects the opposite of Vader, but on the other extreme, the tentacle monster beautifully parallels Vaders "...now, we will discuss the location of your hidden rebel base" torture scene using the terrifying mechanical interrogation droid, to extract information from Leia.
Guerrara just uses an organic but equally violent and intrusive method.

I actually liked Whitaker as Saw. It was definitely a, um, "big" and weird performance but I liked seeing the portrait of a man irreparably ravaged by war, mentally and physically, and as a result is so brutal and unforgiving in his methods that he's indistinguishable from a terrorist, too far even for the Rebels. Whitaker plays him like he's constantly taking in his last breath.

Agree.

 

[Breogan]

The way I see it is that Lucas tried to continue the tradition of the movie ending on a shot of the cast posing for a family portrait.

If you want, you can count the scene with Jyn and Cassian embracing on the glowing horizon as their "end portrait", and the end of the Rogue's story. It does kind of follow the formula you indicate above.
That's one end.
The other bridges what they accomplished, with the start of the next.

 

[hellified]

I'm also glad Jyn and Cassian didn't kiss. At that moment they were just two desperately tired human beings about to die who just wanted to face what was coming together as comrades and fellow warriors in the good fight. Such a moment didn't need romance.

Of course, they could have kissed at a point when we just didn't see it, for those who want to think they did kiss.

theres your precedent

 

[Guts]

theres your precedent

 

[TheVileOne]

Why is Vile still so focused and worried about Saw and reshoots? I feel like that's all I see him talking about after the film. I feel like sometimes he doesn't read or maybe just ignores facts or certain things people say. Like what Roose said above about Filoni's comments.

Because I think the film has flaws and I am not afraid to point them out. I'm also curious about how different reshoots made the film and changed the tone. And if they were to the detriment or benefit of the narrative. Someone earlier said the reshoots were only for the end, when that's clearly not the case.

I'm curious about if the reshoots did fix Saw Gerrera and if we got the best version of Whitaker's performance as that character in the film.

 

[Breogan]

Spoiler

Honestly that was one of my major issues with it. It didn't ruin the movie for me by any means, it's still quite good. But that felt unnecessary to me. You didn't need to go THAT far just to sell the idea of "hope" and "sacrifice." It kind of left me feeling hollow at the end TBH.

I think they took a big risk in "going that far" it was a very bold move, and I commend them for that, they said out the gate this would be a different film, hence it should leave you with a different feeling.
The mystical hope filled Star Wars universe and characters we followed are still there, it goes on, but this was a reminder; everyone of those movies, had a war with untold stories and many mostlly unnamed characters dying in the background, be it pilots at the death star trench, the ground troops on Hoth, the Rebels on Endor, attacking and steeling the plans to the second DS, and as we knew from the very first crawl, steeling the plans to the first DS.
This was very much Star Wars, just it's what happened in the background.
You can chose not to go there, but this movie for one moment zooms in on those otherwise unseen characters. It's incredibly sad, somewhat uneasy and powerful.
I think it was worth exploring.

I think that’s where it really succeeded as a prequel. We all know the end, but it was still an adventure getting there. It a Star Wars story (literally), but it was also about the forgotten heroes of wars. I wasn’t just thinking of Jyn’s main squad...it was all the soldiers on the beach, it was the rebels who got trapped in the corridor...it was that ONE guy left who managed to escape with the plans.

Exactly, those characters were there, part of the Star Wars adventure from the get go, this film just for an instant shifts the lens onto them directly.

What's great about the film is that while these characters weren't the most fleshed out, they still did a really fantastic job making us care when they met their end.

Yeh. they had six main characters to jugle, in the end they were each unique, some definitely a bit more dark and more complicated than I would have expected from Star Wars, I cared about all of them, was angry, sad, and then lifted up as they each met there end.
Well done!

It definitely showed a mentality that's been absent from most of these films, that hungry desperation of war and hardened determination these people had for their cause. You could see why every death mattered, every little act of defiance.

It's a hard theme to explore, many weren't going to like it, or feel uneasy about it, which makes me glad they took the risk to explore it, as many of these characters operate in the gray area.
When Andor takes out a fellow rebel, I knew this character and movie had crossed a line, ........ got real! Later he mercilessly shoots one of Saw's scavengers, yet in doing so he saves Jyn, further he chooses not to kill Jyn's father, yet her father is still killed by the Rebel attack. It's not pretty, it's exhausting, emotionally, and it weighs on the characters.
Unbelievably this carries them to the end. It's powerful.

 

[Reverse-Zoom]

I was not a fan of this movie. I know I'm in the minority but I just didn't much care for it. Star Wars 7 was slick tho I liked that. Rogue one just pissed me off.

 

[Marvolo]

In a recent interview, Gareth Edwards said Lucasfilm has completed a 4K restoration of ANH. Whether its the Special Edition or the original theatrical version is unknown.

http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/gar...s-completed-a-4k-restoration-of-star-wars-309

If its the original theatrical version then Im going to have a joygasm.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

In a recent interview, Gareth Edwards said Lucasfilm has completed a 4K restoration of ANH. Whether its the Special Edition or the original theatrical version is unknown.

http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/gar...s-completed-a-4k-restoration-of-star-wars-309

If its the original theatrical version then Im going to have a joygasm.

No more crappy Jabba scene or CGI crap everywhere?

 

[Marvolo]

No more crappy Jabba scene or CGI crap everywhere?

Next year is the 40th Anniversary of ANH and Rogue One will be coming out on blu-ray. A blu-ray release of the 4k restoration of ANH in 2017 would be perfect.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Next year is the 40th Anniversary of ANH and Rogue One will be coming out on blu-ray. A blu-ray release of the 4k restoration of ANH in 2017 would be perfect.

It would be perfect at any time, but yes that would be perfect timing.

 

[Breogan]

Mentioned this in the Diego thread, but after the implications of Cassian's past, and how awesome K2 was, I'd love to see a Netflix series of their past missions.

I'm with you!
Cassian Andor was the hardest character to like, and biggest surprise for me, everyone else although interesting, was closer to traditional easy to digest "hero", this guy made it hard, but it's his need to see it through with Jyn to the "ugly" end that pays off, and makes it beautiful..
Again when he takes out the jittery Rebel who is about to lose it, ....... it got very real!
This was not going to be a black and white world, or character.
Then on Jedah when he shot the guys blowing the Imperial tank scavenging the Kyber Crystals, I thought screw this guy.
When Jyn breaks him down, compares him to a storm trooper blindly taking orders doing his job, I was with her.
Then on second viewing, only then did I see the guy he shot was tossing a grenade that would have killed Jyn, she has no idea of this.
If he didn't "do his job" she'd be dead, ... he's been doing this since he was six?!
And it only escalates from there, as the bond between them grows, she actually uses his words, "Rebellions are built on hope", which she had looked on cynically, until it's all they have.
His final "welcome home" to her had me.
Chirrut was easy to love, Cassian was again, probably the most gray area complicated character, and is what really won me over to this film.

If Netflix picked up a miniseries telling further tales of Andor and K2, I'd be all over it!

 

[Vartha]

In a recent interview, Gareth Edwards said Lucasfilm has completed a 4K restoration of ANH. Whether its the Special Edition or the original theatrical version is unknown.

http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/gar...s-completed-a-4k-restoration-of-star-wars-309

If its the original theatrical version then Im going to have a joygasm.

Probably the Special. Doubt we'll EVER see the Original unless you have it already

 

[hellified]

I'm with you!
Cassian Andor was the hardest character to like, and biggest surprise for me, everyone else although interesting, was closer to traditional easy to digest "hero", this guy made it hard, but it's his need to see it with Jyn to the "ugly" end that pays off, and makes it beautiful..
Again when he takes out the jittery Rebel who is about to lose it, ....... it got very real!
This was not going to be a black and white world, or character.
Then on Jedah when he shot the guys blowing the Imperial tank scavenging the Kyber Crystals, I thought screw this guy.
When Jyn breaks him down, compares him to a storm trooper blindly taking orders doing his job, I was with her.
Then on second viewing, only then did I see the guy he shot was tossing a grenade that would have killed Jyn, she has no idea of this.
If he didn't "do his job" she'd be dead, ... he's been doing this since he was six?!
And it only escalates from there, as the bond between them grows, she actually uses his words, "Rebellions are built on hope", which she had looked on cynically, until it's all they have.
His final "welcome home" to her had me.
Chirrut was easy to love, Cassian was again, probably the most gray area complicated character, and is what really won me over to this film.

If Netflix picked up a miniseries telling further tales of Andor and K2, I'd be all over it!

WHICH IS WHY THEY SHOULD HAVE KISSED IN THE END!!!!

 

[Solidus]

Nah they will re-release the original sometime soon. Even Lucas's friend John Landis said last year that Lucas had told him they were working on 4K prints of the Theatrical cuts.

 

[Vartha]

Nah they will re-release the original sometime soon. Even Lucas's friend John Landis said last year that Lucas had told him they were working on 4K prints of the Theatrical cuts.

One can only hope no pun intended