George Lucas calls Spider-Man 3 'silly'

[xwolverine2]

lucas isnt perfect but hes damn right.

 

[Spider-Bat]

He's got alot of nerve, look at episode 1 and Jar Jar. What a jerk, and I use to defend the prequels. Screw that!

What a moron! Spidey 3 was better than anything he's done lately!!!

3 is great. Sam did a wonderful job fitting everyone in there, and I never once felt like I was missing out on any of the characters.

3 has a great story and is just great all around.

 

[Tangled Web]

you guys are right.

Silly bastard Lucas shouldn't have an opinion at all.

Even though he, like anyone not blinded by the hype (no pun intended), even he can see that the movie was silly.

I mean come on, Jazzy Parker pops his collar up and somehow that makes Gwen's hair fly up at the same time? Yeah that's not silly.

When Lucas is calling something silly, that says something. I don't dig him, but he's right.

 

[kooguy911]

George Lucas calling something silly because of plot holes? Bwhahahahhaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[kooguy911]

Whats next, putting Brett Ratner in decision to judge up and coming filmmakers and tell them whats good or bad?

 

[Tangled Web]

George Lucas calling something silly because of plot holes? Bwhahahahhaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So just because he's a hypocrite his opinion is void?

 

[Gigo]

When Lucas is calling something silly, that says something. I don't dig him, but he's right.

Right on the money. If a guy who puts Jar-Jar in a movie as comic relief thinks this is too silly we should all pay attention. It's like the alcaholic saying this wine is crap. Believe the voice of experience.

Goerge Lucas is uniquely qualified to give an opinion on silly.


Also, FWIW, Star Wars is s'posed to be over-the-top-space-opera-movie house-serial-cheese. It's part of the genre. Spider-man can make no such claim. The comic isn't camp, the source material for SW is.

 

[Tangled Web]

Give or take I agree with you. These Spider-Man movie fans are missing the big picture.

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

George Lucas can crap in his hat and wear it backwards for all I care.

(Big, BIG fan of Spidey 3)

 

[kooguy911]

So just because he's a hypocrite his opinion is void?

No. Thats not what im saying.

This is like a mcdonalds worker telling a hobo to get a job. It kind of makes sense but the irony is hard to ignore.

 

[Gigo]

No. Thats not what im saying.

This is like a mcdonalds worker telling a hobo to get a job. It kind of makes sense but the irony is hard to ignore.

You might want to check the definition of irony.

 

[kooguy911]

irony: something humorous based on contradiction

source
World English Dictionary © & (P) 1998-2004 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.


in other words, a mcdonalds worker telling a hobo to get a job is ironic because the mcdonalds worker has a very low paying job and should get a better one, yet hes telling a hobo to get a job as if he knew everything about high paying jobs. That compares to this lucas story because lucas has many plotholes in his own movies, yet he is saying that spiderman 3 has horrible plotholes. That is the definition of irony.

 

[jaienviedechier]

What's wrong with Georgie? He used to be really cool.

 

[Gigo]

irony: something humorous based on contradiction

source
World English Dictionary © & (P) 1998-2004 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.


in other words, a mcdonalds worker telling a hobo to get a job is ironic because the mcdonalds worker has a very low paying job and should get a better one, yet hes telling a hobo to get a job as if he knew everything about high paying jobs. That compares to this lucas story because lucas has many plotholes in his own movies, yet he is saying that spiderman 3 has horrible plotholes. That is the definition of irony.

No, he's telling the Hobo to get a job. Period. While McDonalds fry-cook isn't exactly fortune 500 material, it most definately pays better than "hey man, can you spare some change?"

So while it would be ironic if the person giving the advice was considerably less qualified to do so than the person recieving the advice, it is not the case in your example. The person advising ( employed) is significantly better qualified to give advice on the topic (employment) than the person being advised ( unemployed).

So it's not even a little bit ironic. Just because you can cut and paste doens't mean you have a clue what your talking about.

 

[Gigo]

To re-iterate:

A person who has considerable knowledge about a subject giving advice on that subject is niether ironic, or unusual. Lucas talking about plotholes and sillyness should be taken with all the weight and gravity of say, Stephen Hawking talking about instellar physics, or Stan Lee talking about comics. The guy is (arguably) one of the pre-eminent thinkers in the fields of plot-holes and sillyness of our time.

 

[Green Goblin 1964]

George Lucas can crap in his hat and wear it backwards for all I care.

(Big, BIG fan of Spidey 3)

I agree with you completely i thought this movie was the best!

 

[englishtrebor]

Someone needs to send Lucas a copy of the following scene I'll paraphrase:

Padme: What is it?
Anakin: You're so beautiful.
Padme: It's because I'm in love with you.
Anakin: No, it's because I'm so in love with you.
Padme: So love has blinded you?

He was clearly trying to waste time but throw in "love has blinded you." This is from the beginning of Episode III which was the best of the three. I won't even quote Phantom Menace.

 

[ClarkLuther55]

What Lucas said is such a complete non-issue, and this whole thread just smacks of fanboy indignation.

How is Lucas a "hypocrite" for calling Spider-Man 3 silly? So because, in your opinion, the Star Wars prequels weren't that great, Lucas can't say he doesn't like some other movie?

If any of you made a movie, it would be crap, because most of you aren't filmmakers. Does that mean you don't have a right to call other movies crap?

When Lucas said Star Wars wasn't silly, it seemed like an obvious joke (hence the wink).

I like Star Wars. I'm also a fan of the first two Spider-Man movies. But let's not fool ourselves, Spider-Man 3 had a number of major flaws in it. Lucas's comments on the movie weren't unjustified.

And yes, I think the SW prequels are better than it. They at least had a cohesive story that was planned out. SM3 was a mishmash of different plots and villains that didn't resolve most of them in a satisfying way. I love how fanboys b*tch about how supposedly horrible the prequels are for a few poorly acted love scenes (I saw AOTC again, and those amount to about 15 minutes TOTAL), yet they don't attack SM3's flaws with nearly as much ferocity.

But oh no, that horrible hack Lucas dissed SM3! A movie with our hero in it! Lucas must die!

 

[ClarkLuther55]

Another little internet fanboy thing that annoys me: an urban legend has been spread around that people everywhere HATE the SW prequels, that the prequels "killed" the SW franchise, and that they're considered horrible, horrible movies.

That's quite a bit of exxageration. You want an example of a sequel/prequel that sucked so much it really did sink the franchise? Matrix Revolutions. It made money but not NEARLY as much as its predecessor ($139 million compared to $281 million), and got horrible reviews (37% at Rotten Tomatoes). Just a few short years after that movie came out, hardly anyone talks or even cares about the Matrix.

For all the fanboy hate, the SW prequels made money, and people kept coming back for them. The SW franchise is still going strong, with books, video games, and even two TV shows coming out in the near future.

And the reviews? The Phantom Menace got 63% at Rotten Tomatoes, and Attack of the Clones got 66%, both qualifying as "Fresh" at that site. Not quite the critical savaging that the internet MYTH would have you believe. What did Spider-Man 3 get? 61%. That's right, the critics liked the SW prequels better than SM3.

Whether or not a movie is "good" or "bad" to you is your own opinion, and you're entitled to it. But don't fool yourself into thinking that everyone hates the SW prequels that much.

 

[Dragon]

What Lucas said is such a complete non-issue, and this whole thread just smacks of fanboy indignation.

How is Lucas a "hypocrite" for calling Spider-Man 3 silly? So because, in your opinion, the Star Wars prequels weren't that great, Lucas can't say he doesn't like some other movie?

If any of you made a movie, it would be crap, because most of you aren't filmmakers. Does that mean you don't have a right to call other movies crap?

When Lucas said Star Wars wasn't silly, it seemed like an obvious joke (hence the wink).

I like Star Wars. I'm also a fan of the first two Spider-Man movies. But let's not fool ourselves, Spider-Man 3 had a number of major flaws in it. Lucas's comments on the movie weren't unjustified.

And yes, I think the SW prequels are better than it. They at least had a cohesive story that was planned out. SM3 was a mishmash of different plots and villains that didn't resolve most of them in a satisfying way. I love how fanboys b*tch about how supposedly horrible the prequels are for a few poorly acted love scenes (I saw AOTC again, and those amount to about 15 minutes TOTAL), yet they don't attack SM3's flaws with nearly as much ferocity.

But oh no, that horrible hack Lucas dissed SM3! A movie with our hero in it! Lucas must die!

There are platitudes that apply to the situation.

Pot calling the kettle black.

People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

What goes around comes around.

I'm rubber and you're glue...

 

[Vaportrail]

Well, honestly.. Spider-Man IS silly. I love it to death, but you pull out scenes like Bruce Campbell being the French guy, Peter dancing in the street (AND a club), JJJ and Ted Raimi doing.. whatever they do... yeah, they're pretty silly.

You can still take the drama seriously, but really I'd say that Spider-Man is a lot more lighthearted than Star Wars. Well, excluding the Phantom Menace. That one's "special".


-Vaportrail

 

[shinlyle]

George Lucas can crap in his hat and wear it backwards for all I care.

(Big, BIG fan of Spidey 3)

Same here.

I like the original Star Wars films, and I tolerated the second trilogy, but, as I've said before, his opinion has no bearing on my enjoyment of the film, and I do feel that his previous works force me to take any comment he says about Spider-man 3 with a grain of salt.

It's not that his opinion doesn't matter at all, just that it doesn't matter to me.

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

Same here.

I like the original Star Wars films, and I tolerated the second trilogy, but, as I've said before, his opinion has no bearing on my enjoyment of the film, and I do feel that his previous works force me to take any comment he says about Spider-man 3 with a grain of salt.

It's not that his opinion doesn't matter at all, just that it doesn't matter to me.

Exactly.

 

[Apprentice]

Christ, people...the guy was asked his opinion, like every opinion that's been given since Spider-Man 3 was released. This is such a non-issue.

He didn't like...like alot of people didn't like. Alot of people didn't like his Prequels. Alot of people liked Spider-Man 3. Alot of people liked the Prequels.

So, just lay off. Again, it's such a non-issue, even if you do agree with the guy....

Thank you! Moaning about this or throwing around immature comments is just stupid.

 

[Mr. Socko]

George Lucas can say whatever he wants to about Spider-Man, but that doesn't stop him from being a fat b!tch who can't make anything new. All he does is milk the same old cow, next year he's got a Star wars cartoon then the following year a live action Star Wars tv show. Yeah so much for leaving Star Wars as is. He's rotting Star Wars. The originals are amazing ground breaking films but if Lucas doesn't stop they're going to get caught up and lost with the other crap he churns out like those s****y books, tv shows, and prequels.