Godzilla (2014) - - Part 11

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Forgot to add...the score was bloody atrocious. Very jarring and unfitting.

I thought it was fantastic. Desplat did a wonderful homage to Ikufube's work on the original, with the large brass section and the shifting time signatures. I think it really enhances the images on screen.

Are you confusing "atrocious" with "old-fashioned" scoring? I loved how it wasn't a Zimmer-like score.
 
I thought it was fantastic. Desplat did a wonderful homage to Ikufube's work on the original, with the large brass section and the shifting time signatures. I think it really enhances the images on screen.

Are you confusing "atrocious" with "old-fashioned" scoring
? I loved how it wasn't a Zimmer-like score.

You can make your point without condescending to me, and no, I'm not. Glad you liked it; we can agree to disagree.
 
Desplat's not a composer to everyone's taste, so I can understand some people being put off by his style. He's one of my favorites, and I like how he and Michael Giacchino brought back melody and motifs back to Hollywood film scoring.
 
Desplat's not a composer to everyone's taste, so I can understand some people being put off by his style. He's one of my favorites, and I like how he and Michael Giacchino brought back melody and motifs back to Hollywood film scoring.
Desplat's scores usually annoy me (unlike Giacchino's), but I loved what I heard of of his score for this in the WonderCon footage, so now the score is one of my most anticipated aspects of this movie.
 
The more I think about it the more disappointed I get. My rating is still a 7/10 for this movie as it's not horrible, just average and forgettable. I now wish I had waited for this to hit Redbox/ Netflix instead of spending 8.75 to see it in theaters. Should have just popped and Pacific Rim and just wanted all the fight scenes and that would have been better.... But that's just me, Godzilla fans will probably love this movie.
 
I do not agree with waiting for Redbox. I was hooked onto the monsters from the very first appearance of the MUTO. These are massive creatures, Godzilla included, and a TV screen will not do them justice, visually or aurally.
 
The human characters are pretty boring. Cranston was great, but the rest I could do without. That's not good considering the humans carry 80% of the screentime. There is definitely room for improvement with a sequel. More Godzilla screentime, please.
 
I would have thought the less is more approach would have been apt for a film like this. Kind of like Jaws, where we didn't and didn't need to see the creature every 5 minutes. It's all about the power and impact of the mythological presence that has people sh(tting their pants.

The comparison to Jaws is extremely flawed.

The shark in Jaws drives the plot by causing hell for everyone right from the get go in the very first scene. Godzilla does NOT drive the plot in this film. He is a reactionary character and he doesn't show up until an hour into it.

To make matters worse, the human characters are very boring in Godzilla. The three lead characters in Jaws were very interesting. Massive difference between the two films.

I think the Joker in TDK was a much better modern representation of the Jaws type of storytelling. He shows up right at the beginning, then pops back in occasionally to cause all kinds of hell for the other characters. Unfortunately Godzilla doesn't do this. Most of the plot is driven by two other monsters.
 
Were the first two fights ever even filmed? If they were, what studio in their right mind would consider Edwards' decision to cut them a smart move?
 
......and I'm gonna assume if this gets a sequel, Godzilla will be much more prominent the second go around. The studio (and director) must be aware of the complaints of G's screen time and lack of action, no?
 
......and I'm gonna assume if this gets a sequel, Godzilla will be much more prominent the second go around. The studio (and director) must be aware of the complaints of G's screen time and lack of action, no?

I don't even know if it's the total screentime that's the problem, it's...

the decision cram practically all of his screentime into the last 20 minutes of the movie. At least with the shark in Jaws or the Joker in TDK, their limited screentime is spread out in nice 5 minute segments through the film's running time.
 
It's practically sequel law to have more action than the previous. Here's hoping it'll be against at least one classic foe, as multiple monsters are a certantity.
 
I think you have some valid points however I think the thing to consider is that this film really isn't a monster flick, at least not in the traditional sense. Godzilla is actually in IMO more like a classic western, he is the quiet anti-hero who comes along and does what's needed to save the day before riding off into the sunset. I will agree there's lack of fear instilled, however I don't think that's a detriment to the film. I think of it as more about a sense of build up to the enviable showdown, the gunfight on the main street as it were. Those type of stories tend to be a slow burn which is what happens with this film, it's not really meant to be a series of iconic battles with people screaming every which way.

That's an interesting way to look at it, and although I never thought of it that way myself, I'd still argue that it doesn't quite measure up in that respect as well.

As the quiet gunslinger, he didn't IMO receive a fitting buildup to his grand entrance. It was a very striking introduction (like I said, visuals and imagery were top-notch), but as others have pointed out, the payoffs fell very flat (or weren't there at all); often times, they weren't properly structured or given enough time to linger and/or breathe. I think that for a film like this to work, the supporting cast and their plight has to be compelling. Otherwise, where is the significance of the hero's intervention? The supporting cast just wasn't very interesting here, at all. Cranston turned in an excellent performance, but his arc ended rather abruptly, and the rest of the cast were cardboard cutouts to the nth degree. Barring all of that, I can't recall a western whereby the gunslinger was as much of an afterthought as Godzilla was in this movie. I get what they were going for in this regard, but it could have been executed much better.

I'm all for slow-burn storytelling, but it has to be done well to resonate with me. Nolan is masterclass when it comes to this; he can do escalation, anticipation, and tension right up there with the best of them (just an example; please, nobody kill me), but here, Edwards doesn't seem to know how to seamlessly intertwine the drama with the looming presence of the titans in the movie. Every time Godzilla showed up, it was very sudden and anticlimactic. The way he was integrated also clashes somewhat with the internal logic of the film, which really sucked out most of the impact of his appearances. For me, it wasn't even his limited screen time that got to me; that's a very arbitrary complaint (Silence of the Lambs says hello) for me, it's just that there was no appropriate structure to most of his appearances - buildup, appearance, payoff, transition...it was all very flat and run-of-the-mill. That's not what I imagine when I think of the better westerns and their anti-heroes.

I'm starting to belabor my point so again, I'll stop for now until I can organize my thoughts more coherently. Whatever the case, there isn't any particular lens through which I can view this movie in an overall positive light. It was just very 'meh' for me.
 
Were the first two fights ever even filmed? If they were, what studio in their right mind would consider Edwards' decision to cut them a smart move?

Lets keep in mind it's the same studio that copped a lot of flack for letting Man of Steel get over bloated with action sequences.
 
Visualiza, you are knocking it out of the park. I wanted to love the movie but the more I think about it, the more disappointing it was. The other two creatures drove the story and there were a ton of human characters I didn't give a crap about.
 
Lets keep in mind it's the same studio that copped a lot of flack for letting Man of Steel get over bloated with action sequences.

But this is what Godzilla's known for! Massive destruction and facing off either against man or beast! That is what people want to see! No one is saying that should be all the film's about. Everyone wants a good story with compelling characters. But the movie (and star attraction) is called GODZILLA. It's not like Jurassuc Park was called T-REX and we only got 15 minutes of the dude. That film not only had good characters and heart, but a slew of other dinosaurs going for it as well.

I'm just bummed. My most anticipated movie of the year. And I haven't even seen it yet LOL.
 
If there's so little of G man and the MUTOs, where did all that money go? What was the budget for this? $200 mill?
 
But this is what Godzilla's known for! Massive destruction and facing off either against man or beast! That is what people want to see! No one is saying that should be all the film's about. Everyone wants a good story with compelling characters. But the movie (and star attraction) is called GODZILLA. It's not like Jurassuc Park was called T-REX and we only got 15 minutes of the dude. That film not only had good characters and heart, but a slew of other dinosaurs going for it as well.

I'm just bummed. My most anticipated movie of the year. And I haven't even seen it yet LOL.

Well, it's possible you'll love it. Just have to see for yourself. I wanted to love it but the human characters just weren't interesting enough to carry 80% of the screentime. Better writing was needed for this particular type of story to be done the right way IMHO.
 
Lets keep in mind it's the same studio that copped a lot of flack for letting Man of Steel get over bloated with action sequences.
OK, then this film took the other extreme and did the exact opposite without finding that happy medium ;) .
 
Wow, I loved it.

Have no idea why so many did not enjoy this film. My only complaint would probably be
after the first meeting between the MUTO and Godzilla. Their meeting and Godzilla's big reveal was so epic and awesome. Showing the brief fight on TV after that, was disappointing. The audience I watched it with laughed when it showed the little boy watching the fight on TV. I did enjoy the big build up to the ending. Godzilla has never looked better.

I can't wait to see it again.
 
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