Godzilla (2014) - - - - Part 13

[Lencho01]

Those scenes and the ones with Cranston are basically the only scenes worth watching. I also find it lame to compare this to Alien or Jaws even, because in those movies, the characters were actually interesting.

And I can't believe just how childish that ending is. The city is totally ruined, probably millions of people dead, nuke fallout to worry about, and the news can only come with "the king of monsters, saviour of our city?". And people actually cheering. So freaking dumb. I really really wanted to like this movie, but it's impossible.

For all the hate it gets, I'd rather watch the last American Godzilla since those characters were entertaining. Maybe not that interesting, but at least entertaining.

I laughed at the ending. I could understand the media using such a sound bite, but I don't think the general public would be that cheerful. Godzilla probably didn't even care for their opinion too.

 

[Supernova]

Yep. I do tend to wonder if most of these "the other Godzilla films had him on screen for loads of time!" tend to reminisce about the...other "Godzilla" movie. You know. That one.

I thought there wasnt much godzilla then ethier just more of the humans.

 

[Donut]

Yep. I do tend to wonder if most of these "the other Godzilla films had him on screen for loads of time!" tend to reminisce about the...other "Godzilla" movie. You know. That one.

What worked back then does not necessarily work now & the sequel wont fool the people that did not like the first one twice. The sequel has to be updated to modern times or risk making less money

 

[Boom]

A better balance could have been struck.

I don't hate this movie, but I don't feel anything towards it. I watched it the other day and was just... numb to it. Which depresses me quite a bit, given how much I was anticipating this movie. The characters just weren't that interesting, and Watanbe was given almost nothing to do besides stand there looking bewildered.

 

[A Necessary Evil]

For all the hate it gets, I'd rather watch the last American Godzilla since those characters were entertaining. Maybe not that interesting, but at least entertaining.

I laughed at the ending. I could understand the media using such a sound bite, but I don't think the general public would be that cheerful. Godzilla probably didn't even care for their opinion too.

The 98 characters were entertaining, but only because every one of them, sans maybe Reno, was written to be a bumbling bafoon. But they certainly weren't written any better than those from Godzilla 2014.

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Also, lol at "Godzilla probably didn't care for their opinion"

Of course he didn't care...he's a freakin' animal.

What worked back then does not necessarily work now & the sequel wont fool the people that did not like the first one twice. The sequel has to be updated to modern times or risk making less money

I really don't know if you agree with me or not, honestly. Even if they didn't like the first, then don't go see the second one lol. I made that mistake with TASM / TASM2, I won't again. Simple as that.

 

[Supernova]

The next one needs to be balls out. Legendary got Godzilla himself perfectly now surround him with a great story and even better monsters to fight and serious screen time. Heck you could do the monster island idea and have a group of scientist there studying him and this way we get him on screen and learn more about him.

 

[Lencho01]

The 98 characters were entertaining, but only because every one of them, sans maybe Reno, was written to be a bumbling bafoon. But they certainly weren't written any better than those from Godzilla 2014.

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Also, lol at "Godzilla probably didn't care for their opinion"

Of course he didn't care...he's a freakin' animal.

Yeah, that's what I mean. They may have been bad, but the entertainment value made up for it. The 2014 characters were just plain boring. And they killed their most interesting one off at the start.

Aw, come on... Godzilla's got opinions. Remember his opinion on the MUTOs was "Nope, here's some Atomic breath!" t: So, in the end he was all "Whatever. I'm outta here."

 

[Loki882]

I'd rather have boring but ultimately harmless characters than characters that I hated/was annoyed with to the point that I wanted Godzilla to step on them any day of the week. So Godzilla 2014>>>>>>>>>>>>>Godzilla 1998 in that regard.

 

[DeadPresident]

I don't understand when people classify an entire movie as boring, I've found very few movies that are completely boring. When people call a film boring it's usually because their expectations weren't met, which has little to do with the movie and more to do with what they went into the movie hoping for.

 

[Enriquespy]

Wow, so many people that did not like this film, so many people to tailslam!

 

[AnneFan]

I don't hate this movie, but I don't feel anything towards it. I watched it the other day and was just... numb to it.

Yeah, I found this movie completely dull and unengaging. One viewing is enough for me.

 

[The Dark Defender]

I thought the characters in this were fine. As for the Alien comparison made, I never understood why people found the characters in that movie so interesting.

Yaphet Kotto's character was kinda cool, but I never found that characters especially likable or interesting at all in that movie. Ripley especially, not sure what the hell people see in her. She's just...there, not much personality or charisma.

Considering the freaking fortune it cost to put Godzilla onscreen every time we saw him, I wasn't surprised that he wasn't in this movie, and I think his scenes would've been significantly less awesome if he had a significantly larger amount of screen time.

The scenes where he was onscreen were some of the most jaw-droppingly awesome, awe-inspiring stuff I've ever seen in a major hollywood blockbuster, and the human stuff was servicable at worst. There was nothing painfully bad about anyone or anything in this movie.

It's probably still my favorite movie of 2014 thus far.

 

[Drizzle]

I thought the characters in this were fine. As for the Alien comparison made, I never understood why people found the characters in that movie so interesting.

Yaphet Kotto's character was kinda cool, but I never found that characters especially likable or interesting at all in that movie. Ripley especially, not sure what the hell people see in her. She's just...there, not much personality or charisma.

Not to derail the Godzilla thread by talking about Alien, but I kind of agree with you there. Ripley didn't get interesting until the sequel, and frankly, that's because James Cameron knows how to write strong female characters.

 

[Loki882]

That was the point. Ripley being the lone survivor was a surprise, both because Sigourney Weaver was the least well-known cast member and because Ripley was portrayed as "just one of the crew" for a big chunk of the movie.

 

[A Necessary Evil]

Too bad his stories suck

 

[Loki882]

What? Anyway here's the thing. If you're barely going to show Godzilla, the thing that most people came to see anyway and who's name is in the freaking title (heck it is THE title), then what's going elsewhere had better be interesting, and it really wasn't here. It wasn't terrible, but it was bland. Oh and not having Cranston around when Godzilla finally showed up was just a poor decision.

 

[A Necessary Evil]

Why? He wanted to know what killed his wife
that's his whole point in the film
to find out
so what do we have him do afterwards
how does that improve the movie
"hey check out that other giant ass thing"

BTW, for your information, there have been plenty of movies that have Godzilla in the title where he's barely featured. I suggest you educate yourself on pretty much every godzilla movie ever made.

 

[dodgers2213]

^perfectly described

 

[A Necessary Evil]

^perfectly described

thank ye

 

[redhawk23]

Why? He wanted to know what killed his wife
that's his whole point in the film
to find out
so what do we have him do afterwards
how does that improve the movie
"hey check out that other giant ass thing"

BTW, for your information, there have been plenty of movies that have Godzilla in the title where he's barely featured. I suggest you educate yourself on pretty much every godzilla movie ever made.

That's the problem though: Cranston's characters story was engaging was a fairly solid basis for a film but they instead made it only the first act. The writers CHOSE to have the MUTOs be the driving element of the wife's-death-mystery plot instead of Godzilla and they chose to wrap up that part of the story in the first third.

Its what they chose to do and their work is critiqued by such.

The MUTOS though, man, I love the MUTOs. The film did a lot of great things with them. I loved how they were just living out their life cycle, humans be damned. And again, their actions spawned the most interesting human story. They are the Jaws, the Alien of this movie.

 

[Roose Bolton]

It's mediocre at worst, and I blame this entirely on the script. I think what Gareth Edwards wanted to do was essentially Monsters with a larger cast, yet was beholden to an average script that meant that his directorial choice didn't pay off. The best parts of the human storyline are the ones written by Frank Darabont at the start, and I think everything with those scenes work from a filmmaking perspective. It's really that Legendary didn't get Frank to essentially re-work Max Borenstein's entire script that the film didn't reach it's potential.

 

[redhawk23]

It's mediocre at worst, and I blame this entirely on the script. I think what Gareth Edwards wanted to do was essentially Monsters with a larger cast, yet was beholden to an average script that meant that his directorial choice didn't pay off. The best parts of the human storyline are the ones written by Frank Darabont at the start, and I think everything with those scenes work from a filmmaking perspective. It's really that Legendary didn't get Frank to essentially re-work Max Borenstein's entire script that the film didn't reach it's potential.

Many of the most common complaints come from Edwards directing approach though like the constant cutting away.

Build up is great, showing bits and pieces, but when you act like you're finally going to deliver you best commit.

 

[redhawk23]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UEWOasVZ20

Godzilla 2014 8 bit remake. This is very well done.

 

[Roose Bolton]

Many of the most common complaints come from Edwards directing approach though like the constant cutting away.

Build up is great, showing bits and pieces, but when you act like you're finally going to deliver you best commit.

Didn't seem like they were trying to build up anything in the last act.Godzilla vs the Mutos looked more like it was meant to come across as a natural disaster occurring whilst the protagonist did his own thing, to add tension during the situation. And from my own perspective, I don't think that approach is totally wrong or incapable of succeeding in a Godzilla film, the problem is that the human characters and the human storyline weren't well drawn because the script was bare.

Had the whole thing been written by a talent like Frank Darabont, then Edwards choices would have been a lot more successful IMO

 

[Loki882]

Why? He wanted to know what killed his wife
that's his whole point in the film
to find out
so what do we have him do afterwards
how does that improve the movie
"hey check out that other giant ass thing"

BTW, for your information, there have been plenty of movies that have Godzilla in the title where he's barely featured. I suggest you educate yourself on pretty much every godzilla movie ever made.

And I suggest that you cut the attitude. What I said, since you obviously weren't paying attention, was that the lack of Godzilla stood out because there was nothing really interesting going on elsewhere and they killed off the only truly interesting character before he even showed up. If that had had more interesting plotlines/characters, then I'd have been fine with Godzilla not appearing a lot (although barely ten minutes out of a two hour movie is pushing it). But they didn't, so I wasn't. Try actually reading what I said next time ok.