Godzilla vs Kong (2021)

[KaijuDude1992]

It's a good point for sure, but its crazy to me that we have actually gotten monster movies with memorable/great characters in them, but not so much for the Kaiju films.

To be honest though as a kid I never watched those movies for the humans, because it always about the monsters yet it feels like these days they focus way more on the humans for some reason, but maybe that's just me.

I really miss those days during the 90's and early 2000's when we got films like Gamera: Guardian of the Universe and Godzilla:Tokyo S.O.S. where you had humans as the main characters, but also plenty of monster battles to balance it out which made it all the more better IMO.

 

[MadVillainy]

But, characters are never going to be better than “basic/standard” in films like this... so, I’d take the effort put into visuals ala Godzilla ‘14. Instead of KOTM where everything is washed out and the framing or POV isn’t very interesting/rewarding.

Even the recent legendary Apes trilogy has those characters issues... they try more, but they also know the heart of the story was Casaer (along with the importance of his cgi). Not the damn dirty humans.

There's a difference between standard/basic and being boring. I, and I'm sure most, aren't asking for Michael Corleone, Walter White levels of characters. Just interesting ones. Ones with personalities, ones with somewhat interesting storylines, ones with better than "passable" performances.

And I wouldn't bring the new Apes trilogy into this, As @Deck Rickard said they're in a different area than the kaiju films are and I'm not talking quality.
A better comparison would be like Hulk or maybe the Transformers movies. Those are more in line with what we're talking about. THey're all franchises where of course the draw are those big characters (Hulk, the Autobots, Godzilla, Kong) but in a live action film you're gonna spend a majority of your screentime with the "human" characters. So you might as well make them enjoyable to watch
EDIT: Or Jurassic Park. Most people watched the first JP for the action and horror set pieces, but they still made the human characters at least somewhat interesting to watch
EDIT 2: Or Aliens and arguably Predator

 

[MadVillainy]

To be honest though as a kid I never watched those movies for the humans, because it always about the monsters yet it feels like these days they focus way more on the humans for some reason, but maybe that's just me.

I assume to keep the costs down. But idk.

 

[Flash525]

So...

Spoiler

That doesn't look like any ordinary plane in the top left corner. Who was banking on aliens?

Spoiler

I think that's one theory too far. They're not about to throw aliens into this film, simply because their involvement would ultimately take away from Kong and Zilla.

It's more likely that jet is owned by the same organisation that's created mecha-zilla.

 

[moviefreak]

Enjoyable trailer, if somewhat predictable.

Predictable is the youtube comment section :

Godzilla vs Kong: Dawn of Monster League.

Godzilla: “You were never a god. You were never even a king.”
Kong: “Save Mothra.”
Godzilla: “Why did you say that name?!??”

Kong: do you bleed?
Godzilla: .....
Kong: You will..

Mortha appears...
Kong: Is she with you?
Godzilla: I thought she was with you...

 

[StarLord]

So...

Spoiler

That doesn't look like any ordinary plane in the top left corner. Who was banking on aliens?

Please please please...

Spoiler

 

[antsman41]

There's a difference between standard/basic and being boring. I, and I'm sure most, aren't asking for Michael Corleone, Walter White levels of characters. Just interesting ones. Ones with personalities, ones with somewhat interesting storylines, ones with better than "passable" performances.

And I wouldn't bring the new Apes trilogy into this, As @Deck Rickard said they're in a different area than the kaiju films are and I'm not talking quality.
A better comparison would be like Hulk or maybe the Transformers movies. Those are more in line with what we're talking about. THey're all franchises where of course the draw are those big characters (Hulk, the Autobots, Godzilla, Kong) but in a live action film you're gonna spend a majority of your screentime with the "human" characters. So you might as well make them enjoyable to watch
EDIT: Or Jurassic Park. Most people watched the first JP for the action and horror set pieces, but they still made the human characters at least somewhat interesting to watch
EDIT 2: Or Aliens and arguably Predator

Sure... sure. Honestly, I like Watanabe/Cranston/Chandler/Bobbie Brown more than Pratt/Howard in the recent Jurassic World films.

 

[MadVillainy]

Ok
I wasn't talking about Jurassic World I was talking about Jurassic Park

 

[DarkKnight88]

EDIT: Or Jurassic Park. Most people watched the first JP for the action and horror set pieces, but they still made the human characters at least somewhat interesting to watch
EDIT 2: Or Aliens and arguably Predator

And the granddaddy of them all, Jaws.

You come for the shark, but it's the trio of Quint, Hooper and Brody that makes it a classic.

Hell, even the 1933 King Kong has Ann Darow and Carl Denham who are fun. Driscoll sucks but that's more how they wrote their leading men back then.

 

[Drizzle]

I found the characters in Peter Jackson's King Kong to be enjoyable as well, even though Andy Serkis as Kong steals the show. I've always found Jack Black's performance to be underrated in it. It helps that there's literally a full hour of character development in the movie before the big guy actually shows up.

 

[Doctor Jones]

I love Jackson's King Kong. It's the best one. The characters are all great and memorable and you actually feel for them when they die or what happens to them.

It takes the best things from both movies and through Jackson makes an epic tragedy out of it. Damn criticism of the length, that's part of what gives it its character.

 

[KaijuDude1992]

Peter Jackson's King Kong is still my favorite as well and while I know alot of people had problems with that hour long build-up I've honestly never had a problem with it, because I atleast enjoyed the characters and you definitely get a more than satisfying pay-off once they actually get to the island which made the big, monster movie fan in me very happy, especially when I first saw it as a teenager.

 

[MadVillainy]

I need to rewatch Peter Jackson's King Kong. It came oout in middle school and I was so hot on LOTR, but all I remember is it being really boring.

And the scary PSP game with the giant bugs haha

 

[galmorzu]

Peter Jackson's King Kong is still my favorite as well and while I know alot of people had problems with that hour long build-up I've honestly never had a problem with it, because I atleast enjoyed the characters and you definitely get a more than satisfying pay-off once they actually get to the island which made the big, monster movie fan in me very happy, especially when I first saw it as a teenager.

I just rewatched this again recently, and my god, the whole sequence on top of the Empire State Building to the end credits utterly guts me still. The moment Kong dies and you see his eyes dilate and you know that's the moment he passes tears my heart out every single time I see it. And the silence of the scene only makes it hurt more.

 

[Monsieur Xavier]

So...Kong grew a Leonidas beard. Good.
I found the trailer's music horrible.
Looks like a movie I would see in theater when/if the confinement is lifted. It's big, there are known monsters.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I was not a fan of Jackson's King Kong. It had things I liked about it, but it was waaaaaaaaay too long. There is no reason it needed to be like 3hrs. Absolutely none. It dragged really bad and felt padded.

 

[Iceman]

I was not a fan of Jackson's King Kong. It had things I liked about it, but it was waaaaaaaaay too long. There is no reason it needed to be like 3hrs. Absolutely none. It dragged really bad and felt padded.

I would have cut that whole giant insect/spider section. I'm a fan of the film though, otherwise. It's got a unique charm for me. Have you seen the extended version of it?

 

[flickchick85]

I was not a fan of Jackson's King Kong. It had things I liked about it, but it was waaaaaaaaay too long. There is no reason it needed to be like 3hrs. Absolutely none. It dragged really bad and felt padded.

Yeah, there was plenty in there that I actually did like, but on the whole, it was a textbook example of self-indulgent filmmaking, imo.

 

[Broseph44]

Oh I can’t get enough of Jackson’s Kong, always watch the extended edition.

 

[flickchick85]

I will say James Newton Howard's score for it is one of my favorites, which is impressive considering he only had to 6 weeks to write, arrange and record it.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I would have cut that whole giant insect/spider section. I'm a fan of the film though, otherwise. It's got a unique charm for me. Have you seen the extended version of it?

I think I own the EE blu ray, but I never watched it. I bought it for my Monster movie collection basically. Still waiting for the 70s version and King Kong Lives to see blu ray release

 

[KaijuDude1992]

I need to rewatch Peter Jackson's King Kong. It came oout in middle school and I was so hot on LOTR, but all I remember is it being really boring.

I would definitely give it another shot if you couldn't get into it before, but I understand why it isn't a film for everyone due to the running time and the slow beginning.

And the scary PSP game with the giant bugs haha

I actually had that game for my PS2 at the time and couldn't get enough of it. It took me years to beat it too, but it was alot of fun and definitely one of the better games based on movies that came out back then IMO.

 

[MOVIELORD101]

Still hoping someone on here makes a wallpaper version of that poster!

 

[flickchick85]

I would definitely give it another shot if you couldn't get into it before, but I understand why it isn't a film for everyone due to the running time and the slow beginning.

The other major complaint I had about it was that it romanticized Ann/Kong into more of a Mighty Joe Young situation.

 

[Broseph44]

The ps2 game for Jackson’s Kong was great, highly underrated. But damn was it difficult. If my memory serves me correctly.