Grayskull: Masters of the Universe - Part 2

[Pink Ranger]

That looks like a good start. Anyway, specifics like "what shade of purple are Adam's pants?" are what costume tests are for.
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BTW, I'm wondering how many people around this thread have even watched the 200x cartoon? Seems like it's not very many.

Saw it, liked it, makes me bitter knowing what the next season would have been like.

 

[aNarcHy2day]

That Adam costume could easily be black pants and brown fur... which would work on film like clockwork.

 

[DawnWarrior]

I still want the maroon vest. It's kind of a trademark part of his look, like Wolverine's hair or Tony Stark's mustache.

 

[Panthro]

Saw it, liked it, makes me bitter knowing what the next season would have been like.

Yeah it was a good show and I'm still disappointed at how it got canned. At least it wasn't a completely depressing final episode (the heroes still won if only for a day).

 

[Thundarr]

Yeah it was a good show and I'm still disappointed at how it got canned. At least it wasn't a completely depressing final episode (the heroes still won if only for a day).

I much prefer the 2002 reboot to the original 1980's version. I have the entire 2002 version on DVD and I watch it at least once a year.

Honestly I think the three part episode, "The Beginning", will make an awesome live action feature film.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

Wait, so pink tights and a purplish shirt aren't manly?!

I'm asking, for a friend.

 

[Thundarr]

Another question is how should Prince Adam be depicted? Should he have the pink tights/pants & the purplish shirt or should he have a more manly look?

Actually in the 1980's series, Prince Adam wore a skin tight white shirt, pink vest, and purple tights.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

I get the feeling I'm not on the same page as everyone else with this. People keep posting pics from the cartoon and the action figures, and I'm imagining something more along the lines of a Frazetta painting.

I don't want a repeat of Transformers or GI Joe or TMNT, I want someone to take the base MotU concept and turn it into something awesome, not just retread the same kiddie stuff from 30 years ago.

 

[the_ultimate_evil]

That looks like a good start. Anyway, specifics like "what shade of purple are Adam's pants?" are what costume tests are for.

BTW, I'm wondering how many people around this thread have even watched the 200x cartoon? Seems like it's not very many.

i have and i agree with pinky the next season would have been brilliant, sadly cartoon network had their heads up their ass's


trust me there are a lot more hardcore motu on here

 

[Thundarr]

I get the feeling I'm not on the same page as everyone else with this. People keep posting pics from the cartoon and the action figures, and I'm imagining something more along the lines of a Frazetta painting.

I don't want a repeat of Transformers or GI Joe or TMNT, I want someone to take the base MotU concept and turn it into something awesome, not just retread the same kiddie stuff from 30 years ago.

But at the same time you have to respect the source material. And the source material is a series of action figures and children's cartoons. I'm not saying to make a movie that only appeals to kids, but you have to take things like that into account. The studios also have to think about merchandising. Like the LOTR trilogy for example. The movies weren't exactly aimed towards kids, but there were action figures, strategy games, board games, video games, lunch boxes, etc, all designed to appeal to a younger demographic than the movies were aimed at. Similarly, Michael Bay's Transformer movies spawned a whole new line of toys, games, and even a new animated series.

The film makers need to keep such things in mind, because if not Mattel will never sign off on the new movie. That's why this movie has been in Development Hell for so long. Everyone who has written a script for the movie has ignored so much of the source material that Mattel has said "No, you're not making that movie" each and every time.

 

[Thundarr]

i have and i agree with pinky the next season would have been brilliant, sadly cartoon network had their heads up their ass's


trust me there are a lot more hardcore motu on here

It wasn't The Cartoon Network as much as it was Mattel behind the shows cancellation. Much like the original series, the 2002 reboot was designed to sell toys. Unfortunately the toys didn't exactly fly off of the shelves, so the series was cancelled after only it's third season. But quality wise, it was a much better series than the original 1980's series. Better artwork, better animation, better writing, better action, better everything.

 

[aNarcHy2day]

I get the feeling I'm not on the same page as everyone else with this. People keep posting pics from the cartoon and the action figures, and I'm imagining something more along the lines of a Frazetta painting.

I don't want a repeat of Transformers or GI Joe or TMNT, I want someone to take the base MotU concept and turn it into something awesome, not just retread the same kiddie stuff from 30 years ago.

With all due respect, I think you have it backwards. Of the three franchises you named, the closest to the source material is probably TMNT and seeing the liberties it took with the Turtles' origin and Shredder, that's saying something. Transformers had a very different feel to it compared to all the other things that came in the franchise before it and bastardized all that was loved about them. GI Joe 1 had hardly anything in common with the original source material.

So, as you put it, they all tried to take the base concept and turn it into something different but did not 'succeed'. I don't say it can't be done but the track record is poor.

 

[the_ultimate_evil]

It wasn't The Cartoon Network as much as it was Mattel behind the shows cancellation. Much like the original series, the 2002 reboot was designed to sell toys. Unfortunately the toys didn't exactly fly off of the shelves, so the series was cancelled after only it's third season. But quality wise, it was a much better series than the original 1980's series. Better artwork, better animation, better writing, better action, better everything.

While you are correct that the line failed due to mattels stupidity and case ratio in the smash/spin blade fiasco the fact that cn never give it a dedicated timeslott, went weeks before new episodes and didn't promote the show. Actually asking fans to create fan commercials didn't really help it

 

[Thundarr]

While you are correct that the line failed due to mattels stupidity and case ratio in the smash/spin blade fiasco the fact that cn never give it a dedicated timeslott, went weeks before new episodes and didn't promote the show. Actually asking fans to create fan commercials didn't really help it

I never realized that Cartoon Network had pulled a Firefly on the show. It was shown on a different network in Canada (Teletoon maybe? Or YTV?). But the fact remains that, just as the 1980's series, the show was intended as a vehicle to sell the toys. No toy sales = No show.

 

[Urich Leeds]

I get the feeling I'm not on the same page as everyone else with this. People keep posting pics from the cartoon and the action figures, and I'm imagining something more along the lines of a Frazetta painting.

I don't want a repeat of Transformers or GI Joe or TMNT, I want someone to take the base MotU concept and turn it into something awesome, not just retread the same kiddie stuff from 30 years ago.

Same. I want A LOTR meets Game of Thrones meets Thor look/feel for it (minus the sex and gore ).

Some real sword and scorcery type stuff.

 

[rogue trooper]

I get the feeling I'm not on the same page as everyone else with this. People keep posting pics from the cartoon and the action figures, and I'm imagining something more along the lines of a Frazetta painting.

I don't want a repeat of Transformers or GI Joe or TMNT, I want someone to take the base MotU concept and turn it into something awesome, not just retread the same kiddie stuff from 30 years ago.

I hear ya'. If not Frazetta, certainly Earl Norem. Yeah, I do think MOTU should be something between the Thor-films and GOTG. I don't know, but the way I see it, I think a He-Man film should have the heroic tone of Richard Donner's Superman or MOS and Captain America:TFA combined with the epic landscape of Jackson's Tolkien-Middle Earth and Thor's Asgard.

 

[Thundarr]

Well at least the movie won't be what's described here:

Http://files.feedplace.de/moviefeature/Interview-Alex-Litvak.mp3

This guy is the most clueless writer in the universe if he thinks the story he's describing is the He-Man movie that the people want to see (he starts talking about He-Man maybe 30 minutes or so into the interview, in case you want to skip the other stuff).

 

[rogue trooper]

Well at least the movie won't be what's described here:

Http://files.feedplace.de/moviefeature/Interview-Alex-Litvak.mp3

This guy is the most clueless writer in the universe if he thinks the story he's describing is the He-Man movie that the people want to see (he starts talking about He-Man maybe 30 minutes or so into the interview, in case you want to skip the other stuff).

His concept of what He-Man should be today sounds quite "iffy". This is kinda' why I hope Sony will first make Robert Rodriguez's Fire and Ice-remake and that it is successful, so that it proves to that type of mentality that Litvak displays is wrong.

 

[Thundarr]

His concept of what He-Man should be today sounds quite "iffy". This is kinda' why I hope Sony will first make Robert Rodriguez's Fire and Ice-remake and that it is successful, so that it proves to that type of mentality that Litvak displays is wrong.

Problem with that train of thought is the Character of Larn is supposed to be a lean and athletic type of warrior, exactly what Litvak thinks He-Man should be in his concept of a He-Man movie. He-Man should be a larger than life powerhouse. He should have a wrestler's/bodybuilder's physique, not a swimmer's/gymnast's like Larn.

 

[rogue trooper]

Problem with that train of thought is the Character of Larn is supposed to be a lean and athletic type of warrior, exactly what Litvak thinks He-Man should be in his concept of a He-Man movie. He-Man should be a larger than life powerhouse. He should have a wrestler's/bodybuilder's physique, not a swimmer's/gymnast's like Larn.

Well, I was also thinking in terms of his thoughts on He-Man wearing a loincloth, but true, Larn did have a lean physique(though things could change in the live action remake), though Darkwolf is quite beefier, ala Frazetta's or Buscema's Conan.

The bottom line is that I hope that He-Man's look isn't "radically" changed, and that when you see him we'll see, at least, him sporting some of the most recognizable traits that have made him so popular to fans, and not disregard them for being "dated", as was the case with John Carter(which I still much liked) in not going full Frazetta-look. I think Hawkman, for example, is a character whose had certain "tweaks" to his look over the years, but still maintains the core visual elements that make him iconic. It should be the same with He-Man.

 

[Sundancer]

Anyone else prefer the pre-cartoon He-man? The one with an axe, and no facial hair on Man-At-Arms?

Here's a taste if you haven't been exposed to it. I had this record...yes record, not tape.

[YT]jUmOLm_NLms[/YT]

 

[rogue trooper]

Anyone else prefer the pre-cartoon He-man? The one with an axe, and no facial hair on Man-At-Arms?

Here's a taste if you haven't been exposed to it. I had this record...yes record, not tape.

[YT]jUmOLm_NLms[/YT]

I personally wouldn't mind.

 

[Duke]

Just because of pure awesomeness.





[YT]watch?v=c5K9KdO8_S4[/YT]

 

[Duke]

Anyone else prefer the pre-cartoon He-man? The one with an axe, and no facial hair on Man-At-Arms?

Here's a taste if you haven't been exposed to it. I had this record...yes record, not tape.

[YT]jUmOLm_NLms[/YT]

The mini comics inserted with the packaged figures were great & had a less campy feel than the Filmation cartoons, I think they´d be great.

 

[the_ultimate_evil]

The mini comics inserted with the packaged figures were great & had a less campy feel than the Filmation cartoons, I think they´d be great.

a mixtures needed, because while its the hipster thing in motu fandom to say you only ever loved the mini comics and they are the true masters. the fact is no filmation, no transformation no major point in animation history