Grayskull: Masters of the Universe - Part 2

[HUMANIMAL]

IMO, I'd like to see Prince Adam as a scrawny teenager then when he transforms into He-Man, a muscle-bound adult... like the cartoon reboot in 2002

i see...he could play shazam then...

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

Is this movie ever going to happen?

 

[Thundarr]

I'd disagree Schwarzenegger wasn't a bad actor ever and he had a charisma that was captivating to audiences. Yes Conan was one of his breakout role but nobody gave him a franchise role because he was bodybuilder. Arnold by the time Conan had been released already appeared in nine movies. He dedicated himself to becoming an actor that can carry a movie.

I never said that Arnold was a bad actor, just not a great actor. He's good when he's in his comfort zone (action films), and with the right writing, directing, and supporting cast, he can even border on being great.

Conan wasn't intended to be a franchise film (at least not in the same sense as the MCU movies, it was intended to be more like the James Bond franchise). Neither was Terminator. They were both designed to work as stand alone films. Then if sequels happened, they happened.

My point is, don't prejudge Mike O'Hearn because he's "just a bodybuilder". If the writing, directing, and supporting cast is strong enough, and if he's charismatic enough, he might just pull it off.

And what nine movies had Arnold made by 1982? By my count he only made three, including Conan, and had a guest starring role on Streets Of San Francisco at that time. One of those movies was a documentary (Pumping Iron) and thus had little actual acting, and the other he'd rather everyone forgot ever existed (Hercules In New York).

 

[Panthro]

Maybe we should get Arnold to play King Grayskull while Dolph Lundgren plays King Randor.

 

[Paradox1]

I never said that Arnold was a bad actor, just not a great actor. He's good when he's in his comfort zone (action films), and with the right writing, directing, and supporting cast, he can even border on being great.

Conan wasn't intended to be a franchise film (at least not in the same sense as the MCU movies, it was intended to be more like the James Bond franchise). Neither was Terminator. They were both designed to work as stand alone films. Then if sequels happened, they happened.

My point is, don't prejudge Mike O'Hearn because he's "just a bodybuilder". If the writing, directing, and supporting cast is strong enough, and if he's charismatic enough, he might just pull it off.

And what nine movies had Arnold made by 1982? By my count he only made three, including Conan, and had a guest starring role on Streets Of San Francisco at that time. One of those movies was a documentary (Pumping Iron) and thus had little actual acting, and the other he'd rather everyone forgot ever existed (Hercules In New York).

I should of said Arnold appeared in film nine times. However whether or not Conan was a franchise making role it was a starring role in a major motion picture. My point is Arnold built a resume before he got the Conan part. It is easier for an actor to put on muscle than to have a bodybuilder learn on the job, how to act.

If you want a guy who looks like He-Man but can act. I'd look at WWE's Edge who has had a starring role on Syfy's Haven for a couple seasons now. He's isn't a great actor but I'd be more inclined to trust a guy whose been acting for the past several years.

 

[Thundarr]

I should of said Arnold appeared in film nine times. However whether or not Conan was a franchise making role it was a starring role in a major motion picture. My point is Arnold built a resume before he got the Conan part. It is easier for an actor to put on muscle than to have a bodybuilder learn on the job, how to act.

If you want a guy who looks like He-Man but can act. I'd look at WWE's Edge who has had a starring role on Syfy's Haven for a couple seasons now. He's isn't a great actor but I'd be more inclined to trust a guy whose been acting for the past several years.

I agree that it is easier for an actor to pack on muscle than it is to teach a bodybuilder how to act. But, as has been demonstrated earlier on this thread, Mike O'Hearn is not a complete novice when it comes to acting. He might not be a veteran actor, but he's roughly as experienced as Arnold was when he played Conan, or JCVD was when he played Frank Dux in Bloodsport (he had been in a few films before then, but not many). I'm just saying give the guy a chance, don't prejudge him. Remember, the root of the word "prejudiced" is "prejudge". So don't be prejudiced against Mr O'Hearn before he has a chance to prove himself, just because "he's only a bodybuilder".

And I've been saying all along that they should be looking to current and former WWE superstars as possible casting choices for many of the roles in He-Man. This is a movie based on a cartoon which was in turn based on a series of action figures, so naturally you're gonna want a cast of people who look like walking action figures. And there's nowhere that you'll find more of them than the WWE (except maybe TNA).

 

[HUMANIMAL]

they wqent to the gym's for the rest in 300...as for now...even if he don't get the part as he-man he might still get a role in the movie...maybe like ralph möller in gladiator. which solid actor could get in he-man shape to look the part?

 

[the_ultimate_evil]

you guys really are missing the point, that we dont need someone who is the size and shape of the action figure. just someone with a decent muscle mass.

guess what if we see he-man lift a mountain or punch someone over the horizon while claiming to be the most powerful man in the universe most arn't gonna go "well i don't believe that because he's not built like an inflated mr universe"

its worked so far with characters like superman

 

[HUMANIMAL]

so liam hemsworth would have worked instead of chris?
...i mean people complain about wonder woman being too skinny...but then comes always your argument....ooooh they have superpowers and i'd believe it even if they would look like a meat bag.

...c'mon a serious amount of bodytype casting has it's value too.....
i've read that they wanted a surfer playing he-man in the sequel because dolph lundgren hated it so much....a surfer?'? .....
what other actors could pull it off?
and what's decent muscle mass????

name a few....

 

[HUMANIMAL]

 

[HUMANIMAL]

john carter ...thats the closest we got so far on the silver screen...looks wise...he's maybe fit...but a built like this still looks to weak for he-man.

by the way the screenwriter from thor 2 and 3 is rewriting the script...

 

[HUMANIMAL]

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[Jordacar]

I'm wary about these casting rumors because, well, is Prince Adam gonna be in this? Have they even picked out a script yet? It seems ill-advised to nail down He-Man before it's clear exactly what He-Man is to this story they're telling.

 

[TheVileOne]

I'm wary about these casting rumors because, well, is Prince Adam gonna be in this? Have they even picked out a script yet? It seems ill-advised to nail down He-Man before it's clear exactly what He-Man is to this story they're telling.

Doesn't seem they've ever found a take they are happy with and they can't settle on one.

A previous writer who was on the project a while back, Alex Litwak, didn't like the idea of transformation, big muscular dude, etc. He said heroes don't look like He-Man anymore, they look like Adrien Brody, blah blah blah.

Other scripts I've read seem to struggle with how to execute the transformation from Adam to He-Man, how it should look come across. One script I read has Adam getting the sword, and he gradually starts growing muscular and swollen over the course of the narrative. Another one, the Justin Marks one, has him get the sword at the end and I guess it just gives him an armor level-up but that's it. It's not really a transformation into He-Man.

Of course, the original movie just had him as He-Man from the beginning and no actual transformation at all.

Thing is, the older adult fans are still connected the original cartoons and toys. Prince Adam, transformation, He-Man are big deals to them.

Movie executives don't get that. So you have a smaller teenage actor who with a sword can transform into an adultish muscle bound uber-mensch. In a cartoon you can do that, but how do you execute that on film? Do you get two actors? Can you shoot around that with visual FX?

But if he's He-Man from the start, there's no I Have the Power, there's no transformation, and those are some of the more beloved aspects of the character.

 

[TheVileOne]

Is this movie ever going to happen?

My wager? No it's not. I love the property, but it hasn't really been relevant since the 1980s. The reboots were never as successful like the Transformer ones. The only other live-action movie is hardly a classic, and it wasn't a hit either. So it's an existing, established brand, but it's not one that's super popular and lucrative with kids.

If you make a new movie, it can't be done for cheap. It's a huge investment. Sony currently has the movie rights, but they are sort of still in transition. Sounds like all the stuff from the internet leaks, Amy Pascal stepping down, rebooting Spider-Man again has sort of put them in a mode where they aren't just going to suddenly launch a new He-Man movie franchise.

 

[Airwings]

IMO, I'd like to see Prince Adam as a scrawny teenager then when he transforms into He-Man, a muscle-bound adult... like the cartoon reboot in 2002

That's a must. Adam should be included, and NOT as a muscular dude

 

[Thundarr]

Doesn't seem they've ever found a take they are happy with and they can't settle on one.

A previous writer who was on the project a while back, Alex Litwak, didn't like the idea of transformation, big muscular dude, etc. He said heroes don't look like He-Man anymore, they look like Adrien Brody, blah blah blah.

Other scripts I've read seem to struggle with how to execute the transformation from Adam to He-Man, how it should look come across. One script I read has Adam getting the sword, and he gradually starts growing muscular and swollen over the course of the narrative. Another one, the Justin Marks one, has him get the sword at the end and I guess it just gives him an armor level-up but that's it. It's not really a transformation into He-Man.

Of course, the original movie just had him as He-Man from the beginning and no actual transformation at all.

Thing is, the older adult fans are still connected the original cartoons and toys. Prince Adam, transformation, He-Man are big deals to them.

Movie executives don't get that. So you have a smaller teenage actor who with a sword can transform into an adultish muscle bound uber-mensch. In a cartoon you can do that, but how do you execute that on film? Do you get two actors? Can you shoot around that with visual FX?

But if he's He-Man from the start, there's no I Have the Power, there's no transformation, and those are some of the more beloved aspects of the character.

Very well put.

 

[terry78]

As I said before, with CG you can do it. The cartoons only had him as He-Man when he needed to be, he wasn't in that mode 24/7 so CG could work a la Captain America or Benjamin Button, etc. Just have the actor be kind of leaner guy and He-Man a mocap thing.

 

[Lone]

As I said before, with CG you can do it. The cartoons only had him as He-Man when he needed to be, he wasn't in that mode 24/7 so CG could work a la Captain America or Benjamin Button, etc. Just have the actor be kind of leaner guy and He-Man a mocap thing.

I agree. CA: TFA already proves this method can work. Only I'd jack the actor up and cg his Prince Adam.

 

[Alien Anal]

What about a prosthetic body suit with some slight cgi enhancements

 

[Lord]

Hopefuly they won't go with the secret identity angle, that was completely pointless.

 

[Jordacar]

Here's the way I'd do the it: focus on casting Prince Adam, since that actor's gonna handle the majority of the performance. Then they can find a muscleman that bears some resemblance to Adam, and the younger actor would also dub He-Man's voice.

Hopefuly they won't go with the secret identity angle, that was completely pointless.

I love secret identities. It didn't make a ton of sense in the context of the series, sure, but it's far from the only strange thing that the filmmakers will have to make work onscreen.

 

[TheVileOne]

Here's the way I'd do the it: focus on casting Prince Adam, since that actor's gonna handle the majority of the performance. Then they can find a muscleman that bears some resemblance to Adam, and the younger actor would also dub He-Man's voice.I love secret identities. It didn't make a ton of sense in the context of the series, sure, but it's far from the only strange thing that the filmmakers will have to make work onscreen.

That's not going to happen. Also, if he dubs over He-Man's voice, doesn't that make the secret identity quite obvious?

They aren't going to get some straight on bodybuilder for He-Man either. They will get an actor who is naturally tall and big and can get bulked up like Chris Hemsworth in Thor.

 

[Rowsdower!]

Hopefuly they won't go with the secret identity angle, that was completely pointless.

Agreed. Though a whole lot of the fans seem to want to see it. I never really understood it because Prince Adam and He-Man looked exactly the same in the cartoon.

 

[TheVileOne]

The transformation is beloved because it's iconic. Also, it's slight wish fulfillment. You have a magical sword that you can say some magic words and it gives you cool awesome powers.

Robert Rodriguez once explained why kids love Power Rangers. Because the Power Rangers are teenagers, and kids like seeing other kids not much older than them get cool powers and become superheroes. They live vicariously through the Power Rangers. The idea that a kid can be empowered to do cool and awesome thing.

It's the same thing with He-Man. Prince Adam is this young kid, but he gets a sword and transforms into an ultimate hero. What kid doesn't want to do that?