Green Lantern reboot ideas.

There were a lot of rumors to that effect, but there was nothing to suggest that it would build anything but the Lanternverse that Johns spearheaded. It's pretty obvious now that GL was it's own experiment like Superman Returns, while Man of Steel was square 1 for the DCCU.

Agreed. If anything, the GL movie should help WB learn from their mistakes. They seem to be doing a better job involving worldbuilding/storytelling so I guess it worked.:woot:
 
http://www.dccomics.com/
scroll down and take a look at the characters featured underneath the "whos who" text. Hal Jordan features there, not John Stewart.

DC comics doesn't really care for John Stewart, if they did, and if he was so much more successful, he'd be leading his own successful comics series instead of Hal.

Hal is one of the big 5. John Stewart isn't.

DC is focusing only on Hal Jordan. They want his character to be successful, not John Stewart.
 
His bias towards John Stewart stems from the JL animated series, where he got almost all of his Green Lantern exposure.

I personally thought John Stewart wasn't very interesting in the animated series, but I still think using John Stewart would be a good idea for a movie.
But for the movies, the fact that John is black, and would attract black moviegoers, is a reason to put him in a movie. The fact that Idris Elba is interested is another plus as well.

John Stewart is an inferior character with less development than Hal Jordan. Undeniable. Completely undeniable. But he still may be the better choice for live action

I don't think that John's inferior to Hal as much as he's not even close to Hal's notoriety. Even as a hardcore Kyle Rayner fan, I wouldn't state that Kyle is even close to Hal's level of name recognition. When DC decided to bring Hal back, it was because he is synonymous with Green Lantern.

Moreover, it would be insulting to John Stewart to include him in JLA as an afterthought or a token. That character has been around for 30 years, he deserves better than being introduced as the understudy.
 
http://www.dccomics.com/
scroll down and take a look at the characters featured underneath the "whos who" text. Hal Jordan features there, not John Stewart.

DC comics doesn't really care for John Stewart, if they did, and if he was so much more successful, he'd be leading his own successful comics series instead of Hal.

Hal is one of the big 5. John Stewart isn't.

DC is focusing only on Hal Jordan. They want his character to be successful, not John Stewart.

What are you talking about? Simon Baz is Green Lantern. :woot:
 
I don't think that John's inferior to Hal as much as he's not even close to Hal's notoriety. Even as a hardcore Kyle Rayner fan, I wouldn't state that Kyle is even close to Hal's level of name recognition. When DC decided to bring Hal back, it was because he is synonymous with Green Lantern.

Moreover, it would be insulting to John Stewart to include him in JLA as an afterthought or a token. That character has been around for 30 years, he deserves better than being introduced as the understudy.

I think the mass audience have largely forgotten Hal Jordan and John Steward can't be classed as token considering his popularity with JL/JLU.
 
I don't think that John's inferior to Hal as much as he's not even close to Hal's notoriety. Even as a hardcore Kyle Rayner fan, I wouldn't state that Kyle is even close to Hal's level of name recognition. When DC decided to bring Hal back, it was because he is synonymous with Green Lantern.

Moreover, it would be insulting to John Stewart to include him in JLA as an afterthought or a token. That character has been around for 30 years, he deserves better than being introduced as the understudy.

I won't say anyone is generally inferior to another but to put it in simple terms, Hal is THE lantern, and this is someone who grew up up on Morrison's JLA with Kyle as the GL. I don't hate John(despite his boring personality) but it does get annoying when people like brainchild talk trash out of their a$$ to assert negative opinions.
 
I think the mass audience have largely forgotten Hal Jordan and John Steward can't be classed as token considering his popularity with JL/JLU.

Hal Jordan was part of DC's Flashpoint DVD. He's the Lantern in next year's Justice League: War DVD. He's part of Target's DC comics campaign.

The JLA 'toon, as good as it was, isn't something on which WB can rely. John didn't even have an origin story there. It only gave him (and Wally, for that matter) minimal development. If WB plans to use John, they must begin immediately introducing him to the GA sheeple. Right now, every time GL is presented outside of the comics, this is what they see:




I won't say anyone is generally inferior to another but to put it in simple terms, Hal is THE lantern, and this is someone who grew up up on Morrison's JLA with Kyle as the GL. I don't hate John(despite his boring personality) but it does get annoying when people like brainchild talk trash out of their a$$ to assert negative opinions.

I couldn't agree more. Kyle is my favorite DC character, but if we put him, John, Guy, and Alan together, they wouldn't have the combined name recognition that Jordan has alone.
 
Anyone trying to defend Hal from brainchild is in for a huge annoyance. He's pretty ignorant to the character in the comics and has admitted that. He's pretty ignorant to the character in general.
lol! Anybody getting hugely annoyed should do some self reflection &realize that their fanboy is showing. Hal is a FICTIONAL CHARACTER, not your pop. Come on, man. It's not that serious, is it? You taking this personal? LMFAO That's bad & you should feel bad. Anybody who can't handle a difference in opinion on a fictional character that they like should leave forums altogether. If my unkind words about some guy drawn on paper are hurting your feelings, feel free to put me on your ignore list, I'll understand :)

I don't agree w/that "ignorant to the character in general" part. I can say that I don't know much about Hal's comics because they never drew me(or most people on Earth) in. I'm just not invested. I've seen the animated movies & most animated series that he was used in. I watched the 1st ep of his canceled animated series before I gave up on it. I know enough about him to know he's not for everybody.
In the comics, Hal Jordan is the better character. You're ignorant to Hal in the comics, brainchild, you've admitted this, so don't bother arguing this. in the comics, Hal is the superior character, with the most development and the most stories. He's just had more focus placed on him, and more talented writers and artists. You can't deny that Hal is the better character in the comics.

But for the movies, the fact that John is black, and would attract black moviegoers, is a reason to put him in a movie. The fact that Idris Elba is interested is another plus as well.

John Stewart is an inferior character with less development than Hal Jordan. Undeniable. Completely undeniable. But he still may be the better choice for live action
I don't think you're thinking about it the right way. "Better" is purely opinion. Let's say DC stops caring about Bruce &Batman stories take a massive turn for the worse & Supes is getting very good ones. Is Supes suddenly the better character? Nope. It's just another case of a good character getting shafted. JS is getting shafted because as you said
DC is focusing only on Hal Jordan. They want his character to be successful, not John Stewart.
. We agree 100% on that. As I said b4, they tried to off him & it pissed the writer off so much that he quit. Guess what. The writer who quit was NOT black. Mind-blowing isn't it? JS would also attract nonblack moviegoers who enjoy him on JLU and/or the comics. He even has white fans! Amazing!

The point was that Hal's costume was considered too goofy for a movie when in fact heroes have worn even goofier costumes and have been awesome regardless. And comparing Hal to Bats is good and fine. He is part of DC's top five(unlike poor John :oldrazz:) And your many levels nonsense just speak loads of your BS. Batman is the most popular but that doesn't mean he can't be compared to other heroes to make points. And I don't care what you think about Hal cus you know next to nothing about him, and are just riding off one BS to another to make points that have been countered before. And your reasoning is simply awful. Look at it: "Hal's character isn't interesting-Why? Because I say so. I'm not even going to bring any reason supporting my claim but he just is." Try again and maybe even harder cus most of what you're saying just falls short of an absolute fail
U should be proud of yourself because it's extremely rare that one of your posts falls short of an absolute fail :) Your point would be better made w/examples. What movie had critical & financial success w/a goofier looking hero than Hal? I've already said why I don't find him interesting. Feel free to look back over it. None of my points have been countered yet. Example? I've no problem w/you finding him interesting. I don't. You might wanna get used to it. It's my opinion & nothing posted here has given me reason to change it. &don't fool yourself, you care plenty what I think. Every reply shows it. You already spoke of being annoyed
it does get annoying when people like brainchild talk trash out of their a$$ to assert negative opinions.
lol. Y'all Hal fanboys crack me up
He means nothing? I guess you'd be right if he wasn't in a slew of successful video games/animated shows/animated movies. And really having a movie that sucks doesn't really take away from him. I've forgotten it, the audience's forgotten it, DC's forgotten it
DC's forgotten it? lol & you think I'm posting BS?! Your fanboyism is hilarious!
Nah. After losing all that money they better remember the hell out of it so they can learn from it. You haven't forgotten it either. You wish you did(so do I & many other people unlucky enough to have seen that garbage), but you haven't. Otherwise you wouldn't be saying it sucks. I don't remember the GL game or the GL series being successful. What are you talking about? The series got scrapped & I don't remember hearing about Hal's game being a good seller.
 
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I don't think Hal any more popularity with the mass audience than John Stewart. I seriously don't think the name 'Hal Jordan' left any impression on the few people that went to see GL. If WB/DC are weighing up which Green Lantern to put in the JL movie, popularity for Hal (imho) is a non issue.

John = Diversity.
Kyle = Youth.
Hal = Most known? I don't think so.

I liken it to Barry vs Wally, imho there are on equal footing with regards to public awareness.
 
If you want to look at it like that.. pros and cons of the different Lanterns

Alan Scott
pros: he was the first Green Lantern, he 'd add diversity as a gay superhero,
cons: he isn't really associated with the Justice League, he's more known for the JSA, no real definitive arcs that would be adaptable for a movie

Kyle Rayner
pros: adds diversity as he's half Mexican, the storyline of Hal being infected by Parallax and Kyle inheriting the ring would be interesting, it would be like Star Wars
cons: that storyline would be more enjoyable if it established Hal as the first Green Lantern too, for Kyle to work, Hal is required, his introduction is too lenient on another character

John Stewart
pros: diversity, ties to the amazing JL animated series, basing a movie off Mosaic could actually be pretty interesting.
cons: boring origin, loosely defined in comics, only has one decent storyline as the lead

Hal Jordan
pros: the best Green Lantern stories feature Hal as the lead, his personality is well defined and fits well within the context of the Justice League, most media exposure other than JL animated series features Hal
cons: he's tied to a terrible movie

I think Hal and John both should be the leads of the next GL solo movie.
I hope Hal is the Green Lantern on the Justice League though
 
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I don't think Hal any more popularity with the mass audience than John Stewart.
Hal = Most known? I don't think so.

I liken it to Barry vs Wally, imho there are on equal footing with regards to public awareness.

I don't even know how to respond to this, but I'll try a simple game of "headliner":

Number of non-comic media adaptations where Hal Jordan has been the central figure:

Green Lantern: The Animated Series
Green Lantern: Live-action movie
Green Lantern: Emerald Knights
Green Lantern: First Flight

John Stewart: None


Barry Allen is now set to headline his 2nd live-action TV series, and 2014 will mark the 4th time he's featured in a JLA animated movie. Wally has neither.

Wally and John simply aren't close to Hal and Barry in terms of incarnations outside the comics. They aren't even close to being close.
 
They'll probably use Hal (and Cyborg), if their current push of Hal in the comics is any indication.

(though that could always change in the next few years before the JL movie, especially since Johns is done his GL run. Plus, maybe Hal, as the leader of the Corps, will be too busy to rejoin the League...).

And although I'm also a fan of Hal, I think they should use John for the Justice League movie. I think he would get more GAs sold on the idea of GA as an awesome superhero.

And I know this is just one poll, but:
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/06/29/hero-worship-who-should-be-the-new-live-action-green-lantern

Reintroduce Hal in the GLCorps solo flick along with John as dual leads (ala Kirk and Spock in Star Trek).
 
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lol! Anybody getting hugely annoyed should do some self reflection &realize that their fanboy is showing. Hal is a FICTIONAL CHARACTER, not your pop. Come on, man. It's not that serious, is it? You taking this personal? LMFAO That's bad & you should feel bad. Anybody who can't handle a difference in opinion on a fictional character that they like should leave forums altogether. If my unkind words about some guy drawn on paper are hurting your feelings, feel free to put me on your ignore list, I'll understand :).

This paragraph can be easily translated into one sentence. Translation: I know next to nothing about a character some of you like, but I don't like him so I'll insult him because I'm an annoying troll. Was the translation on par with the cr** you're saying.:woot:

I don't agree w/that "ignorant to the character in general" part. I can say that I don't know much about Hal's comics because they never drew me(or most people on Earth) in. I'm just not invested. I've seen the animated movies & most animated series that he was used in. I watched the 1st ep of his canceled animated series before I gave up on it. I know enough about him to know he's not for everybody.

You're probably lying here, but seriously? You watched one episode and then immediately determine when a character is bad. You're pretty sad.:whatever:
And how exactly does a guy know next to nothing about a character determine he isn't for everybody.

We agree 100% on that. As I said b4, they tried to off him & it pissed the writer off so much that he quit. Guess what. The writer who quit was NOT black. Mind-blowing isn't it? JS would also attract nonblack moviegoers who enjoy him on JLU and/or the comics. He even has white fans! Amazing!

Lol.:doh: No one tried to kill John. If DC wanted him dead, he'd be dead. ANd pls stop bringing race into the discussion. I don't care if you're black, stop asserting only one specific race will like a certain character. Nothing stops a black person from liking a white character and vice versa. Seriously you're reaching mundane levels.

U should be proud of yourself because it's extremely rare that one of your posts falls short of an absolute fail :) Your point would be better made w/examples. What movie had critical & financial success w/a goofier looking hero than Hal? I've already said why I don't find him interesting. Feel free to look back over it. None of my points have been countered yet. Example? I've no problem w/you finding him interesting. I don't. You might wanna get used to it. It's my opinion & nothing posted here has given me reason to change it. &don't fool yourself, you care plenty what I think. Every reply shows it. You already spoke of being annoyedlol.

:yay:Oh wow, you turned your reply into a joke cus you were incapable of making an ineffective counter-argument. Why am I not surprised--:cwink:I'm really not, this is pretty much expected of you. Um Superman with his dumb underwear and cape, Spiderman as well, Batman did that too, and the list goes on. The funny thing is that unlike those costumes, Hal's doesn't impede sight or movement, and looks very formal considering his job. Weird how you're attacking his look when he's wear isn't far from Johns. Seriously? Now you're just scraping the bottom of the barrel looking for dumb reasons to hate. None of your points have been countered? Sorry dreamboy, but in the real world, they have been. I should know. I countered them.:yay:

Y'all Hal fanboys crack me up.

And you clearly don't know the definition of fanboy.

DC's forgotten it? lol & you think I'm posting BS?! Your fanboyism is hilarious!
Nah. After losing all that money they better remember the hell out of it so they can learn from it. You haven't forgotten it either. You wish you did(so do I & many other people unlucky enough to have seen that garbage), but you haven't. Otherwise you wouldn't be saying it sucks. I don't remember the GL game or the GL series being successful. What are you talking about? The series got scrapped & I don't remember hearing about Hal's game being a good seller.

I've forgotten it. I should know cus you know, I'me. DC has and so has the audience as well. If you have any evidence to contrary bring it. You on the other hand can remember it all you want--hey more pain on your part. Video game department, I was primarily talking about Injustice, though Hal's video game got moderately positive reviews. And as for the animated series, it was pretty f******* awesome.:word:

They'll probably use Hal (and Cyborg), if their current push of Hal in the comics is any indication.

(though that could always change in the next few years before the JL movie, especially since Johns is done his GL run. Plus, maybe Hal, as the leader of the Corps, will be too busy to rejoin the League..

Geoff already said Hal's returning to the league next year. Plus if any lantern's replacing Hal, then it probably will be the new up and coming lantern Geoff will create--Jessica Cruz.
 
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This paragraph can be easily translated into one sentence. Translation: I know next to nothing about a character some of you like, but I don't like him so I'll insult him because I'm an annoying troll. Was the translation on par with the cr** you're saying.:woot:
It didn't need translation. Anyone w/good reading comprehension can grasp what I said easily. You probably should read it again & concentrate.
You're probably lying here,
Stop right there. You've said some pretty dumb stuff before, but you just topped yourself w/that one. Why would I start lying now? If I was that type of person I would've lied &said I'd read a whole bunch of Hal's books to start off with. I've seen almost all the animated DC films. It's one of the few things DC trumps Marvel in. Part of me feels like this is my fault for not coming down on you harder when you 1st said something about people who like John more being dumb or some asinine talk like that. I let most of your lame insults slide because I figured it was all in good fun, but now that I know you're saying this stuff outta some childish fanboy rage against me because I insulted a fictional character that you like, I'm gonna start helping you become a better poster by pointing out how wrong you are. :) Don't wuss out. I want you to own up to everything so you can learn. I'm gonna give you a chance to take that one back. It was quite uncalled for AND stupid. You should think before you start accusing people of lies. You should think before you post, period. You'd seem a lot smarter.
but seriously? You watched one episode and then immediately determine when a character is bad. You're pretty sad.:whatever:
Again w/the poor reading comprehension. That's pretty sad. I challenge you to show me what part of my post says anything like that. Pay attention. This isn't rocket science, kid. I thought he was lame waaaay b4 his show even started. I was watching that episode to give Hal another chance. It's Bruce Timm. I figured he'd find a way to make Hal not seem so lame to me. I quit when I saw that it wasn't working. There was too much for me not to like, including the CG animation style. Just remembered I came back for the Guy episode. Was awesome seeing him make fun of Hal's silly mask :)
:doh: No one tried to kill John. If DC wanted him dead, he'd be dead.
How about you look into it & come back when you know more about what happened, genius? It was kind of a thing a while back after the writer quit.
ANd pls stop bringing race into the discussion. I don't care if you're black, stop asserting only one specific race will like a certain character. Nothing stops a black person from liking a white character and vice versa. Seriously you're reaching mundane levels.
This is moronic. It seems like you're actually getting worse. I think you should just stop altogether & focus more on understanding what you read. This is getting ridiculous. I challenge you to show me asserting anything like that. Don't be a copout. Go ahead, quote me. Let everybody see it. This habit you have of falsely accusing me of things is stupid,annoying and could be easily avoided if you could simply understand what the hell you're reading. Rorschach was the one who came close to treading into that territory in another thread, not me. (Funny, I don't remember you saying anything at all to him about it. Why is that?) He later caught himself & apologized. He recently started talking about race in relation to liking a character again. He probably did that in a moment of fanboy rage but when he cooled down(we should never post angry) a bit he did the right thing & edited it out(see his nevermind post). My reply to him will hopefully deter him from approaching that kind of territory again. It's not good for any of us
:yay:Oh wow, you turned your reply into a joke cus you were incapable of making an ineffective counter-argument. Why am I not surprised--:cwink:I'm really not, this is pretty much expected of you. Um Superman with his dumb underwear and cape, Spiderman as well, Batman did that too, and the list goes on. The funny thing is that unlike those costumes, Hal's doesn't impede sight or movement, and looks very formal considering his job. Weird how you're attacking his look when he's wear isn't far from Johns. Seriously? Now you're just scraping the bottom of the barrel looking for dumb reasons to hate. None of your points have been countered? Sorry dreamboy, but in the real world, they have been. I should know. I countered them.:yay:
You really haven't. In the real world, you have to be able to understand what you read 1st in order to counter it & we already know that's a BIG problem for you, kid :(

Spidey is waaay cooler than Hal. Spidey is an icon & his costume is way cooler than Hal's. Spidey's mask doesn't look stupid in live action like Hal's does.

I can tolerate them, but I'm honestly not a huge fan of capes either. I like the Bats & Supes costumes I've seen sans capes more(Huge fan of the Beyond suit). Bats & Supes had no trunks when they last went into live action. Hal still wears the dumbass domino mask. John doesn't wear the goofy mask. I'm not really a fan of the gloves Hal wears either. They look out of place. Hal's costume was closer to John's JLU costume in 1st Flight. He's never looked cooler than he did in that movie IMO

And you clearly don't know the definition of fanboy
IIRC getting upset because someone has an opinion about a FICTIONAL character you like that you don't agree with is one of the traits of a fanboy.
I've forgotten it. I should know cus you know, I'me. DC has and so has the audience as well. If you have any evidence to contrary bring it. You on the other hand can remember it all you want--hey more pain on your part. Video game department, I was primarily talking about Injustice, though Hal's video game got moderately positive reviews. And as for the animated series, it was pretty f******* awesome.:word:
Nah. You made the original & ridiculous claim that WB/DC'd forgotten it. That means burden of proof is on you. That's how claims work on forums, kid. You'd be better off just giving up and admitting you said something silly tho. I imagine you'd have a really hard time finding proof that they've forgotten about a failed film they spent hundreds of millions of dollars on. I remember you posting the stuff you didn't like about it not too long ago. I guess you just forgot about it this week? You're hilarious, kid.

I'm not gonna talk much about the quality or lack thereof of his animated series. It's a matter of opinion &in mine it was uninteresting & one of Timm's worst projects. It was a failure though because it only got one season & didn't do what WB wanted it to
 
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This is getting ridiculous. I challenge you to show me asserting anything like that. Don't be a copout. Go ahead, quote me. Let everybody see it. This habit you have of falsely accusing me of things is stupid,annoying and could be easily avoided if you could simply understand what the hell you're reading. Rorschach was the one who came close to treading into that territory in another thread, not me. (Funny, I don't remember you saying anything at all to him about it. Why is that?) He later caught himself & apologized. He recently started talking about race in relation to liking a character again. He probably did that in a moment of fanboy rage but when he cooled down(we should never post angry) a bit he did the right thing & edited it out(see his nevermind post). My reply to him will hopefully deter him from approaching that kind of territory again. It's not good for any of us

Now i have to defend this. I became a Batman fan when I was a young child, like 3 or 4. Just like Robin, i was a young white kid with dark hair. Because of this, I related to him just a bit more, because he looked like me and that seemed cool. My childish dream was to one day play Robin in a movie. i don't think it's a racist insinuation to say that children to relate more to superheroes that look similar to them. That's all I was trying to suggest. Because of this, there SHOULD be more diversity in the DC characters. I'm not saying I only enjoy characters that are of the same race as me, but when I was a kid, something that stupid made me like the character more.

You mentioned that you used to watch JL/JLU, I'm assuming you were a kid then, is it really that touchy of a territory to suggest that MAYBE some other kids out there related to John Stewart like i did with Robin?

It's lame that the biggest superheroes for kids to look up to are only white characters. There needs to be a much bigger focus on minority characters at DC and Marvel. There should be major heroes of all different races for kids to look up to. And it's also pretty stupid that arguably the coolest minority hero has "black" in his name :dry: Something needs to be done about the lack of minority characters at DC and Marvel, but still, I don't think the solution is to focus on John Stewart instead of Hal.

I really think we're going to see Cyborg in Justice League. I bet it'll be the new 52 team.
 
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I think there was more to your post than just that. Why'd you delete it then?

Do you realize some of the people calling for John the most aren't black? There are many John fans who never gave a damn about GLs period before that show came out. They're not all black.

I like War Machine, but I think IronMan is a better character because he's more interesting to me. I don't wanna see Tony yanked from Avengers so they can put Rhodie in it. It's not really about race for me. It's about seeing the characters who I'd like to see in live action the most(& also not seeing the characters who I never wanted to see in live action :) ). If I thought Barry was lame I'd be talking all about how Wally's best for a JL flick(I'd still prefer him, but Barry's cool too. I grew up w/Barry). I want JS in the films because I find him to be the most interesting GL & he'd look cooler in live action than Hal did, not because his skin is darker than Hal's. Hell, I'd rather see Guy in live action than Hal. I'd rather see MM used in JL than Cyborg & he's green. John just seems like the best choice to me because he's interesting, popular w/non GL readers, & has a better look for live action. Solving DC films "diversity problem" is just a bonus
 
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From a business POV, the biggest draw of John is that he's not Hal Jordan (very obviously so). It makes redeeming the GL brand that much easier.

He's got more than enough to his character to make him interesting for the JL movie.

So how 'bout Cyborg and John Stewart in the JL movie. :)

(I know it'll be Hal :( ).
 
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I'd accept JS & Cyborg even though I've become extremely interested in this idea I've heard from another poster on SHH about the Army guy(same dude they had announce Batman being in Supes next movie) who got pissed at Supes for messing up the satellite being MM in disguise.

I think they're gonna go w/Hal too but there's still time for them to come to their senses. If they're not gonna use John I'd honestly prefer they just leave GL out of it. I'd like to be excited about this film, but I really don't see myself paying to see a JL film if the only 2 people I really care about are Bats & Flash. If they go w/the new 52 roster they can count me out. I'd want it to flop.
 
Wow, when it comes to moronity, you take the cake. I could walk away from this like a plague but I think I'll indulge in your delusions and play around a bit.:yay:

It didn't need translation. Anyone w/good reading comprehension can grasp what I said easily. You probably should read it again & concentrate.

Just did. My translation still stands. For all your "mature" talk, you sound pathetic and sad. Hating sth you hardly even know about.:whatever:

Stop right there. You've said some pretty dumb stuff before, but you just topped yourself w/that one. Why would I start lying now? If I was that type of person I would've lied &said I'd read a whole bunch of Hal's books to start off with. I've seen almost all the animated DC films. It's one of the few things DC trumps Marvel in. Part of me feels like this is my fault for not coming down on you harder when you 1st said something about people who like John more being dumb or some asinine talk like that. I let most of your lame insults slide because I figured it was all in good fun, but now that I know you're saying this stuff outta some childish fanboy rage against me because I insulted a fictional character that you like, I'm gonna start helping you become a better poster by pointing out how wrong you are. :) Don't wuss out. I want you to own up to everything so you can learn. I'm gonna give you a chance to take that one back. It was quite uncalled for AND stupid. You should think before you start accusing people of lies. You should think before you post, period. You'd seem a lot smarter.

Lols, this paragraph is absolutely hilarious, and not even in a complementary way. First off, I don't need advice from you. Asking advice from you on how to post, is like attending a sunday school class being taught by the devil, and asking him questions on how to be well-behaved. Your posts are insufferable, dumb, and proof that the internet even in the year 2013, still contains trolls who know jac*****. Second you're either lying or just plain dumb, and I hope for your sake its the former. No one in their right mind can watch one episode of GLTAS(the first one for that matter) and proclaim all the BS you've posted while feeling justified. You're either trying to show as if you gave Hal a chance or just plain dumb.

Again w/the poor reading comprehension. That's pretty sad. I challenge you to show me what part of my post says anything like that. Pay attention. This isn't rocket science, kid. I thought he was lame waaaay b4 his show even started. I was watching that episode to give Hal another chance. It's Bruce Timm. I figured he'd find a way to make Hal not seem so lame to me. I quit when I saw that it wasn't working. There was too much for me not to like, including the CG animation style. Just remembered I came back for the Guy episode. Was awesome seeing him make fun of Hal's silly mask :)

Hmm, slipping in old age are we:yay:. Let me refresh your memory: " I watched the 1st ep of his canceled animated series before I gave up on it. I know enough about him to know he's not for everybody." I wonder if this makes you a liar or a hypocrite. I think I'll go with both to be on the safe side.:wow:

How about you look into it & come back when you know more about what happened, genius? It was kind of a thing a while back after the writer quit.

How about you keep quiet, and let people who actually know what they're talking about talk about it. http://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/04/18/what-exactly-did-robert-venditti-say-about-plans-to-kill-off-john-stewart/
This is the link. They were nothing but silly rumours. If DC wanted John dead, he'd be dead and there would be absolutely nothing you'd be able to do about it.:o

This is moronic. It seems like you're actually getting worse. I think you should just stop altogether & focus more on understanding what you read. This is getting ridiculous. I challenge you to show me asserting anything like that. Don't be a copout. Go ahead, quote me. Let everybody see it. This habit you have of falsely accusing me of things is stupid,annoying and could be easily avoided if you could simply understand what the hell you're reading. Rorschach was the one who came close to treading into that territory in another thread, not me. (Funny, I don't remember you saying anything at all to him about it. Why is that?) He later caught himself & apologized. He recently started talking about race in relation to liking a character again. He probably did that in a moment of fanboy rage but when he cooled down(we should never post angry) a bit he did the right thing & edited it out(see his nevermind post). My reply to him will hopefully deter him from approaching that kind of territory again. It's not good for any of us

Christ lord, I feel I'm talking to a one year old. Here and I quote:"Guess what. The writer who quit was NOT black. Mind-blowing isn't it? JS would also attract nonblack moviegoers who enjoy him on JLU and/or the comics. He even has white fans! Amazing!" This whole statement implies John as being the only person blacks and whites would come to watch. Word your stuff better, and if you can't, don't bring it in at all. Geez. Yo're terrible around issues like this. No wonder Rorshcach called you out.

You really haven't. In the real world, you have to be able to understand what you read 1st in order to counter it & we already know that's a BIG problem for you, kid :(

Spidey is waaay cooler than Hal. Spidey is an icon & his costume is way cooler than Hal's. Spidey's mask doesn't look stupid in live action like Hal's does.

I can tolerate them, but I'm honestly not a huge fan of capes either. I like the Bats & Supes costumes I've seen sans capes more(Huge fan of the Beyond suit). Bats & Supes had no trunks when they last went into live action. Hal still wears the dumbass domino mask. John doesn't wear the goofy mask. I'm not really a fan of the gloves Hal wears either. They look out of place. Hal's costume was closer to John's JLU costume in 1st Flight. He's never looked cooler than he did in that movie IMO

Once again that brain of yours seems to think brainchild07 = we. Just stop it cus its really getting sad. I mean, its already pathetic, but now you're just reaching.

Spidey's costume is silly. Its incredibly hard to see through, talk through and hear through, not to mention the nasty rash it would give him. But you and I love it anyway cus they're superheroes, and they don't exist in our world and also due to escapism and such. The fact that you think its silly for whatever dumb reason you make up doesn't mean it is silly. Its subjective. If you don't like it, fine, but don't talk out of your a$$ as if its too silly for a live adaptation when Captain America wears wingtips and Spidey has bugeyes. And really you're bringing the term icon into the discussion? Iron man was nothing close to an icon when he's movie was released. Now he's had a successful trilogy and headlined the Avengers. You don't need to be loved by the GA prior to a movie for them to watch the movie. Just put a good superhero flick and people would watch it. A concept which escapes you for some reason.

IIRC getting upset because someone has an opinion about a FICTIONAL character you like that you don't agree with is one of the traits of a fanboy.

Your opinions are tepid and baseless. You might as well be throwing throwing rocks at your computer screen cus neither's really helping you on your point.

Nah. You made the original & ridiculous claim that WB/DC'd forgotten it. That means burden of proof is on you. That's how claims work on forums, kid. You'd be better off just giving up and admitting you said something silly tho. I imagine you'd have a really hard time finding proof that they've forgotten about a failed film they spent hundreds of millions of dollars on. I remember you posting the stuff you didn't like about it not too long ago. I guess you just forgot about it this week? You're hilarious, kid.

I'm not gonna talk much about the quality or lack thereof of his animated series. It's a matter of opinion &in mine it was uninteresting & one of Timm's worst projects. It was a failure though because it only got one season & didn't do what WB wanted it to

They have forgotten it. People like looking for any reason to tarnish Hal hold the movie tightly to their chest as a sort of weapon. I've yet to see DC/WB even reference the movie or even give it thought. Like a corporation with common sense, they are looking forward to the future and aren't carrying any old baggage or looking/referencing at past failures. If you have any proof they still hold it tight and blame it on Hal then pls bring it, cus right now, the only thing you're achieving is making me lose hope you'll ever make sense.:woot:

Subjective.
 
I think there was more to your post than just that. There really wasn't. Why'd you delete it then? Because I knew it would provoke you since you're such a hot head.

You call people out for getting too fired up about this, but you're the one making a fool of himself and doing the very thing you're calling people out on. Your frustration shows through your posts.

I guess Hal Jordan is the Green Lantern of the fans but John Stewart is more the Green Lantern of the people, as his biggest exposure probably was the JL animated series.

But the problem is if they use John Stewart for a movie, and he becomes a popular hero, kids will want to go out and buy John Stewart comics, and there are not enough good ones. Only one good storyline.

The character they should ultimately go with is the one that has the most story potential. This character is clearly Hal. DC doesn't care about John, so Hal gets all the best stories. For John to work in a movie, they'd probably have to steal story elements from Hal. Hal is basically the chosen one of the GL's. He's the best, and all of the craziest stuff happens to him. He's the main focus of the entire series, that's why he should be used. It's kinda a "screw you" to fans of the comic since they've spent so much time on making Hal the definitive Green Lantern.

Not using Hal is idiotic, when you don't use him, you miss out on the central conflict between Sinestro and Hal. That's crucial to the mythos.

I'm a strong supporter of using the original seven as the team for JL. I'll be disappointed with anything else. I really hope Hal is included. WB knows he's the best Green Lantern, its why he's the lead in his own successful comic book, it's why he gets movies and tv shows with him in it, and why he's on the Justice League in the comics. WB knows he's the best and is focusing on him for a reason, they're prepping him for live action again.
 
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From a business POV, the biggest draw of John is that he's not Hal Jordan (very obviously so). It makes redeeming the GL brand that much easier.

That's how I see it.
Like Batman Begins was as far removed from Batman and Robin as possible, WB will want to put as much distance from the Green Lantern movie as possible.
I'll be very surprised if the next live action Green Lantern is Hal Jordan. VERY surprised.
 
You call people out for getting too fired up about this, but you're the one making a fool of himself and doing the very thing you're calling people out on. Your frustration shows through your posts.

I guess Hal Jordan is the Green Lantern of the fans but John Stewart is more the Green Lantern of the people, as his biggest exposure probably was the JL animated series.

But the problem is if they use John Stewart for a movie, and he becomes a popular hero, kids will want to go out and buy John Stewart comics, and there are not enough good ones. Only one good storyline.

The character they should ultimately go with is the one that has the most story potential. This character is clearly Hal. DC doesn't care about John, so Hal gets all the best stories. For John to work in a movie, they'd probably have to steal story elements from Hal. Hal is basically the chosen one of the GL's. He's the best, and all of the craziest stuff happens to him. He's the main focus of the entire series, that's why he should be used. It's kinda a "screw you" to fans of the comic since they've spent so much time on making Hal the definitive Green Lantern.

Not using Hal is idiotic, when you don't use him, you miss out on the central conflict between Sinestro and Hal. That's crucial to the mythos.

Well John does have his own book right now...

Also, I think it's a stretch to say that John doesn't have enough story potential for one JL movie (especially since the story will probably be focused on the League itself).

If we ever do a get another solo GL movie, they could always bring in Hal there. Make the GL movies ensemble pieces like Star Trek. Problem solved.

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I'll be very surprised if the next live action Green Lantern is Hal Jordan. VERY surprised.

I won't be. It's hard to say right now.

WB will probably opt for John Stewart or no GL at all, but DC (Johns) will vouch for Hal Jordan.
 
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Well John does have his own book right now...

Also, I think it's a stretch to say that John doesn't have enough story potential for one JL movie (especially since the story will probably be focused on the League itself).

If we ever do a get another solo GL movie, they could always bring in Hal there.

No one is saying this. He has enough potential for JL, but not enough to carry his own film. Hal is the best choice for this. His story is epic. His ties to Star Sapphire and Sinestro are some of the central relationships in GL, they need to be shown. John doesn't have a solid nemesis like Hal does. And a forced John/Sinestro conflict wouldn't be as satisfying as Hal vs Sinestro
 
WB/DC will have all their eggs in one basket with the JL movie, the last thing they want or need is for the general audience to look at Hal Jordan and think, 'Aww man, 'that' guy is in this?'. The Green Lantern movie was TOXIC.
 

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