Green Lantern reboot ideas.

The best case scenario would be for the JL franchise to spawn a GL franchise that includes the 4 main titular Lanterns. However, with so much riding on SvB, whether we even see JL, much less spin-off franchises, remains to be seen. Right now, I'm much more hopeful for Flash and Arrow bringing the GLC back to life in live-action.

At this point, BvS is essentially JL light with all the people they continue to add. It'll be interesting to see how they proceed. I'm not usually one of the people that complain about overcrowding. I'm usually more a let's see how it turns out guy, but that's A LOT of people in BvS. At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if some form of GL were to show up there.
 
Little bit of fancasting for John & Guy.

Boseman & Paul
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Johnson & Wahlberg
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Elba & Kazinsky
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Those are interesting choices. Who should play Kyle, Jade, and Simon Baz in your opinion?
 
The Green Lantern movie's failure can't be attributed to the Hal Jordan character, that is a completely illogical argument. The reason that movie failed was simply because it was a badly written movie.

It's looking more and more like Hal will be the GL in the new movies. They seem to be going the New 52 route for the team.
When a movie fails that big, there can be many factors that attribute to it. I'm sure Hal being there instead of the one we were told was headed for live action since before that damned writers strike happened didn't do the film any favors.

You may be right about the new 52 roster. After seeing the lameness that was JL:WAR, I have no faith at all in New 52 features. They can count me out...again.
I'm scared to think what would have happened had Warner Bumbles tried to tell one of the other Lantern's stories. Hal had his origin told and re-told several times in the comics, and at least 3 times in animation before the movie. Anyone who didn't have a passing knowledge of that iconic scene was going to be a hard sell as a viewer.
That sounds like a LOT of people. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if more of the GA associate that "iconic" scene w/Kyle.
To Warner Bumbles credit, at least they got the origin scene right in the movie. However, Guy, John, and Kyle have much trickier origins because they are all tied to Hal. When I imagine some WB writer bypassing all of that to give John a new origin story, I shutter. It wouldn't have worked, period.
Speculation, period. The only thing we're sure of is that Hal's movie didn't work AT ALL. I can't imagine a film about John being worse than what we got w/Hal's movie and I definitely don't see it flopping like Hal's did. I don't see where Hal's origin is so great, but they could always just jack it like they did for Kyle if need be. That would make everybody happy :word:
Little bit of fancasting for John & Guy.

Boseman & Paul
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Johnson & Wahlberg
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Elba & Kazinsky
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Good stuff. I'd see any of them, but it still seems like Elba &Kazinsky were born to play John & Guy
 
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At this point, BvS is essentially JL light with all the people they continue to add. It'll be interesting to see how they proceed. I'm not usually one of the people that complain about overcrowding. I'm usually more a let's see how it turns out guy, but that's A LOT of people in BvS. At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if some form of GL were to show up there.

I just don't have much faith in that movie's direction right now. I hope I'm wrong.

Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if more of the GA associate that "iconic" scene w/Kyle.

If they do, they are squarely in the GA sheeple group. Kyle got his ring from Ganthet, not Abin Sur, in an alley. This is why so many classic GL fans and veteran DC fans refer to him with the pejorative of the "Alley Rat". The only way someone would be that ignorant of Kyle is if they watched the Superman:TAS amalgam of Hal & Kyle and never picked up a comic or watched DCAU movie. A studio should never pander to the whims of the uninformed.
 
I wish people would stop acting like there's one reason GREEN LANTERN failed.

It's a combination of things, none of which, on their own, necessarily cause most movies to fail.
 
If they do, they are squarely in the GA sheeple group. Kyle got his ring from Ganthet, not Abin Sur, in an alley. This is why so many classic GL fans and veteran DC fans refer to him with the pejorative of the "Alley Rat". The only way someone would be that ignorant of Kyle is if they watched the Superman:TAS amalgam of Hal & Kyle and never picked up a comic or watched DCAU movie. A studio should never pander to the whims of the uninformed.

Could you possibly be more condescending? I think there might be some undecided potential movie-watchers you haven't driven away from ever considering a future GL movie yet. :whatever:

The "ignorant GA sheeple" are the people that *matter*, because there are about a hundred times as many of them as all comic readers combined. There aren't even enough comic fans to support DTV animated movies, let alone big budget feature films.
 
If they do, they are squarely in the GA sheeple group. Kyle got his ring from Ganthet, not Abin Sur, in an alley. This is why so many classic GL fans and veteran DC fans refer to him with the pejorative of the "Alley Rat". The only way someone would be that ignorant of Kyle is if they watched the Superman:TAS amalgam of Hal & Kyle and never picked up a comic or watched DCAU movie. A studio should never pander to the whims of the uninformed.
They can't make a profit w/out the uninformed's support tho. If lil' changes here and there can help you make more money than dogmatically sticking to the source material, I say make those lil' changes. If you're good enough at it you can make the majority of people happy. The goal for these movies is to make a good profit. Franchises need it. Without it, it's another one and done like Hal's film was. WB wants franchises.
Cool! They need to keep an eye on that last kid. I'm not sure if the creator added the glasses randomly or if he was being a stickler for details. I remember on that episode where they got turned into kids &John needed glasses.

We're a looong way from seeing how this all turns out. I'm gonna take a hiatus from posting for a bit. I'll probably start again after we get more news. Hopefully I'll be back to gloat in a few months or a year or so(otherwise I'll be back to rant :) ). It's been real. You guys stay safe.
 
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Could you possibly be more condescending? I think there might be some undecided potential movie-watchers you haven't driven away from ever considering a future GL movie yet. :whatever:

The "ignorant GA sheeple" are the people that *matter*, because there are about a hundred times as many of them as all comic readers combined. There aren't even enough comic fans to support DTV animated movies, let alone big budget feature films.

Top statement: well, I'm not sure. Let me practice some over the weekend and I'll get back to you if I get to another level.

I also don't buy the idea that the casual fans matter more than the pre-existing/hardcore fans. A studio doesn't just want to sell a theater ticket. They also want to sell the limited edition Blurays, the expensive statues, the 6 pack of action figures, etc. That won't happen when a studio thumbs its nose at comic book history (the reason a movie exists in the first place) and tries to pacify everyone. In those cases the movies rarely meet anyone's expectations. Have you ever heard the old cliche' "dance with the one who brung ya"? Despite butchering the English language, the sentiment is sound.
 
I'm a WAY bigger Hal Jordan fan, but if Dwayne Johnson played John Stewart... that'd be too awesome...

He could reinvigorate that franchise better than pretty much any other actor I could imagine
 
^Agreed. Not going there would be a mistake.

Top statement: well, I'm not sure. Let me practice some over the weekend and I'll get back to you if I get to another level.

I also don't buy the idea that the casual fans matter more than the pre-existing/hardcore fans. A studio doesn't just want to sell a theater ticket. They also want to sell the limited edition Blurays, the expensive statues, the 6 pack of action figures, etc. That won't happen when a studio thumbs its nose at comic book history (the reason a movie exists in the first place) and tries to pacify everyone. In those cases the movies rarely meet anyone's expectations. Have you ever heard the old cliche' "dance with the one who brung ya"? Despite butchering the English language, the sentiment is sound.

All the films 'thumb their nose at comic book history' including the most successful and beloved amongst hardcore fans. And all the limited edition stuff is bought by 'ga sheeple' or else they'd never sell millions. Those are just GA sheeple who really like the movies, who think Nolan's Batman is better than the one from the comics and so forth.

You know what movies didn't thumb their nose at comic book history? Green Lantern, Watchmen and Punisher: War Zone.

What hardcore fans are 'good for' from a business perspective is building hype. To this end, hardcore fans of the franchise are just as good as hardcore fans of the comics. But when people hear through the grapevine that Arrow is an existing comic book character, it gives the effort credibility, that this is something established. If the hardcore fans speaks well of it, even better, now you've got positive hype for something that's not even in production.

Beyond that, unless the 50K hardcore fans are all spending $200 dollars, or are critics with a large audience, they don't even register as a blip on the radar of the movie's profits.
 
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I wish people would stop acting like there's one reason GREEN LANTERN failed.

It's a combination of things, none of which, on their own, necessarily cause most movies to fail.

It's not so much that there was one thing that caused it to fail, but it seems like virtually everything about the execution caused it to fail so you can pick out any attribute and explain how it contributed to the film's failure. Sure there are good films that also have these bad things in it, but there are no good films with all these bad things in it.
 
Green Lantern: Emerald Knights with Rian Johnson directing. :lips:
Now there's a sexy idea. Brick is one of the greatest films of all time, and Looper was just amazing, this dude is one of the best directors of his generation, we need to get him on a DC film.

He's said that he's a really big Batman fan and would love to do a Batman movie...
 
Now there's a sexy idea. Brick is one of the greatest films of all time, and Looper was just amazing, this dude is one of the best directors of his generation, we need to get him on a DC film.

He's said that he's a really big Batman fan and would love to do a Batman movie...

Yeah I originally wanted him for the next Batman director. I think his style would be well-suited for Green Lantern though too.

It's nice to know he at least has interest in comic book movies. :lips:
 
He cited Batman 89 as the movie that got him into blockbusters...if the dude wants to direct Batman and he has a good vision for it, they need to let that **** happen ASAP.

Rian Johnson is one of the few directors that I can imagine crafting a movie that could rival any of the Nolan films

Rian Johnson doing a cerebral Batman story with less realism than the Nolan films sounds perfect to me
 
It's not so much that there was one thing that caused it to fail, but it seems like virtually everything about the execution caused it to fail so you can pick out any attribute and explain how it contributed to the film's failure. Sure there are good films that also have these bad things in it, but there are no good films with all these bad things in it.

Pretty much. For example, the reason I tend to fixate on the Geoff Johns influence is not because its the worst thing about the movie. Its because, IMO, its part of the "pathological nostalgia" undercurrent at DC comics, and so has a greater than average likelihood of manifesting in other ways in later movies.
 
If they do, they are squarely in the GA sheeple group. Kyle got his ring from Ganthet, not Abin Sur, in an alley. This is why so many classic GL fans and veteran DC fans refer to him with the pejorative of the "Alley Rat". The only way someone would be that ignorant of Kyle is if they watched the Superman:TAS amalgam of Hal & Kyle and never picked up a comic or watched DCAU movie. A studio should never pander to the whims of the uninformed.

This is one of the dumbest things i think i've read here.

Studios with millions of dollars invested in a property shouldn't pander to the uniformed, but should pander to those who are informed... who make up about 2% of the target audience?

Get real. Nothing about Green Lantern is iconic like Superman, Batman, Spider-Man or even the Hulk.

There is more flexibility with Green Lantern because no one really knows, or after the first film, cares, about the character.

The studio now has to make people know and care. The best way to do that is do something different and do it right. GL was a hard enough sell before, it's gonna be even harder now that the name is toxic.
 
I'm a WAY bigger Hal Jordan fan, but if Dwayne Johnson played John Stewart... that'd be too awesome...

He could reinvigorate that franchise better than pretty much any other actor I could imagine

I would back that 100%. John's comparatively minimal history wouldn't matter with someone like DJ, and he wouldn't be upstaged by Supes and Bats.

Get real. Nothing about Green Lantern is iconic like Superman, Batman, Spider-Man or even the Hulk.

There is more flexibility with Green Lantern because no one really knows, or after the first film, cares, about the character.

The studio now has to make people know and care. The best way to do that is do something different and do it right. GL was a hard enough sell before, it's gonna be even harder now that the name is toxic.

Sorry, you and I have completely different perspectives here. There are different levels of fame (you named the historically biggest two from each company), but a character doesn't have to have a mega-movie franchise to be considered iconic.

I recently watched the Fantastic Four 2 featurette on the Silver Surfer. Stan used the word "iconic" several times for the Surfer, who became symbolic for a lot of disenfranchised people in the 60s. Even without his own movie franchise or TV show, Stan's right--the Surfer is iconic. Characters that survive changes in generations to maintain a presence in pop culture fit the "iconic" label. Marvel and DC have several characters like this, and one film, no matter how great or poor, defines such characters.
 
Here details about the earth's green lantern powers in comics many folks do not know about.

Hal Jordan
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Powers
Animation
Astral Projection
Attractive Male
Blast Power
Energy Absorption
Energy Based Constructs
Energy Shield
Energy-Enhanced Strike
Flight
Force Field
Healing
Holographic Projection
Hypnosis
Invisibility
Leadership
Levitation
Light Projection
Phasing / Ghost
Power Item
Super Speed
Super Strength
Unarmed Combat
Willpower-Based Constructs
Powers and Abilities

Hal Jordan is a bearer of the Green Lantern Ring and one of the most powerful of the Corps. The abilities the ring grants him are:

Animating: A Green Lantern can will things to move how he wants.

Artificial Intelligence: Every ring has a connection to the Main Battery on Oa, which taps into an artificial intelligence. It acts as an "on-board computer," telling the wearer what they need to know. It can either respond out loud, or silently directly to the wearer's mind. The AI contains a large database of information that may be crucial to a Lantern's success. The ring also translates nearly every language to and from the wearer (though they have difficulty translating profanity), which is why the Corps can communicate with each other. When the bearer of a Green Lantern ring dies, the ring will seek out a suitable replacement for their sector. The AI can be used to play a holographic playback sequence complete with colors across the spectrum based on information in memory banks. The ring can dictate when to pause or stop the playback should an interruption arise where the Lanterns undivided attention is needed. The AI can also alert the wielder of incoming threats or of attempts to manipulate the wielders construct by an outside party.


Burglar Alarm: A Green Lantern can coat anything with the ring's beam and thus, if anyone other than himself touches it, his ring will glow, alerting him to the possible theft.


Communicator: The ring can act as a personal communicator between Green Lanterns. They have also been seen connected to telephones.


Costumes: The wearer of the ring may create any costume they choose, based on their personal preferences, whenever they choose. The ring projects the costume over any clothes already worn at the time. The only rules that the Guardians of the Universe implement on the creation of a individual costumed is that the ring bearer display the insignia of the Green Lantern Corps.


Energy Projection: The rings can also project beams, form protective bubbles and force fields, and fire destructive blasts. Sometimes, depending on the wearer, the beams and blasts make sounds. Kilowog's ring is one such example of blasts making sounds.



Energy Constructs: The rings can construct anything the wearer can imagine from hard-light energy, as long as they are willing to make it. The more determined the wearer is, the more complex and intricate these things can be. The constructs can even be so complex as to form working machines, computers, and even people. However, Hal is known for his relatively simple, straightforward constructs like his ever faithful boxing glove.


Flight: The ring allows the wearer to fly in atmosphere or in space, and can achieve incredible speeds, moving from planet to planet in a matter of hours.


Invisibility: The ring can make the wearer or anything else invisible.


Matter Manipulation: A Green Lantern can use their ring to manipulate nearby matter, such as water, for various purposes such as a construct that acts like an energy construct but can block something yellow and may serve a purpose that an energy construct couldn't perform.


Mind Control: The wearer of the Ring can use it to plant post hypnotic commands or control a person.


Mirages: The Ring can create mirages/illusions.



Phasing: The ring allows the user to go through walls. This ability however required great concentration on the bearer of the ring




Power Absorbing: In the JLA's first fight with Amazo, it was GL who defeated him by drawing out all of Amazo's powers. In Green Lantern/ Silver Surfer: Unholy Alliances, Kyle defeated Parallax with SS' power and Thanos with Oa's energy by drawing out all that extra energy from them which made them unconscious. However he couldn't hold all that power nor could his Ring like Hal did with Amazo's powers, so that move isn't often used with so much power.


Probing: The ring can probe the Lantern's or another person's mind, allowing him to uncover memories or the person's thoughts. (An ability which has not been seen for some time)



Recharging: The rings need to be recharged by means of a Power Battery. Other large sources of power may be used to recharge a power ring, however effectiveness may vary. The internal power source of a Manhunter Android is, in effect, the same as a power battery, and can be used to recharge a power ring. During the JLA / Avengers crossover, a Cosmic Cubewas used to recharge a depleted ring, although this is not an ideal solution and is available if there are no other options.


Ring Duplication: Each ring can duplicate itself, creating a second ring which may be given to another as a backup, for protection, or to help the lantern in times of great need. This duplicate ring is exactly like a normal ring.


Temperature Control: The Ring can increase or decrease the temperature of anything, even something as large as stars, or even create bubbles of intense heat or cold, even down to Absolute Zero. This could be seen in the recent Sinestro Corps War when Sallak used his ring to incase an enemy in a force bubble an incinerate him.


Transforming (former): The ring can transform anyone or anything, be it into an animal, altering their state of appearance, or their size. Once Hal and Alan turned the two Flashes ( Barryand Jay) to light protons in order to free them from prisons.


Electro-magnetic scanning: The ring can allow(through the use of x rays) the user to see through walls, without the people on the other side knowing. it can also scan along the Electromagnetic spectrum.


Wormhole/Warps: The ring can open wormholes to cut down on distance.


Healing: A wielder can command a ring to heal him/her/itself of any injures incurred. It can also heal others. This ability however cannot regenerate lost limbs.



Energy twin: The ring can create an energy copy of the wielder which is connected to the ring wielder, any information the twin gathers is transferred to the wielder upon touch while others cannot see this twin apart from fellow Green Lanterns. (An ability which has not been seen for some time)



Pocket dimension: Within the ring is a pocket dimension which can altered to the wielders specification. It can be used to contain opponents.






Sub-routines: The power rings have inner programmings or mechanisms which can executed without the users permission. One such sub-routine is the autoshield. This shield automatically protects a wielder from external harm and has been proven to be capable of protecting the wielder from planetary level attacks.






Aviation: Even before becoming a Green Lantern, Hal Jordan was a very skilled pilot, just like his father was.





Leadership: Hal Jordan has proven to be a fantastic leader, usually assuming leadership of many Green Lanterns in battle.



Indomitable Will: Being a Green Lantern, Jordan has great willpower. He's shown to never back down from a fight and always push through obstacles, making him one of the greatest Green Lanterns ever





Retconned



Radiation: Besides light based radiation used to create the energy constructs associated with a Green Lantern, the ring can simulate various forms of radiation. One example of this is the ability to simulate the radiation of Green Kryptonite, a form of radiation that is harmful to Superman. However, this ability is no longer valid and has been retconned.


Time travel: The ring allows the wielder the ability to travel through time, though the process requires great willpower.



Weaknesses


Mental Incapacitation: The ring cannot be wielded correctly if the wearer is under the influence of drugs or if there is an involvement of neural interference.


Yellow Impurity: In the beginning the Green Ring was vulnerable to the color yellow. It was unable to defend against attacks from wielders of the Sinestro Corps as well. This weakness however has now be changed and can be overcome by veterans who have the ability to overcome great fear. Hal Jordan was of the first of the Green Lanterns to show that this weakness could be overcome.

Hal pulling his ring out of a pocket dimension.


Recharge: Previously had to be recharged every 24 hours or when it has been depleted of energy. This can be accomplished if the bearer of the ring recites an oath into his power lantern while holding the ring to it. However now, the power ring only needs to be recharged when it runs out of energy.

Red Lantern Corps. Bearers of the red ring have the ability to drain a Green Power Ring of its energy. The ring of a Blue Lantern however has the ability to charge a Green Lantern Ring or negate this negative effect. Blue Lanterns rings also have the ability to purge the negative effects that a Red Lanterns Ring can cause upon the wielder of a Green Lantern Ring.

http://www.comicvine.com/hal-jordan/4005-11202/


Green Lantern (Hal Jordan) - DC Comics Database
 
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John Stewart
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Powers
Astral Projection
Attractive Male
Blast Power
Danger Sense
Energy Absorption
Energy Based Constructs
Energy-Enhanced Strike
Flight
Force Field
Healing
Holographic Projection
Intellect
Invisibility
Invulnerability
Leadership
Light Projection
Marksmanship
Phasing / Ghost
Power Item
Super Speed
Super Strength
Tracking
Unarmed Combat
Weapon Master
Willpower-Based Constructs

Powers and Abilities

Powers

John is a wielder of a Green Lantern Power Ring, which enables him to construct anything out of light based on his imagination and willpower. The ring possesses a wide array of functions such as: translating alien languages, flight, the ability to breath in space, illusion casting, enhanced strength and durability, etc.



Stewart is known as the "Master Builder" of the Green Lantern Corps, primarily because of his architectural background. Due to his military training, one of his favorite (and most famous) constructs is a sniper rifle. He can be often seen picking off opponents from a far.


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John Stewart wielding his infamous sniper rifle construct.


Skills


Stewart is a trained United States Marine. He is a skilled tactician and hand-to-hand combat, with expertise in various different types of firearms. His specialty is in long range weapons.


Oath

"In brightest day, in blackest night,

No evil shall escape my sight.


Let those who worship evil's might,

Beware my power...Green Lantern's light!"



http://www.comicvine.com/john-stewart/4005-10451/

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John Stewart - DC Comics Database
 
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Can we stop it with "Idris Elba should be John Stewart?" He has a contract with Marvel Studios. Unless they release him out of his contract early, he won't play John Stewart.
 
yeah i was thinking the same thing. if Jaimie Alexander can't play WW because of her contract, then Elba can't play GL
 
Do you know what moment I would like to see? You know the scene in man of steel when Zod is getting imprisoned in the phantom zone at the start of the movie?

I would love someone to edit in a green lantern into that scene and tell the rest of the scene from his perspective
 

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