'H2', Rob Zombie's sequel to 'Halloween'

[JokerLedger]

meh... I enjoyed Zombie's version so I'm down for a sequel.
I'm still hoping they freaking release TRICK 'R' TREAT next halloween.

 

[The Apatow Crew]

know the film was just announced last night, but this is in fact the real deal. Beyond the break you can check out some early teaser art for Rob Zombie's H2, the sequel to his remake of HALLOWEEN, which he will be writing and directing. The new film picks up right as the first remake ended, following the aftermath of Michael Myers' murderous rampage through the eyes of the sister he hunted. Unconfirmed names returning are Scout Taylor-Compton as Laurie Strode, Tyler Mane as Michael Myers, Malcolm McDowell as Dr. Sam Loomis, Daeg Faerch as young Michael Myers and of course Sheri Moon Zombie as Deborah Meyers

http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/14681

 

[Darkness Falls]

wow not a lot of love for zombie
personally i liked his version of halloween

 

[The Apatow Crew]

wow not a lot of love for zombie
personally i liked his version of halloween

I liked it also. But there is alot to imporve upon.

 

[TwilightPro101]

I found most of the Halloween remake to be unwatchable. It's hard enough just to get past the first 10 minutes of the movie. Aside from Michael's mom the rest of Zombie's characters were a joke and I found every single teen (including Laurie) to be unlikeable nitwits. And I don't see how Zombie is going to take Michael in any kind of direction that's scary because he completely undercut Michael's danger factor by repeating the idiotic H5 scene of unmasking himself to reveal himself to Laurie. That was one of the dumbest parts because now if (for some ungodly reason) you want to watch the remake again you know Michael isn't chasing Laurie to kill her. He just wants a hug from his sister lol.

Exactly the problem with Zombie's take on the franchise reboot.

 

[Joe Von Zombie]

Rob Zombie = Epic Fail, The man hasn't released a decent album since Hellbilly Deluxe and he hasn't released a decent film....EVER. Rob Zombies white trash Jerry Springer version of Halloween sits a top my list of worst films of the last decade. His films make movies like Jack Brooks seem Oscar worthy.

 

[Superark]

John Carpenter's Halloween is the best horror/slasher film to ever be produced. That entire movie leeps you on the edge of your seat and is a tense ride. I love that movie!

Before seeing Zombie's remake I was on the fence. It looked really good, but I read some bad reviews. But a friend of mine swore to me that Zombie's Halloween was awesome and one of the best horror movies to come out. He liked it more than the original. So taking his word, I spent $13 and bought it.

Boy was that a mistake!

Zombie just got so much wrong with this character. I know you don't want to make a remake that is exactly like the original, but c'mon the changes he made were horrendous.

I didn't like that he felt the need to go with the cliched "this person came from a broken, abusive home" story that explains serial killers. What's so fascinating and scary about Michael Myers is that he has no "reason" to kill. There is no story behind him. He is a cloud of mystery and an evil killing machine. I respect that Zombie tried something different, but honestly it wasn't different at all.

Then you had the usual Rob Zombie crap. For whatever reason he feels the need to make everyone in his movies talk like they are from the trailer parks. I'm 23 and I have lived in been in some rough areas and have been in college for over 4 years and never once have I been around anyone who CONSTANTLY talks the way Zombie's characters do. Dude cut back on the language.

Not only that, but then you had Laurie making sex jokes. HELLO?! This is suppose to be the pure, shy, innocent one. Zombie did nothing to make her different than her friends.
And her friends, could they be any more obnoxious? They came across as complete trash and ****s. I was just wait for Myers to kills these girls so they'd shut up.

Plus, could Zombie please realize that we don't need so many sex scenes and unneccessary vulgarness. I mean was the rape scene in the hospital really needed?

All the characters were poorly developed, expecially The Sheriff and Laurie. Zombie forgets that we're suppose to care about these characters and get interested in them. He seems more content on focusing strictly on the monsters. I mean he actually made Michael Meyer's caring. The whole movie was about him killing everyone so he could be back with his baby sister. UGH!

Basically all this boils down to is that I don't really think Zombie needs to make another Halloween. I'll see just to see if he made any improvements, but this time I'm renting from Redbox.

 

[BatJeff7786]

He's nevah gonna stop yeaaaah, nevah gonna stop!

 

[WeaponXProject]

Meh...what happened to his T-Rex Zombie movie he was doing?

 

[Marx]

H2? Seriously? Is THAT the name? It reminds me of that parking garage horror movie P2 (or whatever it was called.)

 

[The Apatow Crew]

Meh...what happened to his T-Rex Zombie movie he was doing?

He's doing this to get the money to make it.

 

[WeaponXProject]

He's doing this to get the money to make it.

That's a terrible reason to make a movie, IMO.

 

[The Apatow Crew]

That's a terrible reason to make a movie, IMO.

He's doing this since no one else will back his other project. and is doin this movie to get the movie to get that movie off the ground. Other wise that movie prolly would never get made.

 

[-Arya-]

No, no no no no!!!! His version of halloween was atrocious. Blood, Gore and nudity. All of which were nearly absent in the original, which is why I love the original version so much. It only relied on the atmosphere to cause chills.

It just didnt need to be remade, and I have a feeling this one is going to follow the same path as zombies first film. They should have killed this franchise at H20.

 

[Lord Blackbolt]

so I'm guessing we're gonna get a hundred movie sequels that are remakes of the sequels?

They should remake season of the witch.....

 

[WeaponXProject]

He's doing this since no one else will back his other project. and is doin this movie to get the movie to get that movie off the ground. Other wise that movie prolly would never get made.

No, I get your point and his point cause I also wanna see the T-Rex movie but he shouldn't butcher (ha ha stupid pun) the most famous slasher series just to make another movie. Why can't directors and Hollywood alike just make a movie in the vain of another movie. Like Descent was to Alien, Scream was to all slasher flicks, etc.

Well, hopefully he can stick to the tones of the originals with camera angles from Michael's eyes and the classic "he's right behind you" moments and leave out the quirky characters that he puts in every movie.

 

[rnewbz]

I personally don't think Zomebie's Halloween was bad. It doesn't beat Carpenter's but I thought it was good. The look of the film Zombie created was pretty artistic. I think the flaws of the remake weren't in the directing, but in the script. They gave too much backstory for Michael. Small snippets would have worked better imo.

 

[WeaponXProject]

I personally don't think Zomebie's Halloween was bad. It doesn't beat Carpenter's but I thought it was good. The look of the film Zombie created was pretty artistic. I think the flaws of the remake weren't in the directing, but in the script. They gave too much backstory for Michael. Small snippets would have worked better imo.

I definitely agree with you in the bold section.

I don't blame Zombie's direction but I do blame the characters he brought to it. I mean little Michael became a monster for reasons in Zombie's movie: His mom's a stripper, his step dad an evil drunk, the kids at school picked on him, he lived in a low life hillbilly family and his sister was not a bright figure for him which in my mind ruined how in Carpenter's Halloween Michael seemed to become an emotionless monster with no explanation. I loved the old one for NOT knowing why Michael was the way he was and why he killed people. A certain mystery to who how he started was scarier to me.

 

[CFE]

I personally don't think Zombie's Halloween was bad. It doesn't beat Carpenter's but I thought it was good. The look of the film Zombie created was pretty artistic. I think the flaws of the remake weren't in the directing, but in the script. They gave too much backstory for Michael. Small snippets would have worked better imo.

I agree with everything except there being too much backstory.

As a fan of the Myers character, I couldn't get enough of seeing him and Dr. Loomis in Smith's Grove. It was like Rob pulled back the veil and showed me something I've always wanted to see ever since I saw the original film.

But yeah Rob's fault is not in directing or having a vision...it's in his writing.

The visual astheatic of his take on "Halloween" was very cool, IMO.

If anything, since Rob insists on writing it, they could easily bring in another writer to polish Rob's script...if not flat out getting another writer period.

But for people to say Rob 'ruined' Michael Myers...that's a bit overreactive, don't you think?

Because Michael...the silent, mask wearing killer...has remained pretty much consistent throughout all the films. So aside from dirtying him, which wasn't a big deal, how did Zombie 'ruin' him or get him 'wrong'

 

[CFE]

I definitely agree with you in the bold section.

I don't blame Zombie's direction but I do blame the characters he brought to it. I mean little Michael became a monster for reasons in Zombie's movie: His mom's a stripper, his step dad an evil drunk, the kids at school picked on him, he lived in a low life hillbilly family and his sister was not a bright figure for him which in my mind ruined how in Carpenter's Halloween Michael seemed to become an emotionless monster with no explanation. I loved the old one for NOT knowing why Michael was the way he was and why he killed people. A certain mystery to who how he started was scarier to me.

No see that's the exact thing I think people don't get...

Zombie in no way explained WHY Michael became a monster...he only showed HOW Michael became a monster.

By adding the cliches of the bullies, the drunk stepfather, the run down home life and all that...Rob added more QUESTIONS as to what happened to Michael. What combination of these factors drove him to madness?

But at the same time, he never provides you with a straight forward answer.

One minute, Michael's sitting at the dining table eating candy...the next, without ANY sort of explination on Rob's part (or hesitation on Michael's) he quietly picks up his mess, pulls out duct tape and a knife and goes about slaying everyone in the house aside from the baby.

Why? What exactly was the reason for him to just turn on a dime like that?

 

[WeaponXProject]

I didn't mind the Michael in the mental hospital with Loomis, I liked that stuff. I did have an issue with the people they made surrounding him like I said before.


The old movie it seemed Michael had a perfectly sound family and this monster came out of him that no one could see coming.

This may be off subject but similarly to Darth Vader. Seeing why he chose to be in the dark side because he wanted to save his wife ruined the evil of who was under the mask. To me it made the evil part of Vader, and Michael Myers, too understandable and not pure. TDK was perfect in not giving the Joker a back story, you couldn't interpret who or why he was which made each scene unpredictable.

 

[CFE]

I see what you're saying about Vader...but I don't think Rob made Michael more understandable the way Lucas did to Anakin.

Anakin was turned into a victim.

But despite his home life, which wasn't THAT bad, Michael wasn't a victim at all...not the way Anakin was as a character...IMO anyway.

 

[WeaponXProject]

No see that's the exact thing I think people don't get...

Zombie in no way explained WHY Michael became a monster...he only showed HOW Michael became a monster.

By adding the cliches of the bullies, the drunk stepfather, the run down home life and all that...Rob added more QUESTIONS as to what happened to Michael. What combination of these factors drove him to madness?

But at the same time, he never provides you with a straight forward answer.

One minute, Michael's sitting at the dining table eating candy...the next, without ANY sort of explination on Rob's part (or hesitation on Michael's) he quietly picks up his mess, pulls out duct tape and a knife and goes about slaying everyone in the house aside from the baby.

Why? What exactly was the reason for him to just turn on a dime like that?

No, I get it what you mean but you have to see what I mean. I think people had an idea of the character and it was...there is/or was no clear explanation why in Carpenter's. An unexplainable change or coming out of an animal. But with Zombie's it was almost humanizing and understandable to see him become what he became.

I respect your point on how he became evil and why are different but to me it is more alarming to have a serial killer sparked from nothing as Carpenter always alluded to.

To me, making Michael Myers more of an understandable evil ruined his mystique.

 

[CFE]

To each his own, I guess...I definately both see and respect where you're coming from.

And I do admit that I still prefer John Carpenter's film. It's in my Top 10 of all time...hence why I'm passionate about the character lol

But I see what you're saying.

 

[WeaponXProject]

To each his own, I guess...I definately both see and respect where you're coming from.

And I do admit that I still prefer John Carpenter's film. It's in my Top 10 of all time...hence why I'm passionate about the character lol

But I see what you're saying.

Cool, we agree to disagree even though I see your point and you see mine.