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As i was watching the film, i couldn't help but think it probably would have been a better movie if it was split into two films, and i think a lot of people feel that way even if they don't realize it. most reviews or posts split the movie into a first half and a second half (liking one or the other). it felt like two separate themes going on in the movie, and when you watch the second half, you pretty much don't need to know anything pre-restaurant conversation, the whole drinking, going to jail, reforming, none of that really mattered in the second half.

i think the first movie should have been about entirely about hancock reforming, and the sequel could have another superbeing coming to find him...and using that to present hancock's origin.
 
This move does not need a sequel. It needs a prequel, showing who or what created their kind and for what reason.
Being with a white woman is not his kryptonite, it's being with the woman of his kind, that he was created for, who in this case just happens to be white. I know all of you know that, so why keep making a racial thing out of it?
Any way, I loved this movie! The first act, with the comedy and the second act, when it turned serious.
 
M.O.Steel said:
As i was watching the film, i couldn't help but think it probably would have been a better movie if it was split into two films, and i think a lot of people feel that way even if they don't realize it. most reviews or posts split the movie into a first half and a second half (liking one or the other). it felt like two separate themes going on in the movie, and when you watch the second half, you pretty much don't need to know anything pre-restaurant conversation, the whole drinking, going to jail, reforming, none of that really mattered in the second half.

i think the first movie should have been about entirely about hancock reforming, and the sequel could have another superbeing coming to find him...and using that to present hancock's origin.
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I think this would have been the best way to do the movie also. As is, the movie is uneven.
 
The movie was really bland. it had no personality. You never warm up to Will Smiths character and you never identify with him. Plus, the cinematography really lacked in my opinion.

The funniest part was the whale scene. Too bad they used that in the TV spots and the trailer.
 
someone posted a pic of hancock's jacket. can you buy it?
 
I thought it was okay...but like others the second half just seemed like a different movie. Even in tone, the first half was funny yet told a story that could be considered moving or what have you, and then half way through it becomes a slapstick buddy flick, only to attempt to switch back again.

I didnt think it was anywhere near as fun as Wanted, and not even in Iron Mans league.
 
donk70 said:
The movie was really bland. it had no personality. You never warm up to Will Smiths character and you never identify with him. Plus, the cinematography really lacked in my opinion.

The funniest part was the whale scene. Too bad they used that in the TV spots and the trailer.
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interesting opinion
 
Will Smith likes sequels so a Hancock 2 could happen. But id rather see I Robot 2 if you ask me. Will Smith will make movies a long time and has many more films. I think i like Will's preformance as daring to be a differant super hero and in a year with Hulk, Iron Man, and Batman. Hancock kinda dares to be differant. I wonder though if Hellboy was never made people wouldn't dare to be a grumpy hero.
 
BloodyWolverine said:
Will Smith likes sequels so a Hancock 2 could happen. But id rather see I Robot 2 if you ask me. Will Smith will make movies a long time and has many more films. I think i like Will's preformance as daring to be a differant super hero and in a year with Hulk, Iron Man, and Batman. Hancock kinda dares to be differant. I wonder though if Hellboy was never made people wouldn't dare to be a grumpy hero.
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We had Wolverine long before anybody ever heard of a Hellboy.
 
Chris Wallace said:
We had Wolverine long before anybody ever heard of a Hellboy.
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You forget how old some people on here are. Some have no idea that Atari had an actual game system and wasn't just the distributor of the DBZ game series.
 
terry78 said:
You forget how old some people on here are. Some have no idea that Atari had an actual game system and wasn't just the distributor of the DBZ game series.
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:wow: By the gods, you learn something new everyday.
 
Heretic said:
I thought it was okay...but like others the second half just seemed like a different movie. Even in tone, the first half was funny yet told a story that could be considered moving or what have you, and then half way through it becomes a slapstick buddy flick, only to attempt to switch back again.

I didnt think it was anywhere near as fun as Wanted, and not even in Iron Mans league.
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I emphatically disagree, especially on the Wanted part.
 
BloodyWolverine said:
Will Smith likes sequels so a Hancock 2 could happen. But id rather see I Robot 2 if you ask me. Will Smith will make movies a long time and has many more films. I think i like Will's preformance as daring to be a differant super hero and in a year with Hulk, Iron Man, and Batman. Hancock kinda dares to be differant. I wonder though if Hellboy was never made people wouldn't dare to be a grumpy hero.
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I was under the impression that he hated sequels, though he seems open to more Hancock.

This film was pretty poor. Tons of stuff obviously ended up on the editing room floor:

1. Why did Johnny Galecki get star billing? Where did his scenes go?
2. Why was Red said to be working with graduate students?
3. Where did the snow and tornadoes come from? (I suspect something to do with no.2).
 
Thats cool hat you guys disagree. I realize that Wanted is kind of a lame film...the hing is that I ent in expecting to hate it...and had a big goofy smile on my face the entire time. Its a stupid movie, but I had fun watching it.

Hancock was a better film, and had some good scenes. I wasnt overly thrilled with the special fx, and i just didnt have as much fun as I did at Wanted. Then again, I had loads of fun at Ghost Rider because my friends and i cracked jokes the whole time about how bad it was...not that Wanted is Ghost Rider bad.

To each his own...
 
drmick said:
I was under the impression that he hated sequels, though he seems open to more Hancock.

This film was pretty poor. Tons of stuff obviously ended up on the editing room floor:

1. Why did Johnny Galecki get star billing? Where did his scenes go?
2. Why was Red said to be working with graduate students?
3. Where did the snow and tornadoes come from? (I suspect something to do with no.2).
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Well if we are talking about a demi goddess being Mary some goddesses if you believe in legends could control weather and and cause great destruction. I am guessing Hancock is more like Hercules mixed with Aries and Hancock was crapped out.
Sometimes a person gotta put things not there together in own imagination.

As for grumpy hero. Well i suppose Logan was first then Hellboy. But without them Hancock the hobo/drunk super hero would never have been created.
 
Some people were turned off from the switch from comedy to drama for a few reasons. The obvious reason for people is probably because the marketing almost made it seem like the film would be a comedy for the most part. Though, I'm sure the big reason is because it was different from the norm, and did not follow the fundamental movie formula. Very few films make the switch like that, however, Hancock is not the first film to make this switch. Comedy-dramas (or "dramadies") do this all the time. It just seems that because comedy-dramas don't nearly have as much scope or interest as Hancock did (because it is a summer blockbuster), it makes it an easy target. I can't understand the criticism for the switch because there is no law set in stone that says a movie can't do it and be successful. I guess it is such a norm to not do it that when a film actually does it, it seems so different and unusual.

Hancock definitely qualifies as a comedy-drama in my eyes, and is truly the first of it's kind. It was different, and I liked that.

...that's just me.
 
I had to google Johnny Galecki.......the first pic is not nice
 
M.O.Steel said:
As i was watching the film, i couldn't help but think it probably would have been a better movie if it was split into two films, and i think a lot of people feel that way even if they don't realize it. most reviews or posts split the movie into a first half and a second half (liking one or the other). it felt like two separate themes going on in the movie, and when you watch the second half, you pretty much don't need to know anything pre-restaurant conversation, the whole drinking, going to jail, reforming, none of that really mattered in the second half.

i think the first movie should have been about entirely about hancock reforming, and the sequel could have another superbeing coming to find him...and using that to present hancock's origin.
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I definitely agree that it felt like way too much material for one film. It was like they tried to cram everything in and then edit it to flow in an MTV commercial like pacing and that really didn't work for me at all.

I think the first movie should've dealt with Hancock the derelict no nonsense hero. Basically the first 20 or so minutes for an entire movie now that would've been different. They still could explain he was a God they still could've mentioned all he remembers is waking up in a hospital. Hell they could've said that he banished himself from wherever the gods come from because he wanted to live life as a mortal. The other Gods were reluctant but abided to his request. Till he ended up regaining his powers in the hospital and started using them recklessly in their eyes henceforth.

You could've had a God not be ok with this feeling he's abusing his calling and come down to earth to teach Hancock a lesson in humility. Or if not you could take the demigod route and have him face someone who wants to bring earth to it's knees. They duke it out for a few epic on screen battles. Hancock has no idea what's going on but knows he's the only one on earth that could stop this being the world is of course becoming more paranoid now that there are 2 superpowered beings presumably behaving reckless.

The govt could even intervene Hancock is being targetted as well as the villain. He wants to prove he's on the side of helping humanity and feels they take him for granted. The demigod could also be a fallen god but one who fell because of corruption and not choice. He explains that Hancock and he are essentially brothers that they were built in pairs. Explains to hancock who he really is that he is a god who came to earth to become mortal and live a regular life but in being a mortal ended up hurt and caught amnesia cap it off with the revelation that he left Godland with somebody he was in love with but don't go too much into details yet. End it with Hancock taking responsibility for his reckless ways in the eyes of the humans by proving how he matured throughout the film and turning himself in consciously to the authority. End it with the "I could be better, I will be better" speech and boom there's your lead in to movie 2.

Movie 2 could focus with Hancock in jail at the beginning then he meets Bateman's character a publicist who visits him in jail and wants to help him clean up his image. Then from there they could lead to the bank scene establish the bank guy as a better villain since they'll have more time. Introduce CHarlize's character and go into further details of his backstory by revealing she was the one he left Godland with. They could also go the route of explaining how they were targeted that night because they were presumably a mixed race couple in an era that did not tolerate that etc.

I don't know man I'm brainstorming here but there could've been a lot of possibilities with this premise. One essential thing the writers forgot is a fundamental element of any storytelling that's worth a damn adding pathos dammit pathos.
 
I enjoyed it...I am a fan of Peter Berg and his work, and hope this success gets more work his way....
 
M.O.Steel said:
As i was watching the film, i couldn't help but think it probably would have been a better movie if it was split into two films, and i think a lot of people feel that way even if they don't realize it. most reviews or posts split the movie into a first half and a second half (liking one or the other). it felt like two separate themes going on in the movie, and when you watch the second half, you pretty much don't need to know anything pre-restaurant conversation, the whole drinking, going to jail, reforming, none of that really mattered in the second half.

i think the first movie should have been about entirely about hancock reforming, and the sequel could have another superbeing coming to find him...and using that to present hancock's origin.
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Yeah, you're definitely right there. This movie was uneven as hell. The director and writers had a lot of good ideas, but they tried to jam them all down your throat in one movie. Too many chefs, ruin the soup, eh?

donk70 said:
The movie was really bland. it had no personality. You never warm up to Will Smiths character and you never identify with him. Plus, the cinematography really lacked in my opinion.

The funniest part was the whale scene. Too bad they used that in the TV spots and the trailer.
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But isn't that the whole point of the movie? Regular people felt alienated by Hancock. I think Jason Bateman's character was the every man you were supposed to pull for, not Hancock.

Anyhow, decent movie, 6/10. Not as spectacular as I had hoped, but not bad either. In my opinion Jason Bateman really made the movie as he was something most superhero movies so often lack...just your common person.
 
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