Harry Potter - The Complete Series Thread

[spider-neil]

Immortality would be a disaster for Harry as he would age as normal and with the Philosopher's Stone was destroyed so he wouldn't be able to stay youthful. In a hundred years Harry would be begging for death.

 

[Doc Ock]

Remember when Harry's eyes weren't the same color as they were in the books, yeah that really ****ing bothers me.

That used to always bother me, but at this point I just accept it.

 

[Asteroid-Man]

They slashed the price this weekend to $99. I ordered mine on Friday. Sale is still up!

 

[Asteroid-Man]

Dumbledore is clearly gay in the books. When people seem shocked, it reminds me of those shocked that Renly, the man who has the rainbow guard, is gay.

Dumbledore came across more asexual than gay or straight.

 

[redhawk23]

I watched Goblet of Fire for the first in many years.

I actually quite like the film. They of course had to cut a lot of material but I think they found a good core to the story and actually presented the mystery aspects quite well.

That film spends a kind of crazy amount of time on the Yule Ball and the lead up. There's a lot of good character work involved so I understand the choice but it still comes off a little odd given other sections of the film that were cut down in somewhat awkward ways.

 

[redhawk23]

A Casual Vacancy was awful from what I've heard. The plot didn't even sound all that compelling.

As for Umbridge, I was always curious about her and what became of her post DH. Idk whether this new story will deal with any of that (it's only 1700 words after all), but it could interesting.

Casual Vacancy wasn't awful, just often uncomfortably bleak.

 

[redhawk23]

Ever since the series wrapped up in terms of film, I pretty much moved on from the franchise. Never thought about it until one of my friends told me about the author regretting Hermione and Ron as a pairing and I was like:

You're just now regretting? I understand her reason in having Hermione end up with Ron, she wanted to avoid the cliche of the main male character getting the main female character. She wanted to avoid the inevitable outcome. But as said within this thread, change for the sake of change, is almost never a good thing. Especially if you don't know how to turn it into something decent for the story.

But that was one of the most natural pairing outcomes. The books and even more so, the movies pretty much show that the two have a better pairing than anything involving Ron. Which I find kinda sad for Ron.

Ron paired with Hermione is almost MORE cliche than the "main guy getting the main girl" when it comes to the 2-dudes-and-a-girl trio.

Sorry for the response to a 10 month old post.

 

[A Necessary Evil]

I also enjoy GoF. It's unfortunate so much got cut out, but I think it was worse in OOTP. If they just released the deleted footage for the Priori Incantatem scene, it would improve the film as is.

 

[spider-neil]

I don't care if it would have seemed like a cash grab, they should have started to split the movies in two from movie 4 onwards. And I think WB are kicking themselves that they didn't.

 

[A Necessary Evil]

Yeaaaah I really didn't need 11 HP movies.

 

[spider-neil]

Movie 4
Part A - An extended view of the trial of Crouch and the lead up to the TWC.
Part B - TWC and the climax.

Movie 5
Part A
Part B

Movie 6
Part A - An extended look at the different stages of the transformation of Voldermort.
Part B - Proper climax with the fight in Hogwarts.

 

[spider-neil]

Yeaaaah I really didn't need 11 HP movies.

I wonder how many Potter fans agree with you.

 

[Doc Ock]

I've always wished books 4-6 just had some more scenes, sometimes I felt like I only understood the movies because I read the books. I had friends and family who didn't quite understand the importance of the horcruxes after watching Half-Blood Prince. I have a lot of issues with movie six, I was so excited about it and seems to have the most cut or changed.

 

[spider-neil]

I've always wished books 4-6 just had some more scenes, sometimes I felt like I only understood the movies because I read the books. I had friends and family who didn't quite understand the importance of the horcruxes after watching Half-Blood Prince. I have a lot of issues with movie six, I was so excited about it and seems to have the most cut or changed.

Totally. Some of the scenes dropped were really crucial like young Riddle for instance. WB could have doubled their money and expanded the story of Harry in one go. Missed opportunity.

 

[Drizzle]

I don't care if it would have seemed like a cash grab, they should have started to split the movies in two from movie 4 onwards. And I think WB are kicking themselves that they didn't.

No way. The movies are adaptations. They don't need to include every single thing from the books. Look at Chamber of Secrets, that movie was almost three hours, it included mostly everything from the book and it just clunked along forever. If anything, Order of the Phoenix could have been close to three hours to include some stuff that was missed, same with Half-Blood Prince. Where would you even split GOF, OOTP and HBP anyway? Deathly Hallows worked quite well as two parts, because there was so much to wrap up in the whole series.

 

[A Necessary Evil]

I wonder how many Potter fans agree with you.

I wonder how many of those fans are rational.

No way. The movies are adaptations. They don't need to include every single thing from the books. Look at Chamber of Secrets, that movie was almost three hours, it included mostly everything from the book and it just clunked along forever. If anything, Order of the Phoenix could have been close to three hours to include some stuff that was missed, same with Half-Blood Prince. Where would you even split GOF, OOTP and HBP anyway? Deathly Hallows worked quite well as two parts, because there was so much to wrap up in the whole series.

Yeah, exactly. There's even extended cuts of SS and CoS out there, and COS is 171 minutes...and it feels that way. There was a splitting point in DH, but where would you split GOF? After the second task? Nah. OOTP? Uhhhh it feels fairly complete as a film, adaptation no, but as a film Idk a splitting point. HBP I also am drawing a blank on. You just needed to not make the A plot the B plot and vice versa. That was HBP's problem, but i do love it as a film.

 

[spider-neil]

No way. The movies are adaptations. They don't need to include every single thing from the books. Look at Chamber of Secrets, that movie was almost three hours, it included mostly everything from the book and it just clunked along forever. If anything, Order of the Phoenix could have been close to three hours to include some stuff that was missed, same with Half-Blood Prince. Where would you even split GOF, OOTP and HBP anyway? Deathly Hallows worked quite well as two parts, because there was so much to wrap up in the whole series.

Chamber of Secrets is my favourite Potter movie because virtually all of the book is in the movie rather than despite it.

The scope of book 4 onwards could definitely have justified part 1 and 2.

 

[redhawk23]

Chamber of Secrets is my favourite Potter movie because virtually all of the book is in the movie rather than despite it.

The scope of book 4 onwards could definitely have justified part 1 and 2.

Meh. The splits weren't ever really needed, just different choices could have been made in what to include.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

The three best films imo are PoA, OotP and DH part 1. It isn't about what they cut out, it is about how they used their time. All three of those films felt like strong and complete stories. Outside of HBP and DH Part 2 they all did. GoF is a great adaptation even with all the cuts.

Adding extra subplots would not make any of the films better.

Chamber of Secrets is my favourite Potter movie because virtually all of the book is in the movie rather than despite it.

The scope of book 4 onwards could definitely have justified part 1 and 2.

There are no natural divides in any of the films. What you are doing is ruining a story by cutting it in half. I still wish that they had cut DH down to a 3 hour film similar to the LotR films. They could have added the extra bits later if they needed to do it so badly.

 

[Doctor Jones]

DH could have been one film. If people could watch a three and a half hour LOTR finale, then you can bet people would have been more than happy with a three and a half hour Harry Potter film. Rehashing old views I know, but I'm really tired of this splitting up nonsense.

A whole final film would have really helped itself. There's something great about getting a one and done finale that I just wish people would get back to.

And to think years ago when people speculated they wanted GOF split up into two movies. If HP had been made today, I wouldn't be surprised if the latter books were all split up in two.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

DH could have been one film. If people could watch a three and a half hour LOTR finale, then you can bet people would have been more than happy with a three and a half hour Harry Potter film. Rehashing old views I know, but I'm really tired of this splitting up nonsense.

A whole final film would have really helped itself. There's something great about getting a one and done finale that I just wish people would get back to.

And to think years ago when people speculated they wanted GOF split up into two movies. If HP had been made today, I wouldn't be surprised if the latter books were all split up in two.

I agree completely. Part 2 is so incomplete feeling, it hurts at times. Splitting a story should only be done when absolutely necessary. It clearly wasn't with DH.

 

[spider-neil]

I disagree completely. I loved both movies of DH and wish more of the Potter movies had been given me a similar experience rather than me stewing in my chair at all the dropped scenes in HP 4, 5 and 6.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I disagree completely. I loved both movies of DH and wish more of the Potter movies had been given me a similar experience rather than me stewing in my chair at all the dropped scenes in HP 4, 5 and 6.

That is a fanboy problem, not a narrative problem. I say this as someone who lost a lot of his favorites scenes with the cuts.

 

[Lord]

As someone who never read the books, the films started to get confusing with the 5th one, after that, the secondary storylines seem to fade a bit more into the background, to understand some things i even had to go to the wikia (Horcruxes, the first dark lord, etc).

I blame the Director for that, i liked when each film had their oun looks, Order was also when the films started to get shorter.

 

[craigdbfan]

There are certain things that could have definitely been better explained. Some of the more crucial elements are kind of glossed over. Even then I adore every single one of these films.

I have them all on Blu Ray but I can't ever pass up the chance to watch them when ABC Family has a Potter weekend. I sit my ass down and I'm held captive by all the films (they skipped GoF this go around).

Does anyone still watch the ABC Family runs despite owning the films?

These movies never get old for me. Watching Deathly Hallows Part 1 I also love how Yates/Kloves decided to add that scene between Hermione and Harry dancing. That was so real and something I believe even most book readers liked despite it never being in the book.