HBO's Game of Thrones - - - - - Part 14

[cheungcheung]

I thought the episode was pretty slow... Sam's scenes were beyond boring.

I wonder if tywin taught tommen about incest.

 

[Victarion]

The Tyrion scenes were pretty good. I wonder where the Mountain chopping peasants fits? One of the trailers makes it look like a shirtless Clegane is butching some raggedy peasants with his sword.

@Marvolo: I hope it's Coldhands. There was a scene in the trailers of one of Rast's men laying a male child out in the snow.

 

[Reek]

yet another 'Dracarys' lol

 

[squeekness]

The Tyrion scenes were pretty good. I wonder where the Mountain chopping peasants fits? One of the trailers makes it look like a shirtless Clegane is butching some raggedy peasants with his sword.

@Marvolo: I hope it's Coldhands. There was a scene in the trailers of one of Rast's men laying a male child out in the snow.

Did Martin say what happens to the babies in the books? Because I can't recall....

 

[Spidey-Bat]

Yeah. They showed us Coldhands horse in Bran's vision and it's the same horse that the white walker that let Sam live was riding in the season 2 finale. And the preview for next week shows a flash of Coldhand's face and it looks like the same whitewalker. So I think we may have already met Coldhands in the season 2 finale and just didn't know it was him.

Spoiler

Coldhands rode an elk, not a horse and was a wight, not a white walker. Looked like just another White Walker in the brief glimpse at the end. If the character wasn't cut, I can't see them making him a white walker since it'd cost more to have an actor in the make-up portray him for more than a few seconds.

Did Martin say what happens to the babies in the books? Because I can't recall....

He sacrificed them to the gods the wildlings worshipped.

 

[Marvolo]

Spoiler

Coldhands rode an elk, not a horse and was a wight, not a white walker. Looked like just another White Walker in the brief glimpse at the end. If the character wasn't cut, I can't see them making him a white walker since it'd cost more to have an actor in the make-up portray him for more than a few seconds.

He sacrificed them to the gods the wildlings worshipped.

Just like everything else in this show they have changed some things.

Coldhands rides a horse in the tv show and he is a white walker in the show. He's been shown three times now. Once in one of the trailers. His horse was shown in Bran's vision, and his face has been glimpsed quickly.

 

[Primal Slayer]

The Twyin/Daenerys/Tyrion/Tyrell scenes were my favorites of the episode.

 

[kvz5]

They Tywin scenes were my favorite. That is one smooth mother****er.

 

[Kane52630]

Pretty decent episode, Tryion, Twyin, Arya, and the Hound was the best part. lol

 

[Kane52630]

 

[Thundercrack85]

Yeah, Jaime raping Cersei was a major step back for his character. He better regret it and decide he doesn't love her or something better come of it cause as of now they've **** all over his development.

The preview for next week showed a quick glimpse of Coldhands! I swear he looks like the same one that let Sam live.

This isn't the first major change though. Remember when he killed his cousin? That never happened in the books.

 

[iamlegend]

Did Martin say what happens to the babies in the books? Because I can't recall....

It's largely hinted that they become White Walkers, though that's never been confirmed.

 

[iamlegend]

This isn't the first major change though. Remember when he killed his cousin? That never happened in the books.

The show has to work a little harder to show how twisted up inside certain characters are, since we can't see inside their heads like we do in the books. For Jaime, this was one of those moments.

 

[Marvolo]

This isn't the first major change though. Remember when he killed his cousin? That never happened in the books.

I know this isn't the first major change. I don't even consider this a major change. I simply consider it a major step back. And him killing his cousin occurred before he was redeemed. You can't redeem a detestable character like Jaime and build him up to a relatable and likable character then have him rape his sister on the floor of the Sept in front of his son's corpse. It's just poor writing, and undoes the work of last season.

 

[Maximus One]

I'm gonna play devil's advocate here a bit and say, I didn't really see it as rape while it was happening. I kept hearing people talking about this scene and when the episode was over I was sitting there like "Wait, who got raped??" She was barely fighting him off at all. What happened to Dr Melfi on The Sopranos, now that's rape. This was more like what happened with Tommy Gavin and his wife on Rescue Me.

 

[Maximus One]

Tv is a visual medium and I think that if the scene was meant to come across as Jaime straight up raping Cersei they would have had her fight him off a lot harder than that. It would've showed that.

 

[Slushy]

$10 says Olenna was behind the assassination. Nobody would see it coming!

 

[Drz]

Just because a women isn't physically fightning doesn't mean it's not rape. Not all women are capable of fightning back or struggle emotionally.

She said no plenty of times, she pushed him away, just because her clitoris got wet, doesn't mean it wasn't a rape.

 

[Maximus One]

Still seems different to me. And nobody said its not rape cuz her clitoris got wet. I'm just saying that tv is a visual medium and if they were meaning to convey rape then there's a lot more they could have done to drive that home. I mean, do women kiss men that are in the middle of raping them??

 

[CapedCrusader14]

I must have been the only one who really loved that episode.

 

[Maximus One]

I liked it a lot. Really loved the Stannis and Davos scene and the Tommen and Tywin scene

 

[CapedCrusader14]

Tommen and Tywin was the highlight for me by far.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

The Jaime/Cersei relationship is far more nuanced. I didn't see it as rape.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Each episode this season gets better and better. This might be my favorite since Blackwater. The structure of each episode is so much better then season 2 and 3. They don't float around anymore. They stay with a character for a duration. Instead of spreading 5-7 mins over 2 or 3 scenes, just 1. So much better.

- I found the opening a bit "off" until Sansa got to the boat. Then we had Littlefinger being even creepier then I thought possible and Sansa seems almost worse off then she was before. How that is possible, I am not quite sure.

-Tywin is now the king of exposition.

- Tommen feels just a bit too old for me now.

- Jaime and Cersei just shagged over their dead brat's body. Yeah, that happened.

- Arya and Sandor continue to be the greatest duo in the history of television. The evolution of their relationship is so much fun to watch. It is hard to decide which of them has the better lines. Arya's whole father/daughter shtick had me cracking up. "He's never been the same."

- It took them two whole seasons, but Jon, the Wall and the Wildlings are back to being completely compelling. Thank you.

- Sam and Gilly was adorably awkward for her, a bit creepy for him.

- Tyrion and Pod was all kinds of heartbreaking. Has there ever been a mediocre Tyrion scene, much less a bad one?

- I remember when I thought Shireen wasn't going to be on the show. Thank the Seven that didn't happen. They may not quite get Stannis, but watching Shireen and Davos makes me smile endlessly. I love her being a little fire cracker. "You won't be a very good Hand if you see the word knight and say "kanigate"."

- Not only does Dany look hotter then ever, her story is actually entertaining again. Amazing.

 

[BatmanBeyond]

I must say I loved Davos verbally *****-slapping Stannis basically, with the whole "we're willing to employ black magic, but unwilling to hire sellswords...WTF, dude???". Go Davos!

The Tywin/Tommen and Tywin/Oberyn scenes were ace too.