The Dark Knight Heath Ledger Dead - ALL talk/rememberance and discussion in here

[Agent 194]

What a shame. Young guy. Too bad.

 

[The Shape]

and you thought telling the irrational people that would help them?

Sounds like it.

 

[ChocheTheHero]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQGqc9XgiHI

To him. R.I.P.

 

[BatmanFanatic]

I was working and got a text message : “Heath Ledger Is Dead.”

I had to pull over when I saw it but I was hoping it wasn’t real… =(
Still somehow I had a sick feeling in my stomach that it was.

Now I just got home to visit you guys on the boards.
It feels like we’ve all lost a friend =(

I was so looking forward to his performance in TDK and I was really starting to turn into a big Ledger fan while researching everything he’d done before in anticipation for TDK. I listened to all these audio and video interviews with him, and he seemed just like the next generation of actors like Johnny Depp and Christian Bale who take risks and are brilliant actors and rebel against the “pretty-body-teen-idol” trap of Hollywood. I so admired him for that, and for not taking the easy way or the boring roles … being willing to get flack for Brokeback and Joker because he wanted to challenge himself and do something different. Heath took control of his career and refused to be “managed” and have someone else tell him what parts to play.

He was willing to give his all as an artist . . . just like the rare, brilliant actors are willing to do. He was so talented. It’s such a shock to see this happen, and I know we wont know more until later but I hope it’s not a depression related suicide/intentional overdose. That would make it all the worse to think he was unhappy in the midst of such success and brilliant creative work. I hope everyone is wrong about the drugs and it was an accidental overdose or a freak accident / chemical reaction like Bruce Lee's death.

The whole situation just reminds me of Brandon Lee and Marylin Monroe.

No one should die so young. No matter how great the parts they played, no matter how immortalized they will become by the tragedy, it’s never worth it…it’s always tragic and horrible to be remembered for an early death rather than a long and prolific life.

I wonder if I will be able to enjoy any of his films now, knowing the sad ending to his story. I’ll probably be crying during TDK now, even in the midst of Jokers glee. His life completely overshadows anything a film could be.

And I keep thinking back to all these audio clips I’ve heard him say, that are so haunting and creepy now. “The Joker is the most fun I’ve ever had in a movie. Probably the most fun I’ll ever have.” It’s just horrible! I can’t stop thinking about it. And I keep thinking about all the fans who said “they better not kill of the Joker in this one, or I’d be so pissed, blah blah…” now it just seems so bitterly ironic, no matter what they do with the Joker, Heath is gone forever and that performance will never be touched.

And I can’t stop hearing the Brokeback Mtn themesong in my head because it’s the most bitterly somber and tragic piece of music… it just seems to fit the moment. Do you know what I mean?

I feel like I can’t do anything now. It’s strange to grieve for a person you’ve never met, but I think we all are =(



RIP Heath.

 

[DeaDheaD]

If the Joker were really able to drive him to suicide then there was a much deeper, underlying issue. The role only served as a trigger.

I dont think it was the Joker that drove him to it, It sounds like he was sick(pnuemonia, is what the family said) and wanted to go to sleep, I dont think this was a depressed addict looking to "end it all b/c of the joker or any other character he played" This seems like a really bad mistake.

 

[The-Dark-Knight]

Matt you seem to just be agravating people, you not think it would be best if you just left or watched? (as a mod if you have to?)

 

[Majik1387]

I'm really hating this lag.

As for the role of Joker supposedly driving him to suicide, I think that's bull**** and some fanboys are overreaching the popularity of the Joker. This movie is in post-production, meaning they filmed everything and it's in the editing process; Heath wouldn't have to be worrying about playing him anymore until a future movie. However, when people do give their all in a role, it can take an effect on the body, but that can be with any role. As other's have said, he was sick with Pneumonia and he had meds for it, along with sleeping pills. I'm sure he was just trying to get back to his normal time schedule.

 

[Jedi Master]

For christ's sake he had sleeping pills next to his bedside. He couldn't sleep. For two hours I was watching Fox News/Prime Time News (CNN), both said that Heath had trouble sleeping because he was troubled and fascinated with The Joker character. I can't find a valid source right now, but I'm sure it will coem up soon. I'll try to find it, but this forum is wayyy too laggy.

-_- BANNED.

 

[The Joker]

If the Joker were really able to drive him to suicide then there was a much deeper, underlying issue. The role only served as a trigger.

Definitely!

Heath himself said in interviews that playing Joker was the most fun he'd ever had and probably ever will have with a character.

 

[gfleming21]

the sickening part was that when i first saw it i thought it was some sort of joker joke or related to the viral in some way

 

[zelas]

rest in peace ...


T_T

 

[baTT]

Where as I am saddened by this turn of events and I know that people are probably gonna give me a lot of heat for this:

The Dark Knight Movie goes on as scheduled IMO

We do not know exactly what happened to Heath, but if anyone of us died for whatever reason, do you think we would really want people to stop living their lives? It is going to sound very corny, but Heath would probably want this to keep going full steam ahead. Virals and all. I am sure there will be respect made towards him and the camera man that died durring the making of this movie, but the best way to honor his death would be to show how talented he is, and showcase what an amazing job he did.

People are born and die everyday in this world, its life and as it is life, it has to go on. It is what we do while we are here that has the effect on others. We can remember him as a teenager falling in love, a cowboy with a secret, a knight from the past or The Clown Prince of Crime.

 

[teh Puffy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQGqc9XgiHI

To him. R.I.P.

Now that brought tears to my eyes, I am sorry.

I had tears when i seen that LETS PUT A SMILE ON MY FACE in the bootleg version let alone the hd version and thought absolutely amazing it brought tears to my eyes.

Now I have it where he turns and on his jacket tot he side is his RIP dates. So sad.

 

[donk70]

Some news reports are saying that he was sick with pnuemonia

 

[Tony Stark]

I came in here expecting to see condolences for a tragedy, and now I'm reading crap about how playing the Joker may have led to his drug addiction. Honestly the lack of maturity on this site, and the fanboyism is almost unbearable.

Ledger had a drug problem, whatever the reason that caused it, he was caught up in a world of drug addiction, and people ought to be concerned about that and the impact of drugs on our scociety than worry about the freaking Joker.

This is a tragedy for him and his family, and some of you ought to have some human decency to think about that. Honestly some of you need to grow the hell up.

I apologize for my tirade, but I was absolutely shocked at some of the crap I was reading from people on this thread.

 

[DonnyLebeau]

You know... the show must go on.
I personally would like to see another actor fill the socks of the joker if he is to be written into the third movie as planned. But no different take on the character. The greatest way to carry on Heath's legacy as the joker is to mimic him. Pay respects to the version of the joker that Heath created. That's my opinion on how the future installment should be handled should the Joker return.

But either way... I'm still in a state of shock. Feels like a dream...

That may be just as bad as them continuing the Crow series after Brandon Lee died... It was just one bad sequel after another. I mean Ed Furlong as the Crow???

The Crow was great considering the tragedy that befell during filming. But they just watered it down with those bad sequels. Heath's role will be even more glorified with his death and choosing another actor to continue it would only take away to what he contributed.

 

[Poeman]

This comment is absolutely ****ing ludicrous. This is exactly, believe it or not what fan boys want to think. That he was some Joker obsessive. He takes different roles because he's an actor. I'm pretty sure he would have felt just as strongly about say Brokeback Mountain.

dude im not even a hardcore fan..but for his new film, the director had sent him home because he came in acting too much like the joker

 

[StorminNorman]

When I first heard the news I had to laugh - because I didn't know how to respond. I mean this is a tragedy on too many levels. This is a man who had so many big bright things in store for him and yet was apparently haunted by the very passion that was bringing him success.

My heart goes to Matilda who has to live a life where watching A Knights Tale and The Patriot is the closest she can come to knowing her father.

Most reports I have read indicate that sleeping pills were to blame - and that this was not an intentional suicide though, of course, this will not be known for sure until tomorrow.

I have read one news story (and only one) that points to him having a bad heroine addiction. This story also seemed to push the idea he died of hard drugs. I have heard no other story backing this up though I wouldn't necessarily be shocked if that was the case.

I can only hope that WB doesn't do anything stupid. Honestly I would try to do my best to play up Heath's performance as tastefully as I could. I think Heath would want it celebrated.

 

[regwec]

Perhaps Matt ought to take a short break. I think his opinions are reasonable enough, but it isn't right at this time that a mod should be doing more to exacerbate than to relieve tension.

 

[danoyse]

I didn't tell them its wrong. I didn't probate them. I just made a suggestion to talk to someone real, that people are blowing way out of porportion.

I don't think it's that unusual. I was in college when Kurt Cobain killed himself and knew people who mourned like their best friend died. I had a friend who was a huge River Phoenix fan and had to walk out of the room when we were watching one of his movies because it was too upsetting for her to watch.

Hell, my mom still hasn't gotten over John Lennon getting shot.

When someone means something to you and suddenly they're gone...it's a shock and people deal in different ways, even if it means a more extreme reaction at first.

I'm absolutely stunned by the news. He was a terrific actor, I know he had a young daughter, and I loved what I saw of him as The Joker so far.

And it does completely affect the movie this summer. Good luck finding one news article about this movie that doesn't reference Heath's death. It's a total shame on all sides. What a loss.

 

[Nivek]

Well, in my opinion, and this part is strictly opinion, I think it is.

Jesus... This just happened hours ago, alot of people are upset by this. And you still throw around the gasoline...

 

[pyromaniac]

I didn't tell them its wrong. I didn't probate them. I just made a suggestion to talk to someone real, that people are blowing way out of porportion.

You can do that, but don't make presumptions about the nature of grief. It's not like they could help it, or that it was not a voluntary reflex to begin with.

Ever get a feeling in your stomach, heart, that you can't explain, especially over something that you thought were minor, trivial, unimportant? You can only ride it through.

But once all that's done, then probably time to talk to someone 'real'. Just don't give people ideas as to what grief should be experienced, because I have put holes in your argument.

 

[Jlandsw]

I dont think it was the Joker that drove him to it, It sounds like he was sick(pnuemonia, is what the family said) and wanted to go to sleep, I dont think this was a depressed addict looking to "end it all b/c of the joker or any other character he played" This seems like a really bad mistake.

No wonder he was shivering in that one interview.

There's a very recent interview on YouTube with him talking about the joker and he's holding his arms like he's freezing or something.

 

[logan_weapon_x]

It's not a ludicrous comment. He's saying that it came from FOX/CNN news

Learn how to read!

I did read it, hence why I quoted the whole comment. YOU LEARN HOW TO READ!

 

[Taiwarriorz21]

To all of the people saying that the won't replace him as joker if they make a third:

I don't think it's disrespectful to get an actor to try and duplicate his version of the joker. If anything, they're paying tribute to his brilliant interpretation.
I really hope that if they planned on having joker in the third, that he is. The show must go on.

I hope that this particular string of batman movies continues for a long time, and when actors can no longer portray the characters on screen (for any reason) that new actors fill their spots.

yea i hope that they will allow the show to go on and will find some new actor that will honor heath ledger's portrayal.