The Dark Knight Rises Heath's Joker CAN be brought back...But do we WANT it back?

[raider34r]

I love the idea of using CGI to bring back heath ledger's joker but only in a cameo.

I could just picture a scene were Batman could visit arkham, and hes walking by the cells, and u could see the joker for a few seconds or something, making weird faces and stuff.

 

[nolan's roll'n]

I love the idea of using CGI to bring back heath ledger's joker but only in a cameo.

I could just picture a scene were Batman could visit arkham, and hes walking by the cells, and u could see the joker for a few seconds or something, making weird faces and stuff.

Yeah that would be cool to see a Hannibal Lector type Arkham appearance/cameo in Batman 3 using CGI to bring Heath back. Nolan did say he hates using CGI and he avoided it when making BB and TDK.

 

[raider34r]

Yeah that would be cool to see a Hannibal Lector type Arkham appearance/cameo in Batman 3 using CGI to bring Heath back. Nolan did say he hates using CGI and he avoided it when making BB and TDK.

But, he still uses CGI , a little, so a scene like this shouldn't hurt. The technology is there to make this possible, and make it look realistic.

 

[nolan's roll'n]

But, he still uses CGI , a little, so a scene like this shouldn't hurt. The technology is there to make this possible, and make it look realistic.

Do you agree with my Hannibal Lector type scene with the Joker in Arkham?

 

[The Major]

But, he still uses CGI , a little, so a scene like this shouldn't hurt. The technology is there to make this possible, and make it look realistic.

They don't need this to use Joker in a sequel. Just recast.

 

[raider34r]

They don't need this to use Joker in a sequel. Just recast.

I know, but I dont like recasting, I prefer this alternative

Do you agree with my Hannibal Lector type scene with the Joker in Arkham?

yea i do, but as I described it. It would be cool to see other villains too, from the past two films, like scarecrow, or falcone as well as any of the villiains of Batman 3 who end up at arkham.

 

[nickyg641]

I don't understand how someone could prefer a computer mimicking Ledger's performance over a human being portraying the character. It's like something Ed Wood would do if he were alive today.

 

[CaptainClown]

I don't understand how someone could prefer a computer mimicking Ledger's performance over a human being portraying the character. It's like something Ed Wood would do if he were alive today.

I dunno. I still don't get how people find it necessary to include him into the next one. Meh.. I think there is so much you can do without him on screen.

 

[Sentinel X]

I dunno. I still don't get how people find it necessary to include him into the next one. Meh.. I think there is so much you can do without him on screen.

You know the only reason people suddenly don't want Joker in the next one is because Heath Ledger died. The Joker was AWESOME in TDK and even before TDK people kept stressing that they don't want the Joker killed off (thankfully he wasn't) in order to keep him for a possible sequel. Now that Heath is dead practically nobody wants Joker back.......but I still do. He is an awesome charecter and I don't want TDK to be the last I see of him, just like I didn't want Batman Begins to be Scarecrow's last appearance...same goes with Joker who is a BILLION times more cool than scarecrow.

 

[excreations]

You know the only reason people suddenly don't want Joker in the next one is because Heath Ledger died. The Joker was AWESOME in TDK and even before TDK people kept stressing that they don't want the Joker killed off (thankfully he wasn't) in order to keep him for a possible sequel. Now that Heath is dead practically nobody wants Joker back.......but I still do. He is an awesome charecter and I don't want TDK to be the last I see of him, just like I didn't want Batman Begins to be Scarecrow's last appearance...same goes with Joker who is a BILLION times more cool than scarecrow.

its not that we dont want the joker in the next film, its just we dont want to see somebody else trying to be heaths joker.

 

[Jick]

I don't want him back...simply because he got the entire second movie for him.
let's move on. there's others great villains waiting to be used.

 

[excreations]

and some will say "well they can take a diffrent take on the joker opposite from heaths" hell no i would not want to see a diffrent joker especially if it doesnt live up to heaths joker in tdk. and it would definetly be strange to see somebody trying to copy heaths take on the joker.

 

[Changeling]

No. Just. No.

 

[Cunning Stunts]

its not that we dont want the joker in the next film, its just we dont want to see somebody else trying to be heaths joker.

But that's exactly it... The Joker isn't Heath's character. Sure, he had an amazingly-done spin on him, but that's not to say it can't be continued. Everyone's playing Heath up to be like he's a one-of-a-kind actor that we've never seen before and that we'll never see again, despite the fact that we currently have actors in Hollywood now who I have no doubt could continue what Ledger did with The Joker.

If this was a series like Hancock, where everything was brand new, and The Joker was basically created by Heath, then yes, I'd say don't re-cast... But this is a character that's more important to Batman than any other.

 

[The Major]

But that's exactly it... The Joker isn't Heath's character. Sure, he had an amazingly-done spin on him, but that's not to say it can't be continued. Everyone's playing Heath up to be like he's a one-of-a-kind actor that we've never seen before and that we'll never see again, despite the fact that we currently have actors in Hollywood now who I have no doubt could continue what Ledger did with The Joker.

Agreed.

If this was a series like Hancock, where everything was brand new, and The Joker was basically created by Heath, then yes, I'd say don't re-cast... But this is a character that's more important to Batman than any other.

Any character can be recast. Joker is no different.

People seem to forget that in film franchises like Batman.

 

[excreations]

all im trying to say is that joker in the nolan series should not be recast thats all. as for the other future batman movies that nolan has nothing do with then yeah im fine with a new joker.

 

[Sentinel X]

But why???

I LOVE Heath Ledger. A truly gifted actor and I regret he has passed away so soon but he isn't the best actor out there. There are people that can fill in his shoes.

I HIGHLY doubt the beguiling demonic soul known as the Joker would really stay in Arkham, he'd find a way to get out. Something is telling me before Heath died Nolan certainly planned on using him for Batman 3.

I wish Heath were alive, then that would be pretty much a certainty....bummer

 

[thundercatsho]

Did it feel awkward and weird for you in Batman Begins?

He wasn't introduced yet, but now that he is, we're expecting him to be there. He's one of the most famous villains in pop culture.

 

[The Major]

He wasn't introduced yet,

My point was Batman's movies don't need Joker to be great. Who knows the next villain might be even more interesting then Joker was in the next sequel.

but now that he is, we're expecting him to be there.

Nothing a recasting won't fix.

That said the sequels could be excellent without him directly showing up.

He's one of the most famous villains in pop culture.

I know how famous the Joker is.

 

[Dark Globe]

The reason why I want Joker back is because he's an "Unstoppable force". The only way I see the Joker stopping is if he's dead. They don't have to recast, but is an animated movie between TDK and the next film too hard to ask for?

 

[ScarecrowMan666]

Alot of people think that just because he was in TDK, that he absolutely has to be in the next one...and that's just not true. The Batman universe is rich with great villains. Black Mask, Mad Hatter,Killer Croc,Clayface,
Hell even Maxie Zeus. There's just so much for Nolan to choose from, that it would be a waste if we didn't see someone new.

 

[thundercatsho]

The only person I see being recast as the Joker is Johnny Depp, I'm pretty conifident he can imitate Ledger's Joker to a tee.

 

[thundercatsho]

Alot of people think that just because he was in TDK, that he absolutely has to be in the next one...and that's just not true. The Batman universe is rich with great villains. Black Mask, Mad Hatter,Killer Croc,Clayface,
Hell even Maxie Zeus. There's just so much for Nolan to choose from, that it would be a waste if we didn't see someone new.

You forgot Crazy Quilt.

 

[The Major]

You forgot Crazy Quilt.

Joker is a great villain. He's not the only good one Batman has.

 

[CaptainClown]

You forgot Crazy Quilt.

AMH for Crazy Quilt!