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8/10

It seemed a little more del Toro than Mignola this time around, it looked gorgeous but the characterization seemed a little off to me. Overall I quite enjoyed it.
 
8/10

It seemed a little more del Toro than Mignola this time around, it looked gorgeous but the characterization seemed a little off to me. Overall I quite enjoyed it.

i agree

it wasnt crazy bad that it ruined the movie but something was off. I think where the first lacked the second was strong (visual effects, bigger scope, more in depth story) and where the second lacked the first was great (better humor, dialogue and acting in general plus better villain IMO).
 
I thought the humor was about equal but HBII was more of a step up.
 
As an average moviegoer, I liked it fine.
As a Hellboy fan, I outright hated it with a passion.
The characters look like they stepped out of the page...but behave like a totally diferent person. The entire BPRD was like a cartoon parody of their comic book counterparts. Still, the visuals are stunning and are worth the ticket (and the DVD). It's a pretty fun movie, just a terrible Hellboy adaptation.
 
Prince Nuada was an amazing character, and I love his interaction with the other characters. I , especially loved the scenes between him and his sister. Having seen his character and fallen in love with him, am I the only one who wants to see the Dark Elf trilogy put on film and possibly with Del Toro directing?
 
i agree

it wasnt crazy bad that it ruined the movie but something was off. I think where the first lacked the second was strong (visual effects, bigger scope, more in depth story) and where the second lacked the first was great (better humor, dialogue and acting in general plus better villain IMO).


I thought the second had a much better villian than the first. Hellboy had multiple fights against Prince Nuada in Hellboy 2. I don't remember Hellboy having any fights against Rasputin in Hellboy 1. Rasputin didn't even have that much screen time in Hellboy. Furthermore, I thought most of the humor in Hellboy 2 worked. The sequel had me laughing a lot more than the original.
 
Im not saying it wasnt funny, im just saying the first was funnier. And Im not saying Nuada was bad, just that Rasputin was better.
 
The practical special effects were great but the Kraus suit was clunky, the CGI was average (in my opinion, the elemental battle wasn't needed); but the whole film I just wasn't as in to the Norse mythology elf/troll thing as I was into the satanic/Christian aspects of the original film. It felt too much like Men in Black. I'd rather they were out after a wolfman (or creature from a black Lagoon) than a secret underground world.

The best scene in the film came early
when Hellboy allows himself to be blown out the window. The film should have built up to this as a false climax
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Just saw it earlier today. I liked it. A bit sprawling and at times almost unwieldy, but I enjoyed it. Just wish the princess had more screen time. Hope they make a third one.
 
Hm. Well, I have to be completely honest here, this is coming from the average movie goer here. I haven't even seen the first one, I know absolutely nothing about Hellboy, and I haven't really anticipated this movie at all. In fact, the TV spots got me to see it, so there you go.

Anyway, the thing I liked most about this movie is what had me interested to see it in the first place. The visuals. Honestly one of the most visually exciting and interesting movies I've seen. The Elf (Were they elves? I honestly know nothing about this character) King turning to whatever that was (sand?) when he died was great, and I couldn't take my eyes off his Bib Fortuna type fellow trying to keep the prince out.

The old lady with the cats was one of my favorite parts of the movie and the troll's market was fantastic, so many absurdly imaginative characters, and that 'tumor,' wow. On the visuals alone I might see this again. I've looked it up and the Angle of Death? WOW.

Now, I do have a few problems with other parts of the film. Actually most of them aren't problems, just things I was rather 'meh' about.

So, on that, some of the dialog seemed a little forced.* Liz (The women with the fire, see? I told you) had some parts that were just bad in my opinion, just lines that were bland, lines that sort of take the short cut and don't have much meat to them.

Another big one was the Villain trying to talk Hellboy out of shooting the giant "plant monster." The whole sequence with him on the roof really would have been better with more build up of the Humans VS Freaks (That the right word) conflict. I know, they call him ugly and stare and the department gives him ****, but it didn't seem like it was developed enough for me. Concerning that development, the threat of the Golden Army seemed greatly underdeveloped, it just didn't seem that urgent.

In addition there were some plot wholes that I didn't really like, you know, why doesn't he just shoot the guy, why didn't she just melt the crown, doesn't he know he won't kill her because he will die too? But this actually didn't bother me that much, I expected a fun action packed film with great visuals and thats exactly what I got. It really was all over the place in tone, comedy here, serious here, etc, and while in some films that would be a negative I think that thats what the goal was here.. Making room for the bad dialog in some scenes and underdeveloped plot points, I still think the film succeeded fantastically in what it set out to do. Of course, maybe I'm off 100% and I don't know the first thing about what the goal was here, but thats what I'm thinking now. If I'm wrong, so be it.

I think that its important to look at what the film is supposed to be when reviewing it. For instance, I looked at a negative review of TDK saying it is too long and dark. Looking for another Iron Man, that perfectly accurate, but I thats not what it was meant to be.

*I think that my dislike of certain plot points and dialog being underdeveloped in this film may be because of my not having seen the first film, not understanding the characters fully, etc. So taking that into account, while I do think as I saw it the film had some problems in that area, it wasn't a deal breaker for me.
 
Well I said screw gas prices and saw the movie monday.

I saw the first one in theaters and liked it and when I heard this one was coming out I knew I had to see it. I loved every bit of it. Seth as the voice of Johann was awesome and funny. I felt that Liz was a litttle bland but Selma was great at showing Liz's love for Hellboy. I'm so glad that Doug Jones did the voice of Abe, he was awesome, and of course Ron Pearlman was amazing as Hellboy. The entire cast had great chemistry.

I have to say that it did feel that there was something missing, but it didn't really hurt the movie's story at all. There were a few cheesy parts but I have to say that the cheesy parts make Hellboy, Hellboy. I think thats why I love the movies so much. The characters arent like average superheroes, they are just trying to live their lives and do what they can do to help others. they are in my opinion very different from the average superhero and I think thats why I love the characters and the movies, its not your average superhero movie.

Some of my favorite scenes include:
1. The locker room with HB and Johann
2. When HB and Abe get drunk and sing along to the Can't Smile Without You song, and when Abe almost tells HB about Liz being preggers. Doug was great at playing a drunk Abe.
3. The Angel of Death scene.
4. The credits, just cuz it reminded me of how funny the drunk scene was.

I give it a 9.7/10

Hope they make a third. I'd love to see what happens to the characters. I know that the director has other movies he has to make, but I hope he makes those soon, cuz I wanna see Hellboy 3. They left the end of this movie open to a third and if they don't make one I'm going to a little pissed. Cuz I kinda really want to know whats going to happen to Liz and how she will suffer the most.
 
8/10 It was a good movie. It definitely improved in some spots, but at the same time, it was weaker in other spots. The thing that bugged me was that the characterization could have been better. But still, I'm hoping for a third.
 
As an average moviegoer, I liked it fine.
As a Hellboy fan, I outright hated it with a passion.
The characters look like they stepped out of the page...but behave like a totally diferent person. The entire BPRD was like a cartoon parody of their comic book counterparts. Still, the visuals are stunning and are worth the ticket (and the DVD). It's a pretty fun movie, just a terrible Hellboy adaptation.

Mignola has stated many times that the movie verse is completely different from his comic verse. I forget the exact quote, but he said that every different adaptation of HB should be completely different, and not try to be a translation of the original. Which is why he welcomed the difference in characterization for the movies. Movie HB is a separate character simply inspired by the comic Hellboy.
 
Which rocks :up:


Except when I watched Hellboy Animated and wondered what the heck was going on...
 
The movie was good...just as I expected it would be. FAR BETTER than the first, and when I say that I am referring to the pace of the action in the movie and the movement of the story.

The first was too drawn out or something IMO. Heck I fell asleep at the movie theater when I saw the first HB, and I NEVER fall asleep at the movies. However, there were some good things about the first.

I enjoyed the mythical exploration the second movie took. I shows that in the HB universe there are demons and elves/fairies/trolls, etc. I really enjoyed that. Del Toro does a great job with his special effects and creature creation. His visionary outlook is intense.

However, he does tend to stretch a movie and at times move it at a slow pace like in HB and Pan's Labyrinth.

The actor who played Nuada/Nomak is good. He needs to be in more Comic/Superhero/ Villain or hero roles. He has a great screen presence and could probably carry a franchise.
 
Yeah, I keep saying that guy (Luke Goss) should totally play Namor.
 
Yeah, I keep saying that guy (Luke Goss) should totally play Namor.

Namor would be good for him. I can definitely see that. If not that then definitely a film where he can make the role. Heck he could honestly be the next big action foreign star like Statham, Li, Chan, Daniel Craig, etc....

DC or Marvel needs to grab him fast before someone else does.
 
First time I saw it: 6/10
Second time I saw it: 9.5/10

If you thought it was so-so the first time seeing it go see it again it's alot better the second time around. I loved the Troll Market and the Elemental was sweet. Prince Nuada was a kick-ass villian and the final fight was awesome. Krauss was really cool too and the voice was perfect.
 
Saw it last night, a real fun film and a classic monster movie. A lot of laughs, but halfway through the movie I had to tell the kids behind me to stop kicking the back of my seat which ticked me off.

Other than that it was fine.:woot:


I liked the nods to other classic monster films; especially An American Werewolf in London.
 
Saw it last night, loved it.

Favorite scenes:
-Hellboy blown out the window
-Troll Market
-The "I know! I'm ugly!" line
-Drunken Abe and Hellboy singing Barry Manilow!!! So funny.
-Locker room scene
-The final battle with the Golden Army
-Any scene with the Princess in it...

9/10
 
I liked how the eye-wear showed Hellboy's true form with the horns out and the flaming crown over his head.

What is his real name again? And so was that the legendary Angel of Death or just any ol' Angel of Death? If so what was he doing in Ireland in the Troll Catacombs?
 
Honestly, it just didn't wow me. Perlman & Goss were great, but the story was underwhelming & I knew when the prince got nicked & his sister bled, exactly how the conflict would end. The team quitting made no sense to me & there were a lot of themes that were never fully explored.
 
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