Horror "Hellraiser" Remake

[Spider-ManHero12]

The first one was the creepiest.

Agreed.

 

[TheDreamMaster]

I liked this idea when Clive Barker was attached to it, but its better off dead. That new Hellraiser sequel looks like crap also too.

 

[Mike_D202]

I think it should be rebooted. "Hellraiser: Revelations." Need I say more?

 

[TheDreamMaster]

They need Barker on board, and he is working with The Scarlet Gospels, his new book that features the death of the Pinhead-character. I'd definitely reboot with Barker, then make an in between film, not necessarily based on Hellraiser II, but finish the trilogy with the Scarlet Gospels.

 

[WildcatNC]

God this new movie looks like a piece of ****. This is such a ripe horror mythology that I wish someone competent would do it right. Barker has to be a part of it as well.

 

[THANOSRULES]

Because the Hellraiser franchise was going so strong before this reboot.

There are tons of original properties, they just aren't as high-profile because they aren't based on things people know about.

I agree with everything you said here.

If you need an original good horror fix, go see Insidiuous.

 

[THANOSRULES]

I think it should be rebooted. "Hellraiser: Revelations." Need I say more?

The big revelation is that the movie blows.

 

[Maximus One]

Insidious was horrible. The idea was cool but the execution was just horrid

 

[HighFivingMF]

Insidious was horrible. The idea was cool but the execution was just horrid

No.

 

[obin_gam]

Insidious was horrible. The idea was cool but the execution was just horrid

Agreed 100% It was a very good movie up untill the half way point where they completely jumped the shark and became som sort of cheap made for tv ghost series.

 

[Maximus One]

I thought it was the other way around, thought it took about an hour until it got to the good parts. Again the story was cool, the whole thing about astral projection n everything awesome. But it was just written and executed horribly, plus that demon looked like Captain Howdy from Strangeland banged Darth Maul and had a little demon baby bleh

 

[WildcatNC]

I've heard extremes about Insidious. Everyone either thinks its awesome or thinks it sucks.

 

[obin_gam]

^ Yeah, the "turn" in the middle is a huge divider. I sort of get why the film makers did that, but they should just have stuck to one or the other.

Anyways, we should get back to hellrasier and gothic horror I think - are there movies that has the same feel like the first two hellraisers? Dark, gory and hellish I mean?

 

[Wolf Boy]

LOVE the original 2 films, what a great double feature, so creative and goretastic.

I'm actually open to a remake, could be cool, the concept art for Pinhead i saw the other day was awesome, very Giger. However, this new sequel looks like an a massive turd.

They just released both original Hellraisers on blu-ray, but i hear the transfer is really **** they also have zero features. Shame.

As for Insidious, first half, creepy as hell, great stuff, second half, laugh out loud cheesy MESS.

 

[Lord]

Has anybody seen Hellraiser: reveltations? From the budget and rushed production it seems like its sole purpose was for the studio to keep the rights for a future film in the series.

 

[-JKR-]

I agree, aswell, with whomever said that the first one was the creepiest. In addition to that, it was also the smartest, most engaging and most atmospheric. And watching it without really knowing the story (but mostly what "Hellraiser" is known for: cenobites) is a wonderful experience. I didn't expect the story to go in that direction, at all. Wonderful movie. And with all the nice ideas it may have, not even part 2 can keep up with the original.

 

[Maximus One]

I always preferred 2-4 to 1. 1 was boring as **** and while 3 and 4 aren't actually good or even have much to do with the first 2 they are still pretty rad. The rest sucked.

I gotta say though, I'm kinda mixed on Hellraiser as a whole. I watched Silent Hill Revelations like a week ago and posted on my Facebook this "Silent Hill Revelations, a movie that wants to be a Hellraiser movie but just never quite figures out how. Kinda like an Hellraiser movie." Meaning that, I've always felt that these movies shy away from what they should be in the first place. A Hellraiser movie should be a mix of Silent Hill, Hostel and Saw in one. There should be lots of gore, crazy Hell torture going on, tortured souls everywhere. And most of all, more focus on the ****ing cenobites! No more dumb ghost stories like Hellraiser Inferno where Pinhead had like 6 minutes screen time. They just never really figure out how to make the bloody, bdsm, gore filled movie you think they're going to make. Hellraiser should make you feel like you needa shower afterwards. You should be squirming in your chair from feeling so uncomfortable at what you're watching. At least IMHO. The horror genre is RIPE for this kind of storytelling. Mixing fantasy and horror like this, make it kinda epic, somebody actually travels to Hell like in part 2 and it's just gore and chains and hooks and blood and guts. People's souls all twisted coming outta the walls and just general twisted ****ed-up-ness. I want the story to still be there of course but I just want balls to the wall twisted **** when it comes to this franchise because it's what it should be and we've never hardly seen it

 

[-JKR-]

I always preferred 2-4 to 1. 1 was boring as **** and while 3 and 4 aren't actually good or even have much to do with the first 2 they are still pretty rad. The rest sucked.

I gotta say though, I'm kinda mixed on Hellraiser as a whole. I watched Silent Hill Revelations like a week ago and posted on my Facebook this "Silent Hill Revelations, a movie that wants to be a Hellraiser movie but just never quite figures out how. Kinda like an Hellraiser movie." Meaning that, I've always felt that these movies shy away from what they should be in the first place. A Hellraiser movie should be a mix of Silent Hill, Hostel and Saw in one. There should be lots of gore, crazy Hell torture going on, tortured souls everywhere. And most of all, more focus on the ****ing cenobites!

You know what I don't get when discussing movies. The "it SHOULD have been THAT" attitude. It's one thing to say that you'd like to see a movie like you describe, another one to fault a movie for being something which isn't in line with your own daydreams about possible movies. No, Hellraiser doesn't have to be a mix of Silent Hill, Hostel and Saw. If you'd like to see a movie which is a mix of Silent Hill, Hostel and Saw, with sprays of Hellraiser, that's fine - but that's also a whole diff'rent story!

I strongly disagree about the first one being boring (but that's, of course, a matter of taste). It's a breath of fresh air (if you can say that of a movie which was made over twenty years ago). I expected to see a movie about people opening a box and being tortured, and instead got a terrific tale of lust, murder, the crave for blood: the animalistic, demonic side of being human. A modern and skewed take on the romantic Gothic horror tales. Great atmosphere, wonderful writing, fantastic make-up effects. I LOVE it. The focus not being on the Cenobites makes it even better: not knowing too much about the box, the world of the Cenobites, gives these fantastic happenings a mythic aura, which I really enjoy. The world behind our world. Very mysterious, yet it can affect our lives. It's very unconventional, and DAMN, it delivers. Uncle Frank, by the way, was a TERRIFIC character (and I'm glad they didn't tinker with him too much in subsequent movies).

Never cared about the sequels, though. The second one has some nice ideas, but that's about it. It doesn't hold a candle to the original.

There should be more movies like this, but... you know... not LIKE this (otherwise it'd end up being a bland rehash of the movie).

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I agree, aswell, with whomever said that the first one was the creepiest. In addition to that, it was also the smartest, most engaging and most atmospheric. And watching it without really knowing the story (but mostly what "Hellraiser" is known for: cenobites) is a wonderful experience. I didn't expect the story to go in that direction, at all. Wonderful movie. And with all the nice ideas it may have, not even part 2 can keep up with the original.

This.

 

[-JKR-]

This.

What about THIS? t:

I strongly disagree about the first one being boring (but that's, of course, a matter of taste). It's a breath of fresh air (if you can say that of a movie which was made over twenty years ago). I expected to see a movie about people opening a box and being tortured, and instead got a terrific tale of lust, murder, the crave for blood: the animalistic, demonic side of being human. A modern and skewed take on the romantic Gothic horror tales. Great atmosphere, wonderful writing, fantastic make-up effects. I LOVE it. The focus not being on the Cenobites makes it even better: not knowing too much about the box, the world of the Cenobites, gives these fantastic happenings a mythic aura, which I really enjoy. The world behind our world. Very mysterious, yet it can affect our lives. It's very unconventional, and DAMN, it delivers. Uncle Frank, by the way, was a TERRIFIC character (and I'm glad they didn't tinker with him too much in subsequent movies).

Just curious, because I've never really had the chance to discuss the movie with anyone. And it's been over a year since I finally saw it (casually, on TV, in very "uh, 'Hellraiser', whatever, never seen it, always heard 'bout it, I'll give it a shot" way), and was completely surprised (in the best possible way).

 

[:eek:]

Clive Barker to Draft Hellraiser Reboot
A remake of Clive Barker's horror classic Hellraiser is back on track and fans should be pleased to learn that it is being developed by Barker himself. What's more, Doug Bradley will be back as Pinhead! The official announcement was posted to the filmmaker's Facebook page (via ShockTillYouDrop) and reads as follows:

HOT FROM HELL! My friends,I have some news which may be of interest to you. A few weeks ago I had a very productive meeting with Bob Weinstein of Dimension Pictures,in the course of which I pitched a remake of the first HELLRAISER film. The idea of my coming back to the original film and telling the story with a fresh intensity-honoring the structure and the designs from the first incarnation but hopefully creating an even darker and richer film-was attractive to Dimension. Today I have officially been invited to write the script based upon that pitch.

What can I tell you about it?

Well, it will not be a film awash with CGI. I remain as passionate about the power of practical make-up effects as I was when I wrote and directed the first HELLRAISER. Of course the best make-up in the world loses force if not inhabited by a first-rate actor. I told the Dimension team that in my opinion there could never be a Pinhead without Doug Bradley, and much to my delight Bob Weinstein agreed. So once the papers are signed, I will open a Lemarchand Configuration, dip my quill in its contents and start writing. I promise that there will be nowhere on the Internet where the news of my progress will be more reliable than here ,because the only author of these reports will be Your Infernal Corespondent ,me.

My very best wishes to you all,my friends. Clive.

Originally released in 1987, Hellraiser was followed by eight different sequels, the first two of which featured Barker as producer.

 

[Warhammer]

The thing I fear about a remake is that they will morph and butcher the point of the Cenobites. They aren't villains. They simply do their job. From the third film on, they become typical, one dimensional villains. Now if the remake is more like the first two films (especially the original which is a great horror film), it'd be cool.

 

[Piper Maru]

Sounds interesting!

 

[Mike_D202]

Yeah the cenobites weren't out to "get" anyone, just dragged whomever opened the box or escaped from them. That's what made the scene at the end of the first one so creepy (where Kirsty lures Frank back to the cenobites), she witnesses first hand what they do right in front of her. It's more horrifying to witness things like that instead of being directly invovled, knowing that they can take you if they wanted but your not the one they are after.

 

[:eek:]

Clive Barker Talks "Hellraiser" Reboot

By Garth Franklin Saturday November 1st 2014 06:52AM
After various attempts to get the "Hellraiser" franchise off the ground again in recent years, word came a year ago that The Weinstein Company had sparked to an idea by the franchise's creator Clive Barker.
With the release of the director's cut of "Nightbreed" on disc this month, Barker recently gave an interview to EW and confirmed he has finished the second draft of the new "Hellraiser" which will both reboot and expand the story:

"I think the phrase is 'reboot,' although I've never really understood what that meant. I wanted to make sure we sounded some fresh notes.
The movie actually begins on Devil's Island. I wanted to fold into the Hellraiser narrative something about the guy - the Frenchman Lemarchand - who made the mysterious box, which raises Pinhead.
I figured, ‘Well, what would have happened to him?' He might well have been taken to Devil's Island [a penal colony] and I thought that would be a pretty cool place to start the movie. We're waiting for Bob [Weinstein] to come back to us and see when we're going to actually make the movie."
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Barker only plans to write the reboot, no word on who may potentially direct