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[AgentPat]

PS: Anyone know how the ratings are doing?

The ratings are fantastic. They broke WB records two weeks in a row for Thursday viewership, and they're *smoking* the competition in the target 18-34 y.o. male demographic.

 

[MJZ]

I had a feeling once the missile went off that we'd see a flight.

I loved the Christ-like themes and "Death of Superman" flavor to the episode.

At the rate they're going there's no doubt they'll finish out 7 seasons. These episodes are blowing away anything that came before it.

 

[KikiDee]

All I can say is Wowwwwww!!!! It just keeps getting better and better and see they did mention safe sex. Had to get that in there

 

[Mike_D]

if things are this great so far in the season, makes you wonder how they'll handle the mid-season cliffhangers and the season finale!! CANT WAIT!

 

[Anguissette1979]

I wonder how long it'll be before someone starts a poll on who is going to die

Not long. Not long at all.

 

[Serene]

I wonder how long it'll be before someone starts a poll on who is going to die

I was a little freaked out after Clark was revived. I was so afraid they were going to shock the $hit out of us and have one of the biggies drop dead! I mean.. there was a lot of stuff in this ep was surprised me already.

When Clark was sitting with Chloe in the loft.. I was SO afraid she was going to suddenly clutch her chest and keel over! LOL....

 

[AgentPat]

Lionel wasn't Jor-El until the moment that Clark died. I'm sure of that.

Mmm... I'm not so sure. In Arrival, the Kryptonite rocks in Lex's safe (the sentinels) glowed green when Lionel got near them.

But that's neither here nor there. I'm fairly certain Lionel was referring to Brainiac when he said only "he" could open [the ship].

 

[OobeDoobBenubi]

I am actually surprised the writers are NOT forcing things so fast with who is going to die. Nice to see they are gonna build up to it

 

[user123456789]

I had a feeling once the missile went off that we'd see a flight.

I loved the Christ-like themes and "Death of Superman" flavor to the episode.

At the rate they're going there's no doubt they'll finish out 7 seasons. These episodes are blowing away anything that came before it.

ditto. I actually enjoyed his super-leap more than I would if he had flown. He (Clark) doesn't know how to fly yet, so super-leap would be the next best thing. Their SFX are getting better too.

The last Lana and Clark scene was so well choreographed.. i nearly cried. Slow motion of Lana jumpin to hug Clark. Clark then grasps here as hard as he can (without killin her ofcourse). The wideshot of him standing straight up, holding her nearly 12 inches off the ground was priceless. They then rub noses and she caresses his face. PRICELESS. EXCELLENT DIRECTING.

 

[Mike_D]

Mmm... I'm not so sure. In Arrival, the Kryptonite rocks in Lex's safe (the sentinels) glowed green when Lionel got near them.

Nice catch! I didnt even notice that till now.

 

[Triligors]

Is Lionell, Lionell? Or is Lionell, Jor-El? In the scene between ?Lionell? and Lex?

 

[user123456789]

Mmm... I'm not so sure. In Arrival, the Kryptonite rocks in Lex's safe (the sentinels) glowed green when Lionel got near them.

But that's neither here nor there. I'm fairly certain Lionel was referring to Brainiac when he said only "he" could open [the ship].

I too think Lionel was always Jor-El, but wouldn't that mean Jor-El knows that braniac is here on earth and is an imminent danger to clark?

 

[user123456789]

Is Lionell, Lionell? Or is Lionell, Jor-El? In the scene between ?Lionell? and Lex?

I believe Lionel is truly back to normal. No more human manifestations of Jor-El, for now.

 

[Anguissette1979]

I too think Lionel was always Jor-El, but wouldn't that mean Jor-El knows that braniac is here on earth and is an imminent danger to clark?

Either a plot hole or a "gotcha"

 

[Mike_D]

Lio-el

Jor-Nell

....its gonna keep you guessin I bet. I especially liked how Lionel/Jor-el was playing dumb with Lex. You could tell lex was getting aggitated. But seeing how things are going, I wouldnt be suprised if Lex kills off Lionel (not knowing its jor-el of course).

 

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Is Lionell, Lionell? Or is Lionell, Jor-El? In the scene between ?Lionell? and Lex?

I think Jor El is IN Lionel & is controlling him. So I am sure most think Jor El is kinda officially Lionel. But when he needs Krypton info he turns on freaky eyed Lionel. It is soooooooo obvious I think with Lionels reply about being that creative to Lex that IS Jor El & like I said before I soooooo HOPE that they show when the Jonathen & Martha Kent find out who is inside Lionel & controlling him lol


Jonathen - "Jor El I am gonna kick your a$$"

Martha - "Jonathen what are you doing"

Jonathen - "I'm not kicking Lionels a$$ Martha I am kicking Jor El's a$$ so everythings okay"

 

[Carter]

The ratings are fantastic. They broke WB records two weeks in a row for Thursday viewership, and they're *smoking* the competition in the target 18-34 y.o. male demographic.

Awesome, I really think we'll get a couple more seasons

 

[MJZ]

ditto. I actually enjoyed his super-leap more than I would if he had flown. He (Clark) doesn't know how to fly yet, so super-leap would be the next best thing. Their SFX are getting better too.

The last Lana and Clark scene was so well choreographed.. i nearly cried. Slow motion of Lana jumpin to hug Clark. Clark then grasps here as hard as he can (without killin her ofcourse). The wideshot of him standing straight up, holding her nearly 12 inches off the ground was priceless. They then rub noses and she caresses his face. PRICELESS. EXCELLENT DIRECTING.

Yes it was just incredibly well-done. WB tried and failed for years to do a Death of Superman film but leave it to SV to nail it. From beginning to end it was brilliantly conceived.

I loved the "empty tomb" scene in the hospital as well as Clark's reapparance at the Kent Farm. Incredible. And the scene with Lana was awesome. Rock song worked great.

TW/Clark is really starting to develop that otherworldly Superman presence. I love how all those around him are questioning his humanity.

This episode was profoundly deep and the highlight of the entire series thus far, even moreso than the obligatory Reeve episodes.

 

[AgentPat]

I too think Lionel was always Jor-El, but wouldn't that mean Jor-El knows that braniac is here on earth and is an imminent danger to clark?

Yeah, Jor-El knows about Braniac. That was the whole point about rushing Clark to put the stones together last season. But I also think Jor-El is more concerned about the fate of the PLANET with Brainiac running around. Clark is the only one who can stop him, and Brainiac is going to pull quite a few mind games on Clark. And since Clark isn't the brightest bulb on the marquee sometimes (I can say that 'cause I still LOVE Clark! LOL), it's gonna be an on-the-edge-of-your-seat ride.

 

[Triligors]

lol. Yeah, that would be funny.

Lex: What are you doing?
John: That's not your father
Lex: What are you talking about?
John: You can't have my son.
Lionel: He's my son.
Lex looks between the two, then towards Clark
Lex: Brother?

Not, as good as the lines you came up with though

Guess we won't know until later, another is Lionell blind? scenario

 

[user123456789]

Yeah, Jor-El knows about Braniac. That was the whole point about rushing Clark to put the stones together last season. But I also think Jor-El is more concerned about the fate of the PLANET with Brainiac running around. Clark is the only one who can stop him, and Brainiac is going to pull quite a few mind games on Clark. And since Clark isn't the brightest bulb on the marquee sometimes (I can say that 'cause I still LOVE Clark! LOL), it's gonna be an on-the-edge-of-your-seat ride.

Then why would Jor-El let Braniac be Clarks professor? I'm sure by now Jor-El can be completely honest with Clark, especially after everything that has happened.

Surely Braniac knows Clark is Kal-El.

 

[Serene]

Yeah, Jor-El knows about Braniac. That was the whole point about rushing Clark to put the stones together last season. But I also think Jor-El is more concerned about the fate of the PLANET with Brainiac running around. Clark is the only one who can stop him, and Brainiac is going to pull quite a few mind games on Clark. And since Clark isn't the brightest bulb on the marquee sometimes (I can say that 'cause I still LOVE Clark! LOL), it's gonna be an on-the-edge-of-your-seat ride.

I'm kind of glad they are easing into showing us Brainiac.. the suspense is building. Truly, these first three shows have been OTT awesome even without using their Marsters trump card. I'm so impressed and happy with the new directions they are going. Finally, they ARE doing the things everyone wanted to see.

Okay, maybe not everyone.. but an awful lot of guys in the 18-34 range.

And most of us.

 

[dpm07]

Great episode!

I didn't see the part that they showed in the previews for Braniac when he was at the piano, though.

Also, great previews for next week. They even said Aquaman, in the previews which was cool, and he was holding his own against clark in the water in the previews when they were fighting! The way he throws Clark out of the water was intense!

 

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Then why would Jor-El let Braniac be Clarks professor? I'm sure by now Jor-El can be completely honest with Clark, especially after everything that has happened.

Surely Braniac knows Clark is Kal-El.

If you read the Spoilers Braniac is going to tell Clark what REALLY happened & WHY Krypton blew up & Braniac does NOT want the same thing happening to Earth so yes he knows Clark is Kal El. Braniac wants to SAVE the Planet Earth.

 

[Mike_D]

Does anybody else think why people are not questionoing Lex's motives all the time?? Everytime he talks to Lana or chloe, he asks about Clark. Like tonight, it was:

"So you saw aliens? Does Clark Know?" out of nowhere, Lex asks that.

"So, you did your laundry today...does Clark know?"

"A missle almost destroyed Smallville eh? So...what does Clark know?"

And the people that he asks are like "yea he doesnt know anything."

...he might as well where a shirt that says "Does Clark Know?"