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[MJZ]

LOL It's so sad, I'm a 30 year old man wearing a Superman shirt (which ironically enough always happens to be "clean" on Thursday nights) and I'm jumping and screaming like an idiot.

Soldier too, right?

 

[muscaremy]

tho i guess even if welling picked me up (which would be weird cuz im a guy)

it would be odd too cuz im only 5'8"-5'10"

i just never measure myself

 

[Brainiac 8]

So far the season is 3 for 3!

Having to talk to the parents about his relationship, then Chloe walking in.

Clark being shot.

Clark getting his powers back.

Lionol being the physical embodyment of Jor-El.

Lex being EEEVVVIIILLL!

Leaping tall rockets in a single bound!!

Loved this episode!!!Five Thumbs!!!

 

[Carter]

Yeah, this season is awesome so far

 

[Descendant]

This season has just became amazing. I mean they are 3 for 3 so far but that episode was so much more. I never cared for the actual comic storyline of the Death of Superman because it just seemed like they did it to boost sales. But it was great they used it in Smallville, because it totally shows the immortality and the godness of Clark Kent/Superman. The episode was so epic in scope and intimate with characters and the episode just totally blew me away. Keep it up Smallville.

 

[Brainiac 8]

This season has just became amazing. I mean they are 3 for 3 so far but that episode was so much more. I never cared for the actual comic storyline of the Death of Superman because it just seemed like they did it to boost sales. But it was great they used it in Smallville, because it totally shows the immortality and the godness of Clark Kent/Superman. The episode was so epic in scope and intimate with characters and the episode just totally blew me away. Keep it up Smallville.

His death showed his immortality?

 

[OobeDoobBenubi]

I wonder how long we will have to live with the Clark ticked off he has his powers & never should have lost them to begin with guy. I won't be happy till I hear him say "I Love My Powers" or something like that

 

[Brainiac 8]

I wonder how long we will have to live with the Clark ticked off he has his powers & never should have lost them to begin with guy. I won't be happy till I hear him say "I Love My Powers" or something like that

I agree, if this season is going to really be "Superman in training", I'm sure soon we'll will see him fully embrace his abilities. You have to admit, his rocket jump was very Supermany!

 

[tonytr1687]

If anyone has Tivo and is able to watch the scene again, can someone translate the dialogue between Clark and "Jornel" in the FOS. Because I'm in college and my roommate and his friends came in the room and started talking a whole bunch so I missed the lines in that scene. Thanks.

 

[muscaremy]

i taped and am gonna watch again a lil later ill try to remember to write it down

 

[MJZ]

Oh, and I don't care what anyone says, it was a flight.

How convenient was it that they didn't show him re-entering the atmosphere and landing back on the ground. Like he free-falled several hundred thousand feet and landed softly. Riiiiiiiight.

I agree with the theory that he already knows he can fly but his subconcious won't let him because he so desparately wants to be "normal." Those walls are starting to come down, though. He only brings it out in extremely stressful situations like this episode.

I also doubt it'll be the last flight of the season, as they felt the need to end the titles with the shot from Crusade.

Funny, when he returned to the house and was all teary-eyed I half expected him to tell the folks "I flew again..."

 

[LostSon88]

1) Anyone else think the doctor was a b*tch?

2) Was anyone else caught off guard when Clark was shot? I mean it was just so "raw".

Especially compared to the past 4 seasons when it would go into slo-mo mode whenever someone tried to stab, shoot, etc. him. This time when it happened, I couldn't believe it. A classic case of less is more.

 

[darkzombiemutt]

OH MY GAWD! BEST HOUR OF TV EVER!!!!!

Ok, let me add my amazment again. Alright, Smallville has totally hit a fantastic stride, I hope to god they keep it up.

Jor El brought Clark back to life because he never took care of the threat he was warned about. Clark thought it was the 2 Zod disipals, but it wasn't. It's either Brainic or Zod. He lost his powers because he didnt come back at sunset, not because Jor El was done with him. So Clark has to pay the price, or more accurately, Jonathan or Chloe do. Man, Clark got himself into some $#!T.

Jor El said the life force of someone he loves must be sacraficed because his lifeforce was restored. I dont think Jor El realizes how powerful his son actually will be come (or already is). Clark learned he has the power to change destiny, he could actually prevent that death from occuring. (if it isnt Jonathan having a heart attack). So technically, we dont know if someone will actually die.

Anyhow, I was floored by the whole episode, minus the fact that the Sheriff lead the army into the Silo, that was just dumb.

Sage, where are you?!?!? I need your screencaps! Also, you should stop by and chat more often.

 

[OobeDoobBenubi]

I soooooooo can NOT wait for Round 2 with the Krypton guy & chick

 

[Serene]

Oh, and I don't care what anyone says, it was a flight.

I think it was both, flight and super-jump. The swirling FX around him was suspiciously reminiscent of Kal-El's flight, but he did seem to jump more or less straight up and without guided direction. Also, like someone else (maybe Kiki?) pointed out.. he had to hold on to that missile once he caught it or he was going to fall.

I do think he has the innate ability to fly.. but I don't think he's mastered it yet.

 

[Carter]

I really wanted to see him fall back to the ground.
Especially after they showed his tattered clothes

 

[muscaremy]

I really wanted to see him fall back to the ground.
Especially after they showed his tattered clothes

yea man i really wanted to see him fall and hear a huge thud when he hit the ground and also leave a crater.... that would've rocked.... anyhoo off to rewind tape and watch again

 

[tonytr1687]

i taped and am gonna watch again a lil later ill try to remember to write it down

Thanks.

 

[triplet]

I think Jor El is IN Lionel & is controlling him. So I am sure most think Jor El is kinda officially Lionel. But when he needs Krypton info he turns on freaky eyed Lionel. It is soooooooo obvious I think with Lionels reply about being that creative to Lex that IS Jor El & like I said before I soooooo HOPE that they show when the Jonathen & Martha Kent find out who is inside Lionel & controlling him lol


Jonathen - "Jor El I am gonna kick your a$$"

Martha - "Jonathen what are you doing"

Jonathen - "I'm not kicking Lionels a$$ Martha I am kicking Jor El's a$$ so everythings okay"

Pssst.... you can actually say "ASS" in threads now... have been able to for more than a year now...



Just a tip from your friendly neighborhood know it all...

 

[mellyM]

Yeah, have to admit, the Christ metaphors were all there. But that wasn't what made it such a fantastic episode (for me.) I think it was the full circle journey that Clark took in one ep. Plus the writing, the acting, the FX... everything just worked beautifully.

I have a question though. Anybody know why they put Lionel in his full suit and Clark in his typical red and blue in the FOS? Was that supposed to be a dream sequence, or did it actually happen? Clark was wearing a light blue shirt when he was shot, and that was removed on the hospital table. Lionel was wearing general hospital clothing - he was in a padded room after all. So what's with the wardrobe change for the FOS scenes? I'm kinda confused about that.

All I know is that its the same outfit Clark wore in the premiere when he first discovered the FOS, maybe Jor El recreated them for him? He had to have a Superman outfit on, he couldn't make that leap in his jammies

 

[OobeDoobBenubi]

I am watching the scene again right before Clark takes off & I find it funny that he stops his super speed & sees the rocket flying off hes just standing there doing nothing for a few seconds you can just tell hes thinking

"Oh look a rocket that is going to destroy Smallville what am I going to do"
then zooms to it lol

 

[Zing79]

Sweet mother of all that is great about entertainment. That is the best hour of TV I've seen all year. That includes Lost, Veronica Mars, and all the other great dramas.

I've seen the show twice already and enjoyed it as much as I did seeing it the first time.

IF (and I stress if) they can keep this level of writing and entertainment up fans of Smallville will get something far better then a two hour movie.

note** this is not a knock on SR; rather, more of a boast about the show

 

[triplet]

So he had a change of clothing all set aside and waiting for them in the caves? And he physically changed Clark's clothes?

I think we're missing something. At least *I'm* missing something. It's not a big deal - I'm just trying to understand WHY. Clark and Lionel could have easily "beamed" to the FOS as they were. There really was no need to change clothes - nor was there time. When Clark died, the missile was 30 seconds from launch. All that dialog at the FOS and Clark beaming (or running?) back to Kansas happened in 30 seconds? Meh. I don't think so. LOL They both obviously changed since both were wearing the same clothes in the next scene, albeit Clark's were quite tattered.

I dunno. There's something missing in the continuity there, but the episode was soooo fantastic, I'm just gonna ignore it.

mmm... I think the time frames overlapped, there's a movie term for that but I can't for the life of me remember what it is, it increases tension...

Sorta like the enemy ships menacing the Enterprise in Star Trek:TOS that would move further away after the commercial break cliff-hanger, it increases tension.

I don't think Jor-El's talk with Clark happened quite when it appeared to, timeline wise.

 

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Hehe

 

[jaydawg]

I've always thought the best idea for explaining the supes outfit was that it was a suit of his fathers.