Hip White People Using The N-Word: Right Or Wrong?

[JStorm]

That's the only type of humor that matters when it comes to serious issues.

Do I agree with this man?

Yes. . yes, I do.


:wellplayed:

 

[Gilpesh]

Lord of the Rings, amirite????

Empire. Man... Empire.

At least you had the trilogy bit right.

 

[Majic Walrus]

Empire. Man... Empire.

At least you had the trilogy bit right.

Dude. I totally knew that.

 

[Jager X]

Here is my long opinion on the subject. I grew up with the word ***** and negro. Thus, I use it regularly. It is my opinion that if blacks can use the word then so can any other race. I don't care if a white man uses the word ******. As a matter of fact, I have plenty of white friends who use the word and they are really open-minded and respectful to all races and creeds. It is a double standard that I find extremely annoying. It is these same set of blacks that complain about their ancestors being enslaved when they don't even know their family origin. The reason why this is such a hot topic, a sensitive topic, is to basically serve as a means to continue to segregate ourselves. Now, if you feel uncomfortable with the word then that is fine. I am not going to go up to a 60+ year old black person and use the word simply because they are of a time when any association to the word can even lead to death. But as the newer generation, it is completely within our power to strip away the power of racism, but we won't because this seems to be a comfort zone for us. We don't have to struggle like our grandparent or even our parents did to live. This is why I don't celebrate black history month. Blacks do not deserve their own month, but we do deserve to be mentioned in the history books among other races equally. You cannot honor blacks within 28 damn days out of the year. Our accomplishments should be talked about all year round when relevant. But to cut this short, it is sad to see people still allowing themselves to be a prisoner of words.

 

[JStorm]

Here is my long opinion on the subject. I grew up with the word ***** and negro. Thus, I use it regularly. It is my opinion that if blacks can use the word then so can any other race. I don't care if a white man uses the word ******. As a matter of fact, I have plenty of white friends who use the word and they are really open-minded and respectful to all races and creeds. It is a double standard that I find extremely annoying. It is these same set of blacks that complain about their ancestors being enslaved when they don't even know their family origin. The reason why this is such a hot topic, a sensitive topic, is to basically serve as a means to continue to segregate ourselves. Now, if you feel uncomfortable with the word then that is fine. I am not going to go up to a 60+ year old black person and use the word simply because they are of a time when any association to the word can even lead to death. But as the newer generation, it is completely within our power to strip away the power of racism, but we won't because this seems to be a comfort zone for us. We don't have to struggle like our grandparent or even our parents did to live. This is why I don't celebrate black history month. Blacks do not deserve their own month, but we do deserve to be mentioned in the history books among other races equally. You cannot honor blacks within 28 damn days out of the year. Our accomplishments should be talked about all year round when relevant. But to cut this short, it is sad to see people still allowing themselves to be a prisoner of words.

Well spoken and in true form.

I applaud your convection.

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

Wow, this thread like...blew up over night.

I wonder if I should put this topic to a poll?

 

[Majic Walrus]

Here is my long opinion on the subject. I grew up with the word ***** and negro. Thus, I use it regularly. It is my opinion that if blacks can use the word then so can any other race. I don't care if a white man uses the word ******. As a matter of fact, I have plenty of white friends who use the word and they are really open-minded and respectful to all races and creeds. It is a double standard that I find extremely annoying. It is these same set of blacks that complain about their ancestors being enslaved when they don't even know their family origin. The reason why this is such a hot topic, a sensitive topic, is to basically serve as a means to continue to segregate ourselves. Now, if you feel uncomfortable with the word then that is fine. I am not going to go up to a 60+ year old black person and use the word simply because they are of a time when any association to the word can even lead to death. But as the newer generation, it is completely within our power to strip away the power of racism, but we won't because this seems to be a comfort zone for us. We don't have to struggle like our grandparent or even our parents did to live. This is why I don't celebrate black history month. Blacks do not deserve their own month, but we do deserve to be mentioned in the history books among other races equally. You cannot honor blacks within 28 damn days out of the year. Our accomplishments should be talked about all year round when relevant. But to cut this short, it is sad to see people still allowing themselves to be a prisoner of words.

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

Here is my long opinion on the subject. I grew up with the word ***** and negro. Thus, I use it regularly. It is my opinion that if blacks can use the word then so can any other race. I don't care if a white man uses the word ******. As a matter of fact, I have plenty of white friends who use the word and they are really open-minded and respectful to all races and creeds. It is a double standard that I find extremely annoying. It is these same set of blacks that complain about their ancestors being enslaved when they don't even know their family origin. The reason why this is such a hot topic, a sensitive topic, is to basically serve as a means to continue to segregate ourselves. Now, if you feel uncomfortable with the word then that is fine. I am not going to go up to a 60+ year old black person and use the word simply because they are of a time when any association to the word can even lead to death. But as the newer generation, it is completely within our power to strip away the power of racism, but we won't because this seems to be a comfort zone for us. We don't have to struggle like our grandparent or even our parents did to live. This is why I don't celebrate black history month. Blacks do not deserve their own month, but we do deserve to be mentioned in the history books among other races equally. You cannot honor blacks within 28 damn days out of the year. Our accomplishments should be talked about all year round when relevant. But to cut this short, it is sad to see people still allowing themselves to be a prisoner of words.

I like this.

 

[TheDreamMaster]

Here is my long opinion on the subject. I grew up with the word ***** and negro. Thus, I use it regularly. It is my opinion that if blacks can use the word then so can any other race. I don't care if a white man uses the word ******. As a matter of fact, I have plenty of white friends who use the word and they are really open-minded and respectful to all races and creeds. It is a double standard that I find extremely annoying. It is these same set of blacks that complain about their ancestors being enslaved when they don't even know their family origin. The reason why this is such a hot topic, a sensitive topic, is to basically serve as a means to continue to segregate ourselves. Now, if you feel uncomfortable with the word then that is fine. I am not going to go up to a 60+ year old black person and use the word simply because they are of a time when any association to the word can even lead to death. But as the newer generation, it is completely within our power to strip away the power of racism, but we won't because this seems to be a comfort zone for us. We don't have to struggle like our grandparent or even our parents did to live. This is why I don't celebrate black history month. Blacks do not deserve their own month, but we do deserve to be mentioned in the history books among other races equally. You cannot honor blacks within 28 damn days out of the year. Our accomplishments should be talked about all year round when relevant. But to cut this short, it is sad to see people still allowing themselves to be a prisoner of words.

I also agree with this.

 

[mrvlknight21]

Well spoken and in true form.

I applaud your convection.

Convection? Like an oven?

 

[JStorm]

Convection? Like an oven?

It's fast cooking.

 

[AG1973]

Here is my long opinion on the subject. I grew up with the word ***** and negro. Thus, I use it regularly. It is my opinion that if blacks can use the word then so can any other race. I don't care if a white man uses the word ******. As a matter of fact, I have plenty of white friends who use the word and they are really open-minded and respectful to all races and creeds. It is a double standard that I find extremely annoying. It is these same set of blacks that complain about their ancestors being enslaved when they don't even know their family origin. The reason why this is such a hot topic, a sensitive topic, is to basically serve as a means to continue to segregate ourselves. Now, if you feel uncomfortable with the word then that is fine. I am not going to go up to a 60+ year old black person and use the word simply because they are of a time when any association to the word can even lead to death. But as the newer generation, it is completely within our power to strip away the power of racism, but we won't because this seems to be a comfort zone for us. We don't have to struggle like our grandparent or even our parents did to live. This is why I don't celebrate black history month. Blacks do not deserve their own month, but we do deserve to be mentioned in the history books among other races equally. You cannot honor blacks within 28 damn days out of the year. Our accomplishments should be talked about all year round when relevant. But to cut this short, it is sad to see people still allowing themselves to be a prisoner of words.

I am one of those black people that knows of their ancestors. I am the Great Great Grandson of a former slave. I agree with you that we as a people must move forward. But I don't like the word being used but I can tolerate it's use when I consider the source.

Young white people that use the word are trying to be hip-hop or cool with a limited understanding of the imbrued history of the n-word. This limited understanding is a result of the fact that in most High School history books the accomplishments and contributions that have been made by Americans that just happen to be black.

How many people know who Garret A. Morgan was and what he endured because of his complexion without googling or using yahoo search? How about Charles Drew, Elijah McCoy, Dr. Daniel Hale Williams, or Dr. Benjamin Carson among numerous others. The history of this nation is not told in its entirety. So the hurtful incindiary nature of the n-word is not understood by many younger whites and blacks.

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

Young white people that use the word are trying to be hip-hop or cool with a limited understanding of the imbrued history of the n-word.

Meh, I couldn't disagree more.

We are living in a very racially polarized world. Just because the most powerful man on the earth right now is African American doesn't mean that suddenly things are all groovy in the color race. These young white people are fully aware of the history of the n-word in its original incarnation. EVERYONE knows that. It's in our face every day and history--and the media--will never let us forget that. The young white people that use the term have a complete understanding of what they're doing, but their motive is 180 degrees different from what their ancestors intended the term to mean.

They, along with their black peers have completely flipped the meaning. I find it actually somewhat fascinating, because it's like the white and black hip hop generation are trying to use this n***a word "remix" to find a common ground against the racist thinking patterns that originally gave birth to the derrogatory term.

 

[Wylie Times]

Meh, I couldn't disagree more.

We are living in a very racially polarized world. Just because the most powerful man on the earth right now is African American doesn't mean that suddenly things are all groovy in the color race. These young white people are fully aware of the history of the n-word in its original incarnation. EVERYONE knows that. It's in our face every day and history--and the media--will never let us forget that. The young white people that use the term have a complete understanding of what they're doing, but their motive is 180 degrees different from what their ancestors intended the term to mean.

They, along with their black peers have completely flipped the meaning. I find it actually somewhat fascinating, because it's like the white and black hip hop generation are trying to use this n***a word "remix" to find a common ground against the racist thinking patterns that originally gave birth to the derrogatory term.

I don't know if I can fully agree with this simply because black folks have used the word casually and as a term of endearment for a LONG time. It's not a recent thing and exclusive to a couple generations by any means.

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

I don't know if I can fully agree with this simply because black folks have used the word casually and as a term of endearment for a LONG time. It's not a recent thing and exclusive to a couple generations by any means.

I didn't mean that it was a new concept among blacks. What's fairly new is young white people using the word as OFFERED to them by black musical artists in the mainstream media i.e. The Black Eyed Peas...and the subsequent double standard.

 

[B]

Am I the only person in thinking that if a white man/woman walked up to any colored person in the Black Eye Peas & said "Wassup' *****", they'd have ZERO right to take any offence whatsoever.

Now, I'm not that big a big Black Eye Peas fan so I don't know any song lyrics. But I'd be willing to bet my left testical that they spout the word out that often it doesn't have any real context with what the lyric actually says.. unlike say someone like Tupac who often did use the word in his songs, however with his, it had a meaning & had a place in the context with the actual lyric... if that makes sense.

 

[Wylie Times]

I didn't mean that it was a new concept among blacks. What's fairly new is young white people using the word as OFFERED to them by black musical artists in the mainstream media i.e. The Black Eyed Peas...and the subsequent double standard.

That's not really new either. White youth were exposed to and using the word long before now also from hearing the likes of Red Fox, Richard Pryor, more than a few blues singers using the word. The main difference IMO is that the intent of white kids using the word is less questionable and more blacks seem to be ok with it.

 

[Wylie Times]

Am I the only person in thinking that if a white man/woman walked up to any colored person in the Black Eye Peas & said "Wassup' *****", they'd have ZERO right to take any offence whatsoever.

I don't think they would. I don't think most black people would get upset about that depending on HOW it's said. People are smart enough to know when someone means offense and when they don't.

I will say if they asked someone NOT to call them that then the request should be respected.

Now, I'm not that big a big Black Eye Peas fan so I don't know any song lyrics. But I'd be willing to bet my left testical that they spout the word out that often it doesn't have any real context with what the lyric actually says..unlike say someone like Tupac who often did use the word in his songs, however with his, it had a meaning & had a place in the context with the actual lyric... if that makes sense.

I don't agree with that at all. Sometimes Pac would use the word just for the sake of using it.

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

Wylie:

White kids were using the term ni**a in a "Hip" way in the 70s and 80s? I don't recall that...and I was there.

 

[Wylie Times]

Wylie:

White kids were using the term ni**a in a "Hip" way in the 70s and 80s? I don't recall that...and I was there.

Obviously it wasn't nearly as widespread (or acceptable) as it is now but as I said with the popularity of comedians like Richard Pryor and blacksploitation movies using the word.

 

[Majic Walrus]

Richard Pryor was black and stars of 70s Blacksploitation movies... they were black too...

 

[Wylie Times]

Richard Pryor was black and stars of 70s Blacksploitation movies... they were black too...

You don't say.

My point was that both were popular with white audiences in almost the same way that Hip Hop is today. So you had some white folks trying to emulate what they saw and heard from both. Cultural appropriation isn't exactly a new thing .