History Channel's 'Vikings'

[Kahran Ramsus]

I guess they thought Sigurd was the most expendable of the brothers. Ubba was involved with the East Anglia stuff, Bjorn is a main character in the show, and Halfdan/Hvitserk was probably the most important of all of them with regards to English and Irish history (although it seems like Ivar will take much of his role in the show).

 

[BestGirl]

If you had told me prior to this episode that Athelwulf would live and Helga, her adopted daughter, and Sigurd would die I wouldn't've believed you. I'm glad it worked out that way, though I can't figure out what the point of Helga's subplot was.

If Ecbert had to die it was good that he went out that way: a manipulative bastard to the end.

The battle scene was stupendous. Really intense. Someone out to win an award for it.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

If you had told me prior to this episode that Athelwulf would live and Helga, her adopted daughter, and Sigurd would die I wouldn't've believed you.

Same. I knew Athelwulf should survive according to history, but it wouldn't be the first time the show did something different. Remember Odo?

Overall, Season 4 Part 2 (although I don't know why they didn't just call it Season 5 as it really feels like its own thing) is up there with Season 3 as my favorites so far.

 

[James]

I'm not at all familiar with St. Heahmund, but based purely on the way the show set him up it's clear he's going to be trouble. At first I thought they'd done another big time jump, and it was was Alfred performing the funeral. Speaking of funerals, why wasn't Helga given a wee boat to float away and be burned? Is it a kind of 'when in Rome' type deal?

Alexander Ludwig is definitely channeling Travis Fimmel more and more. I think it must be an extremely difficult thing for any TV show to kill off it's lead character and continue on- there's certainly not a very successful history of it- but Vikings seems to have done it brilliantly. I'm as invested in the show as I've ever been.

I'm sad to see the season end and have to wait for season 5, but it'll be worth it. Vikings is without a doubt one of the best shows on TV right now, and that's saying a lot given the competition.

The Vikings burning all those manuscripts was a tragedy. Ragnar probably would of saw the value in acquiring knowledge from them.

I thought so too! When Floki was looking at the script he had in hand, I really thought he was going to save some. I even though he was giving the script to the kid at first for safe keeping. But then he started to torch them all too! Nards.

I'm glad it worked out that way, though I can't figure out what the point of Helga's subplot was.

I can't figure that either. If the girl had lived and formed more of a bond with Floki moving forward, it would make sense. They'd shown some mutual respect for each other previously, and her character could have been developed further. But killing off both Helga and the girl seems to have made the entire venture pointless.

 

[BestGirl]

I guess they just wanted someone to kill Helga. Still, the girl could've lived beyond that and become her own interesting character.

What was written on Heahmund's sword at the end?

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

I guess they just wanted someone to kill Helga. Still, the girl could've lived beyond that and become her own interesting character.

What was written on Heahmund's sword at the end?

Ananyzapata.

I too thought it was a big time skip at first and that it was perhaps Athelwulf's or Athelred's funeral.

 

[Marvolo]

I'm not at all familiar with St. Heahmund, but based purely on the way the show set him up it's clear he's going to be trouble. At first I thought they'd done another big time jump, and it was was Alfred performing the funeral. Speaking of funerals, why wasn't Helga given a wee boat to float away and be burned? Is it a kind of 'when in Rome' type deal?

Alexander Ludwig is definitely channeling Travis Fimmel more and more. I think it must be an extremely difficult thing for any TV show to kill off it's lead character and continue on- there's certainly not a very successful history of it- but Vikings seems to have done it brilliantly. I'm as invested in the show as I've ever been.

I'm sad to see the season end and have to wait for season 5, but it'll be worth it. Vikings is without a doubt one of the best shows on TV right now, and that's saying a lot given the competition.



I thought so too! When Floki was looking at the script he had in hand, I really thought he was going to save some. I even though he was giving the script to the kid at first for safe keeping. But then he started to torch them all too! Nards.



I can't figure that either. If the girl had lived and formed more of a bond with Floki moving forward, it would make sense. They'd shown some mutual respect for each other previously, and her character could have been developed further. But killing off both Helga and the girl seems to have made the entire venture pointless.

My guess is they were trying to make the viewers empathize with Helga more, and trying to give her something to do before they killed her. Kid was a plot device just like Ragnar's Asian slave was.

 

[Vartha]

Slight update, needs a couple more items

 

[BestGirl]

My guess is they were trying to make the viewers empathize with Helga more, and trying to give her something to do before they killed her. Kid was a plot device just like Ragnar's Asian slave was.

The Chinese girl was another weirdly truncated character. She was given a backstory with the pirates kidnapping her and it felt like we were in for a plot that would result in us learning her true identity but then she just died. Maybe the writers are deliberately pulling the rug out from under the viewers' feet but I find it strange.

 

[Golgo-13]

The deal wasn't valid anyhow, Egbert wasn't really king and had no authority. It was just a trick.

Indeed.

Cool finale.

Lots of set up for the next season. I wonder if we've seen the last of Rollo, seeing as the actor that plays him is now the lead in Taken…?

 

[Loki882]

I imagine that he might still pop up from time to time. It just won't be nearly as much as before for obvious reasons.

And yeah, it's delightfully ironic that Ragnar and Ecbert's deaths paralleled each other so much.

 

[James]

I wouldn't worry too much about the Rollo actor's other commitment, that's probably going to get canned pretty quick. But I do feel like his end of the story could be comfortably over now anyway, with Ragnar gone and him being king of Normandy. Unless they monkey with history, that's pretty well the end of Rollo's journey I think.

(not that I'm any kind of expert!)

 

[Gort Baringa]

The last episode in Australia had the death of Ragnar Lothbrok.

Being a Christian myself, I liked that Ragnar told Ecbert and Alfred that the cross given to him by Athelstan had given him great comfort and that Athelstan had returned to his former religion. Ecbert seemed greatly pleased at hearing this!

It seemed to me that the prayer of King Aelle (from one of the psalms?) could have been meant as a plea to God from RAGNAR and not Aelle. Aelle's prayer wasn't getting above the ceilling of the castle, but the prayer could be interpreted as Ragnar's final plea to God ... not the speech he gave when he was being executed, which was completely intended to frighten the Anglo Saxons that were hearing it.

 

[Forever Rud]

Here's a great examination of the 'Berserkers' of Viking legend and what might have been the reason behind their crazed rages.

https://skeptoid.com/episodes/4557

It even references Harald Fairhair, the older of the two crazy brothers who sailed in to Kattegat in Season 4 to accompany Ragnar in assaulting Paris.

 

[Vartha]

Update on the Hall. The design in the window took forever!

 

[Gort Baringa]

Lagertha is fearing an assassination by a son of Ragnar Lothbrok.

Does any believe that the son is not one of Aslaug's but Magnus who Ragnar conceived with the queen of Mercia?

 

[Roose Bolton]

Magnus isn't Ragnar's son.

 

[James]

Indeed, by Ragnar's own admission he and Kwenthrith never had sex.

 

[Golgo-13]

Lagertha is fearing an assassination by a son of Ragnar Lothbrok.

Does any believe that the son is not one of Aslaug's but Magnus who Ragnar conceived with the queen of Mercia?

Wouldn't it be a twist if Bjorn is the one who kills her; either by accident, or over that chick they're both sleeping with..?

 

[Marvolo]

Indeed, by Ragnar's own admission he and Kwenthrith never had sex.

"All she ever did was piss on me."

 

[Gort Baringa]

I am kinda inclined to believe that Ragnar told them that he was not the father of Magnus to protect him.

At any rate, in the 1952 film The Vikings, Ragnar rapes the English queen and Eric played by Tony Curtis becomes his son.

 

[Monsieur Xavier]

I'm re-watching Vikings S04, in EP09, the little girl Siggy was found dead, someone can remind me who she was ?

 

[BestGirl]

I think Bjorn had a daughter named Siggy who died. Is that who you're referring to?

 

[Monsieur Xavier]

I don't know, in the previous episode when Bjorn reclaimed his beloved he left her child in Lagertha's care but the Siggy girl died in Kategart. I can't make up who she was.

 

[StarLord]

Cinematography is beautiful.

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