History Channel's 'Vikings'

[squeekness]

Ill be surprised if he isn't fired after one season.

Why? Is he hard to work with?

 

[chamber-music]

Lagertha ain't nothing to mess with. Nice day for a Red Wedding!

I bet kalf was thinking "so worth it" when he was dying

Someone needs to check Ivar for the mark of the beast. That kid gives me future evil vibes.

I'm ok with Rollo not being a main character anymore. (Clive Standen is off to star in the Taken prequel series). I imagine the whole France plot line will be wrapped up this season.

Therese being Roland's sister is a shocker if true. I was getting a lovers vibe off the two of them. Perhaps they have some Lannister twins incest thing going on.

Linus Roach is underrated. Roach is killing it as King Ecbert.

 

[Teelie]

Lagertha is one of the few reasons I still watch Vikings. Not watched last night's episode yet but sounds good. Also amazing they are doing a 20 episodes season 5 but it also sounds like the end of the road too.

 

[Monsieur Xavier]

Lagertha was awesome as always, even Kalf knew it in that scene.

"Linus Roach is underrated. Roach is killing it as King Ecbert"

chamber-music speaks the truth.

 

[BestGirl]

So I take Bjorn didn't know that the berserker was sent by Erlandur. He seemed to do a double-take after Torvi told him about the ring.

That Ivar scene was unexpected. Ragnar's gonna have to pay off that family.

Therese being Roland's sister is a shocker if true. I was getting a lovers vibe off the two of them. Perhaps they have some Lannister twins incest thing going on.

Same. Have we seen the two of them being amorous, or have they just been half naked in one another's presences?

 

[Golgo-13]

So I take Bjorn didn't know that the berserker was sent by Erlandur. He seemed to do a double-take after Torvi told him about the ring.

Yeah, i assumed he knew.

 

[squeekness]

I figured that was why he grabbed Torvi in the first place, as a kind of revenge for the berserker.

 

[Golgo-13]

Me too.

 

[James]

Right, it would have been a bit random for him to go grab Torvi if he didn't know where the Berserker had come from. He still seemed surprised about who the ring belonged to though, which is a bit confusing.

 

[BestGirl]

Maybe he decided to grab Torvi because he decided life was too short to live without her after surviving the attempt on his life.

 

[Drz]

Why? Is he hard to work with?

He's had substance issues, especially with alcohol.

But he'll feel right at home in Ireland!

 

[Monsieur Xavier]

IMHO :
- Bjorn knows but like his father he doesn't act impetuously in this kind of event and he also needs proofs.
- I think "King counselor and his sister" may have an unhealthy relationship if not incestuous.

 

[Golgo-13]

Renewed for Season 5!

 

[Teelie]

We already know. That was discussed a few days ago.

 

[James]

It's interesting that Ragnar's outgrown his ambition. My interpretation of his vision was a longing for the simple life he was once had -thoughts? In any case it was neat seeing the old actors show up briefly.

 

[Drz]

Yeah he earn's for simpler's time.

This show is really building up for a time jump, having Ragner take his 2 sons with him builds up their antagonist relationship to Harald, Alfred is going to Rome, Ivar has so close ties to his mother.

This is all leading up to a time jump.

 

[chamber-music]

Ivar continues to creep me out. Alfred the great begins!

 

[BestGirl]

^Yeah, Ivar really is creepy. I hope this show continues on after Ragnar inevitably dies so we can see his kids all grown up. I want to know how Ivar turns out.

I'll give this shoe credit that it doesn't shy away from how awful the Vikings could be. Yet we root for them anyway.

 

[James]

I'll give this shoe credit that it doesn't shy away from how awful the Vikings could be. Yet we root for them anyway.

It's interesting, isn't it? I've always been fascinated by this. The Shield is a great example -the lead character, Vic Mackey is a total bastard, yet for the majority of the show the audience is behind him and wanting all the characters who oppose him (even the good and noble ones) to lose. Hannibal Lecter is another one I often cite for this sort of thing too, he kills people (rude though they may be) yet in Silence of The Lambs and other incarnations we're hoping he gets away to kill again.

The vikings are, by their very nature, complete nightmares, but I find myself wanting to see them raid innocent villagers like those villagers did anything wrong. Black Sails works this way too -I honestly don't think there's a single traditionally 'good' character in that entire show, but we're constantly rooting for one character or another -sometimes, arguably, even the worst of the lot.

 

[chamber-music]

I think networks have become more comfortable creating shows about characters that would ordinarily be villains. Vikings and black sails both revolve around characters that aren't particularly good people.

 

[James]

Shows like The Sopranos and The Shield, and more recently Breaking Bad, helped to pave the way for the success of anti-heroes in television. It's almost to the point where you'd be hard pressed to find a TV hero who's good and noble through and through.

 

[MurkeNyou]

The vikings are, by their very nature, complete nightmares, but I find myself wanting to see them raid innocent villagers like those villagers did anything wrong. Black Sails works this way too -I honestly don't think there's a single traditionally 'good' character in that entire show, but we're constantly rooting for one character or another -sometimes, arguably, even the worst of the lot.

Actually, I think these "Bad guy you root for" shows depict the world as shades and contrasts of gray. No one is white hats/ black hats. You see both sides have noble heroes and villains that will do whatever it takes to achieve their goals. These are my favorite kind of shows, allows very strong, rich characters. Every cop is a criminal, every sinner a saint.

 

[James]

Actually, I think these "Bad guy you root for" shows depict the world as shades and contrasts of gray. No one is white hats/ black hats. You see both sides have noble heroes and villains that will do whatever it takes to achieve their goals. These are my favorite kind of shows, allows very strong, rich characters. Every cop is a criminal, every sinner a saint.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It seems to be more the rule rather than the exception now, where as 10 or so years ago it was the other way around.

 

[Marvolo]

Why? Is he hard to work with?

He is a notorious drunk and substance abuser. He caused lots of trouble on Showtime's Tudors, and NBC had to withhold his paychecks when he worked on Dracula to curb his drinking, and he was kept on strict probation. It didn't work he still got drunk and caused trouble. I'm surprised any studio or network will hire him.

 

[squeekness]

He is a notorious drunk and substance abuser. He caused lots of trouble on Showtime's Tudors, and NBC had to withhold his paychecks when he worked on Dracula to curb his drinking, and he was kept on strict probation. It didn't work he still got drunk and caused trouble. I'm surprised any studio or network will hire him.

That's a shame, he's a decent enough actor.