The Last Jedi How do folks feel about Rian Johnson as a Star Wars storyteller?

Battlestar Galactica did it well. Jump then you had the timer of 30 minutes or so till the cylons would turn up. Each jump reduced their fuel supplies and they had to come up with a plan. Tic toc.
This didn't seem to have that tense countdown. Going to a casino?

I know why they did it. Lando was meant to be shoehorned in but the actor wasn't up to it.

Where was it stated Williams, who has been involved with REBELS as Lando, "wasn't up to it"? This was publicly stated where? Not shade, genuinely interested if true.
 
Where was it stated Williams, who has been involved with REBELS as Lando, "wasn't up to it"? This was publicly stated where? Not shade, genuinely interested if true.

I know was probably wrong to say (sorry drunk). I heard a rumour is more accurate on one of the professional youtube vids. Collider or one of them.
Does fit though as soon as they got there i was expecting him to turn up.
Said that they brought him in but he had lost his mojo and decided against it.
 
Rian Johnson was a horrible choice - director, writer, and screen writer. Keep him away from all further Star Wars.

IGNORES PLOT / BREAKS PLOT
- Spaceballs run out of gas plot device
- Breaks the universe w/ kamikaze light speed (why isn't this done all the time?!)
- Luke cut himself off from the force and went there to die, BUT WEARS JEDI ROBES!
- Luke changes from relatively clean looking Jedi in the start, to hobo, back to Jedi robes at the end.
- No follow ups on TFA (Snoke, Rey Parents, etc)
- Chewie is now... a vegetarian?
- Luke is alone on the island. Except for the caretakers who come out of nowhere.
- We're going to convince Luke, and we brought his old friend Chewie, but Chewie is in the movie for 5 minutes.
- Hot heads that sacrifice themselves, bad. Fine - I'll concede that moral point. But then Holdo does.. the exact same thing. Then Finn tries to do it too, and gets stopped (while their base explodes in the background). Inconsistent.
- Luke says Kylo ran off with students, presumably Knights of Ren, but we never see or hear from them again. Inconsistent.

Artistic style--- takes every single serious moment and undercuts it with a bad joke or slapstick comedy. Luke could have looked longingly at R2 playing the original clip, but again - makes a joke that seemingly comes from our universe.

Rey has a nice moment training w/o Luke, but it is undercut by the slapstick comedy of falling rock on the nuns.

One fan service item put in was totally messed up -- fans like Blue Milk, so let's show where it really comes from, a humanoid walrus who looks at you longingly to come milk it's near humanoid nipples. Director to Luke: Now look crazy at Rey, like how much you love milking this thing. Director to CG artist: now have the walrus-human look at Rey with come hither motions. Director to Rey: Act like you think the audience would.

Action choices:
- Bombs falling in ... zero gravity. Ugh.
- ROTJ replay, and then guard fight, but no main light saber fight.
- Lightspeed kamikaze, presumably the universe's new best weapon. Why do un-manned xwings not do this constantly to destroy everything. It breaks the universe.
- Salt speeders, weird non-flying things that need an extra mechanism just for the red dust show.
- Leia using the force - great. Using the force for marry poppin flying, bad. Just pick another plot/action mechanic for her to save the day.

Not understanding the Lore at all.
- Jedi/Sith and grey area - Grey Jedi -- nope, ignored.
- Jedi should die - nope, we're back baby - I'm not the last Jedi, Rey is! So 95% of Luke's motivation becomes pointless in his own movie.
- Allusion to Rule of 2 in Sith (harkening back to the good ole Bane book), but not explored.
- Luke says laser sword.
- Is this all of the First Order ships? Why can another one not intercept the rebels, and come and go, just like Finn and Rose come and go?
- How big is the First Order and Rebels anyway? We've lost all sense of scale.
- Snoke is a thousand years old with presumably more powers than Palpatine, and he gets 5 minutes before being cut.

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On point with everything!
 
I can't believe they signed off on this stuff.

The other people who don't like the movie at least discuss why they don't like it.....all you are doing is acting like a troll.
 
He made a top 3 Star Wars movie and I hope he continues to work within the universe.
 
Where was it stated Williams, who has been involved with REBELS as Lando, "wasn't up to it"? This was publicly stated where? Not shade, genuinely interested if true.

There was an article on newsarama recently on how they considered using Lando but nixed the idea. Williams may not have even been involved or aware.
 
There was an article on newsarama recently on how they considered using Lando but nixed the idea. Williams may not have even been involved or aware.

Before the movie came out, Johnson and a bunch of the actors were on the JIMMY KIMMEL SHOW.....at one point he asked something about if Williams had contacted them about wanting to be in the new trilogy....Johnson said he hadn't heard anything about it if he had....so Kimmel said "He's probably sitting at home waiting for a call....get on the phone now!"....then they went off in another direction of jokes and it wasn't mentioned again.
 
There was an article on newsarama recently on how they considered using Lando but nixed the idea. Williams may not have even been involved or aware.

He said he briefly thought of Lando being in the DJ role, but couldn't seriously see Lando betraying everyone like that.
 
Why would they even consider putting Lando in that role?
 
With Lando you could have basically had him return in the wake of Han's death to console Leia , Chewie, and the rest of group.

As one of Han's oldest friends, he could very well have been a godfather to Kylo or at least a father figure of some sorts in the past.

That's just one example but there are lots of dynamics with him they could have played with.

Then again, they may have wanted to kill him off like Han and Luke.

He wasn't needed for the new films, but they definitely could have fit into the story if need be.
 
They better bring back Lando for Episode 9

It would be a great way to entice fans that were disappointed with TLJ to watch
 
They better bring back Lando for Episode 9

It would be a great way to entice fans that were disappointed with TLJ to watch

I hope they don't. If they want to advance the SW film series, they need to get away from fanservice like this immediately.
 
I'd like to see some focus on Finn of importance. I actually feel he could be more interesting as an ex-storm trooper turned Jedi for a story. Rey is too powerful and doesn't need much training to be perfect at everything, kind of making her less interesting.
 
Finn's adventures have been the weakest parts of these films so I have no desire to see more of him. Personally I would have killed him off in his suicide run in TLJ.
 
With Lando you could have basically had him return in the wake of Han's death to console Leia , Chewie, and the rest of group.

As one of Han's oldest friends, he could very well have been a godfather to Kylo or at least a father figure of some sorts in the past.

That's just one example but there are lots of dynamics with him they could have played with.

Then again, they may have wanted to kill him off like Han and Luke.

He wasn't needed for the new films, but they definitely could have fit into the story if need be.

Yes, they could've used him somewhere. I don't buy this nonsense of "he wasn't up to it". He still has some acting in him, even if he has a sitting part. Hell, they probably had to prop Carrie up for most of her scenes, so they could've put Billy/Lando in a hover chair or something.
 
Finn's adventures have been the weakest parts of these films so I have no desire to see more of him. Personally I would have killed him off in his suicide run in TLJ.

That entire space horse saving scene just made me cringe.....ugghh. That was so "not Star Wars" to me.
 
Knights of Ren, constipated and didn't show

LOLOL

Digestive tract issues aside, you're assuming the Knights of Ren seen in TFA was a vision of the past and not a vision of the future...
 
That entire space horse saving scene just made me cringe.....ugghh. That was so "not Star Wars" to me.

That's a shame. Characters helping the helpless is about as Star Wars as it gets to me.
 

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