Superman Returns How Do You Feel About Singer NOW Thread

[Hannibal King]

Character... I believe it was Mickey Mouse. (But a report is a report, they don't really mean anything)

 

[P. Cushing]

This is how I interpret the vague history thing:
If you've seen the first two Donner movies or the Reeves origin or the STAS origin or read his origin in the comics, you'll be fine watching this movie. All the vaguie history means is that they're not going to tell the origin for the umpteenth time. All you need to know is that Superman's been around for a bit and then he ****ed off. He's not remaking Superman 3. He appears to be doing a mixture of pre and post crisis elements.

 

[Sverdlovski]

Oprah.

THAT was soooooo wrong.....

 

[johnsonuk]

This is how I interpret the vague history thing:
If you've seen the first two Donner movies or the Reeves origin or the STAS origin or read his origin in the comics, you'll be fine watching this movie. All the vaguie history means is that they're not going to tell the origin for the umpteenth time. All you need to know is that Superman's been around for a bit and then he ****ed off. He's not remaking Superman 3. He appears to be doing a mixture of pre and post crisis elements.

spacey said(i think) if you have never seen any of those films befour it does not matter as this film will stand on it own.

 

[Sverdlovski]

Singer already said that, but some people just forgot it...

 

[johnsonuk]

Singer already said that, but some people just forgot it...

i knew someone did

 

[Sverdlovski]

Spacey said this film stands on its own, Singer never said this is going to be a sequel, that you have to watch the earlier movies... he said that everybody has a conception of who is Superman, a vague memory (ha!) if you wish... you know, he flies, bullets bounce of him ect.

 

[DIRECTOR]

i'm just realizing something that i hadn't before.....

Finding out that Singer casted Kal Penn as Riley, Lex Luthor's lead henchman, is showing how Singer is going to portray Lex Luthor. I think he is going the Gene Hackman's Lex way, because i see how Kal Penn (who will be eventually be portrayed as a comical character in the film), will essence make Lex Luthor a campy character as well. Now i'm getting worried because i don't think Lex Luthor isn't going to be the ruthless and manipulate business man that we grown to love in Micheal Rosenbaum's portrayal in Smallville, it's enivitable. And i don't think awaiting to read the script can tell us what we already know that Lex Luthor will be a campy character

 

[P. Cushing]

i'm just realizing something that i hadn't before.....

Finding out that Singer casted Kal Penn as Riley, Lex Luthor's lead henchman, is showing how Singer is going to portray Lex Luthor. I think he is going the Gene Hackman's Lex way, because i see how Kal Penn (who will be eventually be portrayed as a comical character in the film), will essence make Lex Luthor a campy character as well. Now i'm getting worried because i don't think Lex Luthor isn't going to be the ruthless and manipulate business man that we grown to love in Micheal Rosenbaum's portrayal in Smallville, it's enivitable. And i don't think awaiting to read the script can tell us what we already know that Lex Luthor will be a campy character

Luthor is going to be a ruthless businessman and Kal Penn is playing a scientist in Luthor's employ. He's not playing Otis and Spacey isn't doing a warmed over Hackman impression.

 

[Alonsovich]

i'm just realizing something that i hadn't before.....

Finding out that Singer casted Kal Penn as Riley, Lex Luthor's lead henchman, is showing how Singer is going to portray Lex Luthor. I think he is going the Gene Hackman's Lex way, because i see how Kal Penn (who will be eventually be portrayed as a comical character in the film), will essence make Lex Luthor a campy character as well. Now i'm getting worried because i don't think Lex Luthor isn't going to be the ruthless and manipulate business man that we grown to love in Micheal Rosenbaum's portrayal in Smallville, it's enivitable. And i don't think awaiting to read the script can tell us what we already know that Lex Luthor will be a campy character

I have another bad feeling with Penn's character... remember Peters' fixation with having a gay robot in Superman Lives or a gay Jimmy in JJ Abrams' Superman? Well... watch out for Penn's character, because with Peters on board I think the possibility of getting a gay Luthor henchman is more than possible.

 

[superfever]

wonder me... is gay such marketable in movie box office?

btw, your sig explains excellently.

 

[DIRECTOR]

Luthor is going to be a ruthless businessman and Kal Penn is playing a scientist in Luthor's employ. He's not playing Otis and Spacey isn't doing a warmed over Hackman impression.

but scientist is extremely different from LEAD HENCHMAN. I would be happy with the scientist route

edit: PLUS, WHERE THE HELL DID U HEAR THAT FROM?????

 

[The Sage]

i'm just realizing something that i hadn't before.....

Finding out that Singer casted Kal Penn as Riley, Lex Luthor's lead henchman, is showing how Singer is going to portray Lex Luthor. I think he is going the Gene Hackman's Lex way, because i see how Kal Penn (who will be eventually be portrayed as a comical character in the film), will essence make Lex Luthor a campy character as well. Now i'm getting worried because i don't think Lex Luthor isn't going to be the ruthless and manipulate business man that we grown to love in Micheal Rosenbaum's portrayal in Smallville, it's enivitable. And i don't think awaiting to read the script can tell us what we already know that Lex Luthor will be a campy character

There's no way Penn can be playing another Otis considering they said a genius henchmen under Luthor. Otis wasn't a genius. Penn must be playing a scientist.

To add, MR's Lex Luthor is nowhere near the true ruthless Lex Luthor. He's not even a bad guy on the show. No, the best interpretation of the true ruthless Lex Luthor outside of comics is Superman TAS.

 

[Mentok]

HENCHMAN

Didnt singer say in an interview that THAT word should never be used?

 

[Hannibal King]

Yeah, its Henchperson now...

Thats not a joke, its the sad truth.

 

[DIRECTOR]

There's no way Penn can be playing another Otis considering they said a genius henchmen under Luthor. Otis wasn't a genius. Penn must be playing a scientist.

To add, MR's Lex Luthor is nowhere near the true ruthless Lex Luthor. He's not even a bad guy on the show. No, the best interpretation of the true ruthless Lex Luthor outside of comics is Superman TAS.

well i don't mean MR's lex luthor is all the way ruthless, since Lex is not truly evil yet in the show. I'm just saying that is how Lex Luthor should be, and worse, i can really see Kevin Spacey doing that, hope Singer don't ruin that. Again, this whole continuation is worrying me with the portrayl of Lex

 

[Pickle-El]

what doesn't worry you about this film?

 

[The Sage]

well i don't mean MR's lex luthor is all the way ruthless, since Lex is not truly evil yet in the show. I'm just saying that is how Lex Luthor should be, and worse, i can really see Kevin Spacey doing that, hope Singer don't ruin that. Again, this whole continuation is worrying me with the portrayl of Lex

It's one of the many things Lex should be but there are other layers to him.

 

[AgentPat]

what doesn't worry you about this film?

The flying scenes using that crane contraption they created. My gut instinct is, they'll be beautifully done.

 

[DIRECTOR]

what doesn't worry you about this film?

- The Acting by all the actors
- The Music
- Action sequences
- The flying scenes (not to worried about that since they have a good team working on that already)
- The Ending leading to a possible sequal
- Superman's Costume, including Lois and Lex's wardrobes
- the whole look of the film (camera positioning, locations (Kent Farm), the color tone of the film (hopefully red and blue will stand out more)

I'm not like some people here who are really worried and already debunked their hopes for this film because it's not going their way.

All i'm worried about is the continuation that Singer is taking with the film, that is all. Singer needs to be more specific about his intentions. His audio interview before, he said that this movie will be like the first Batman film, which is great, i understood that. That is fine with me, we don't need an origin story, we already have that with Smallville (even though it's all skrewy and mismatched). But, it's the word "continuation" thing that i keep hearing, especially from actress portraying Martha Kent.

Continuation could mean:
- Lois and Superman/Clark kent will never be together
- Lex Luthor wont' be evil enough and more of a comical character like Gene Hackmans'
- Pa Kent is dead (which is already confirmed and i'm still pissed about)
- Clark Kent will act dorky in the Daily Planet and not be himself

That is another thing, in Smallville, they are doing a good job at showing Clark Kent as Clark Kent. Clark Kent is the man that is afraid of every step he makes because he is hiding his powers, so he makes up lies, stumbles, and sometimes stutter. When he turns in to Superman, he is able to express his powers, and use his powers for good. In Superman TM, I didn't like Clark Kent's character because I think Clark Kent should have the same personality that Tom Welling has in Smallville.

But i'm not going through this again. I'm just saying with Singer's continuation thingy, we can assume that Clark Kent won't be the guy that we see in SMallville and "Lois & Clark", but the dorky Clark.

I WANT LOIS TO FALL IN LOVE WITH CLARK DAMMIT, after she falls for Superman as well of course

I dont' think many people will read this whole post, oh well.....just my two cents

 

[Mentok]

It's one of the many things Lex should be but there are other layers to him.

He's not a generic bad guy.

He is complex.












And he kicks ass....

 

[BlueTights]

The flying scenes using that crane contraption they created. My gut instinct is, they'll be beautifully done.

Pat, you're nice and all most of the time, but it really amazes me that you have zero confidence in Singer as a Director and Chris Lee as a Producer and their ability to make good films.

 

[BlueTights]

well i don't mean MR's lex luthor is all the way ruthless, since Lex is not truly evil yet in the show. I'm just saying that is how Lex Luthor should be, and worse, i can really see Kevin Spacey doing that, hope Singer don't ruin that. Again, this whole continuation is worrying me with the portrayl of Lex

quit worrying about Lex... or any of the characters portrayal. Singer's a big Superman fan... this movie is a passion for him, and all those involved. Not a paycheck. Passion doesn't come from something you have no interest in at all. Passion indicates a love for the material, a love for the material indicates that he's got every intention of treating it right.

 

[The Sage]

Pat, you're nice and all most of the time, but it really amazes me that you have zero confidence in Singer as a Director and Chris Lee as a Producer and their ability to make good films.

She had confidence six months ago though.

 

[green]

Pat, you're nice and all most of the time, but it really amazes me that you have zero confidence in Singer as a Director and Chris Lee as a Producer and their ability to make good films.

She's got her boxsets of Smallville to watch over and over.........