I'm Old Greg
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Man I hate how the ultra-beastial, gigantic, slobbering-tongue-and-tendrils-constantly-wriggling-everywhere Venom has kind of become the standard, t he go-to everyone thinks of when they think "Venom".
The original McFarlane look is so much scarier & cool. Big, but human-size-big. Hemsworth size, without the gigantic head-splits-in-half jaw and mutant-Gene-Simmons tongue.
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But I mean, as far as the other more current take on Venom goes, the movie design seems fine. *Shrugs* Faithful to this interpretation of it, for sure.
The design is the least of this movie's problems.
Other than the infinitely repeated "It's not officially connected to the MCU / Spider-man isn't in the origin" what are the plethora of this movie's problems?
Not saying it's going to be great, but:
-Great director
-Great cinematographer
-Great composer
-Great lead actor
-Great lead actress
-Great entire overall cast
-Great character design/execution
-Great first official trailer (hard to debate, it was generally extremely well received)
If it's just the first two tired complaints again (which I definitely do understand, but at some point people need to accept it or move on), it's hard to say this movie has a ton of problems. I'm not saying it will be, but this movie definitely has a chance to be awesome if people will just chill out about the same old few things, take off their (rightfully earned) MCU glasses, and just see what this has to offer. There will be plenty of opportunities to crush and destroy this movie/franchise if it ends up garbage
I found the trailer to be largely mediocre. The last shot of Venom is good, but the fact that it spent most of the time showing us Tom Hardy fighting people with flailing tendrils and flying through the air on a motorcycle..... meh. Not a great trailer in my opinion and I'm not sure where you're getting the idea that it was extremely well-received. I'm not saying that most people agree with me, but I didn't see it exactly catch the internet on fire.
Not to mention that, as a huge Spider-man fan, it's a pretty huge problem that Spider-man is apparently not a part of this origin. I can't just easily brush that off. If it ends up being a great movie I can maybe come to terms with it but at the moment..... I can't say I'm on board.
Other than the infinitely repeated "It's not officially connected to the MCU / Spider-man isn't in the origin" what are the plethora of this movie's problems?
Not saying it's going to be great, but:
-Great director
-Great cinematographer
-Great composer
-Great lead actor
-Great lead actress
-Great entire overall cast
-Great character design/execution
-Great first official trailer (hard to debate, it was generally extremely well received)
If it's just the first two tired complaints again (which I definitely do understand, but at some point people need to accept it or move on), it's hard to say this movie has a ton of problems. I'm not saying it will be, but this movie definitely has a chance to be awesome if people will just chill out about the same old few things, take off their (rightfully earned) MCU glasses, and just see what this has to offer. There will be plenty of opportunities to crush and destroy this movie/franchise if it ends up garbage
Oy vey. Yes, please roll your eyes at me. So productive.
The criticisms of this film not connecting to Spider-Man or the MCU are valid. On top of that, as previous posters in the thread mentioned, Avi Arad and Matt Tolmach are producing, which is a bad sign. You can have a good cast, but that has nothing to do with the movie being good or not.
Avi arad pushed for venom in spiderman 3 and resulted in a bad movie, also was a producer for the amazing franchise. So anything done by him should be considered so so. Like I said. Venom looks amazing but Im still on edge. I agree with people who dont just fall for it right away just cause they showed a couple seconds of venom.
Uh, just like you're post was productive?
But seriously, Spider-man is on loan from Sony to Marvel. I don't know why people are so surprised that this Venom movie isn't right out of the gate 100% connected to the MCU? It could still happen down the line if it ends up successful (Sony still owns Spider-man and Marvel would love to bring in a great, successful villain - something they're short on), but I had 0 misgivings about this being an MCU film or not
And as far as Arad and Pascal and Tolmach are concerned, I definitely can understand people's reservations. However, as much as people wana crucify Arad for the SM3 fiasco, and as much as I absolutely love/praise Sam Raimi, I would not put the blame of Venom's handling on Arad. He pushed for the characters inclusion, yes, but he didn't butcher and fail epically with the execution. I love Raimi to death, and for giving us SM1&2, but that was mostly on him. Now I'm not 'blaming' Raimi, because he was forced to use a character he didn't like/understand/want to, but the sentiment that Avi Arad screwed up Venom the first time around is a little off-base imo