The Amazing Spider-Man How should the Death of Gwen Stacy be approached?

[Chris Wallace]

I told ya we likely agree on more than we don't.

I doubt we're the only ones who see the futility of trying to translate this storyline albeit classic to the big screen. It was a gimmick in the comics and ultimately did nothing to really alter Peter's life, other than removing Gwen from it and replacing her with MJ.

Yeah, but for you to be the ONLY one chiming in on my side of the argument?
It would not only be futile but redundant. Look, we already had a Spider-Man bridge scene, we've already seen his girl kidnapped & threatened-repeatedly, and we already watched Batman grapple with his girl getting killed and being unable to do anything about it. Let's leave it at that. Let's have the hero's love interest (for a change) serve some purpose other than getting into trouble.

 

[chaseter]

I don't know what to call this. I think this is more akin to James Bond. They are just continuing the franchise but with a different cast. They aren't going to bring back already used and dead villains like Bond hasn't. I don't think we are going to see Green Goblin or Doc Ock again anytime soon unless they basically revive them but I think they are staying with the overall continuity but may change a few smaller things. I don't think we are going to see Uncle Ben alive and well and die again amongst other things.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Which would make me laugh. Push a back to high school reboot only to do a loose sequel instead to Raimi's work, LOL!

 

[Immortalfire]

Which would make me laugh. Push a back to high school reboot only to do a loose sequel instead to Raimi's work, LOL!

I'm having memories of Superman Returns

 

[Original Spawn]

Superman returns was actually good, by the it would cool if you added a poll.

 

[aty990]

Lets NOT have her die.Lets have Mary Jane die instead.Thats the way it always should have been.

I think that this had always been a matter of, when not " 'should we let Gwen Stacy's death occur?' " Gwen Stacy's death is essential because Peter Parker blames himself for her death. I have felt that Gwen Stacy's death occurred much too soon in the comics in The Amazing Spider #121, titled "The Night Gwen Stacy Died", and out of the more than six-hundred issues in print. Gwen Stacy's death should had occurred much later for Peter Parker, between issues #250-#300 at the very least. I think that maybe Mary Jane should have only but a cameo in the reboot movie and then a larger part over the course of the trilogy.

 

[TheSlag]

I think that the reboot Green Goblin should look like so.

I think that the idea of Gwen Stacy's death brings an expected insurance that there will not be a straying from the comics. Have Peter Parker blame himself for her death.

Totally agree with the concept, but I want an updated Gothic look costume for the Goblin.

 

[Michael Frost]

How should the Death of Gwen Stacy be approached?

• Introduce Peter/Spidey
• Introduce her
• Introduce Goblin
• Goblin throws Gwen off a bridge and she dies
• ???????
• PROFIT

 

[Chris Wallace]

Superman returns was actually good.

I think you're in the minority on that one.

 

[Original Spawn]

I´m in the minority with the fans, but the critics and other directors loved it.
The only think i didn´t like was the fact that he had a son, the death of gwen stacy shoul appear in the spider-man 3 reboot.

 

[Chris Wallace]

You're in the minority, period. There's a reason why it flopped and the studio hasn't figured out what to do next. As for critics and other directors, (who, by the way, are also a minority in comparison to the general moviegoing public) I remember Ebert's review (the only one I truthfully read) called it "Super Bland".
I still maintain that touching on Gwen's death in any way would be a bad idea, for the reasons I previously stated.

 

[Original Spawn]

Calm down, i only think that superman returns was not that bad, from 1 to 10 i would give it a 5.5, and you´ve got to say, it was much better than superman III and IV.

 

[Chris Wallace]

No, I don't. I actually think it was worse.
Back on topic-I don't know that there are any set rules on how to make a reboot, but I think one of them should definitely be "Do NOT recycle what was done before."

 

[Original Spawn]

I hope we can see gwen´s death one day.
And how can you say that superman returns was worse than superman IV?
Do you have eyes?

 

[NotSoLongAgo]

No, I don't. I actually think it was worse.
Back on topic-I don't know that there are any set rules on how to make a reboot, but I think one of them should definitely be "Do NOT recycle what was done before."

I didn't know Gwen died in 3

 

[Spiderine]

I'm indifferent. I would like to see it only if she is introduced and built up as an important part of Peter's life which means that her death IMO should not happen before the third movie of this new series. However if they are giving us MJ again then seeing her die means nothing.

 

[NotSoLongAgo]

I'm indifferent. I would like to see it only if she is introduced and built up as an important part of Peter's life which means that her death IMO should not happen before the third movie of this new series. However if they are giving us MJ again then seeing her die means nothing.

If they're gonna give us 6 movies in this franchise, then yes seeing Gwen die in the 3rd could be very dramatic as long as she's been shown in the right perspective through Peters life. Something I'd like to see is the "hero failing" part that the citizens and average folks see, as seen in Marvels. Seeing a superhero fail after being so accustomed to seeing him win and beginning to trust them is something I want to see, showing them even starting have doubt, being disappointed, aside from the depression of gwen's death. I mean, it doesn't have to be a bridge. That might be too reminiscent of SM1.

 

[Doctor Who]

it was more like his penis!
and like the comics...and there is no this time cause raimi wasted a bridge scene and didnt have gwen yet...
and it SHOULD happen...cause its one of the most popular things to ever happen to spidey and itd transfer well on screen as a story...

Hey!!!!!! It would be even more tragic if GG raped her and killed her in front of Peter; and the glider thing too. I like the glider with spikes. t:

 

[Chris Wallace]

I didn't know Gwen died in 3

The consensus is that she should die at the Goblin's hands the way she did in the comics. That would be recycling the climax of the first movie. Endangering/kidnapping/threatening Spidey's girl would be recycling what we've seen in Raimi's movies. I don't think they should touch it.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I'm having memories of Superman Returns

Those are bad memories

Superman returns was actually good, by the it would cool if you added a poll.

SR was pretty terrible.

 

[Dragon]

The consensus is that she should die at the Goblin's hands the way she did in the comics. That would be recycling the climax of the first movie. Endangering/kidnapping/threatening Spidey's girl would be recycling what we've seen in Raimi's movies. I don't think they should touch it.

Not to mention that folks are asking for a major recycling in a reboot-
To give us, what- a scene where Peter is really, really, sad.

As if we didn't get that in:
Spidey 1 with the death of Uncle Ben and the death of Harry's father.
Spidey 2 with MJ marrying another man.
Spidey 3- with the death of Harry.

One of the big complaints is seeing Peter crying in 3. And Yet folks are asking for another scene with Peter crying.

 

[Michael Frost]

Recycling the bridge scene and doing it the right way has all my support. Making it a tragic Death of Gwen Stacy adaptation in itself is already making it completly different and alot more accurate to the comics. Is this something that we don't want?!

I don't get this line of thought either. If something was already done in the Raimi Spidey triology, why can't Webb also put it to good use if it's actually part of the character's core?

That's like saying they couldn't have Hulk fight the military in the reboot anymore because Ang Lee's Hulk already did that... Hell, the reboot should have had a grey Hulk just to be different from Ang Lee's version! What a great idea!

 

[SuperFerret]

The main impact, in my eyes, of Gwen's death doesn't come from her being killed by the Goblin, or by Spider-Man failing to save her, or even with her being the first love interest killed like that, but from the ambiguity of whether or not Peter's actions caused her death and if he had done something different to save her that she might have lived.

The bridge is just details that can (and should be changed), the big picture is what matters overall. But that argument typically falls on deaf ears around here.

 

[Chris Wallace]

Not to mention that folks are asking for a major recycling in a reboot-
To give us, what- a scene where Peter is really, really, sad.

As if we didn't get that in:
Spidey 1 with the death of Uncle Ben and the death of Harry's father.
Spidey 2 with MJ marrying another man.
Spidey 3- with the death of Harry.

One of the big complaints is seeing Peter crying in 3. And Yet folks are asking for another scene with Peter crying.

Spidey 3 also had him crying over MJ dumping him and learning about Marko.
But yeah, there seems to be a lot of contradictory wishes here.

 

[Spider-Fan]

The main impact, in my eyes, of Gwen's death doesn't come from her being killed by the Goblin, or by Spider-Man failing to save her, or even with her being the first love interest killed like that, but from the ambiguity of whether or not Peter's actions caused her death and if he had done something different to save her that she might have lived.

The bridge is just details that can (and should be changed), the big picture is what matters overall. But that argument typically falls on deaf ears around here.

I agree that the bridge is not necessarily the place it HAS to happen, and the ambiguity of her death is the core thing to keep in tact. I would like to see it at the hands of the GG though. However, I don't want it to be Gwen dies in the 1st film she appears in. She should be well established and exist for more than to just die.